Your high school bullies must’ve been devastated.You don’t get praise for beating up the disabled kid…
I didn't watch the game and maybe he was excellent but it's still Norway and the whole tournament and his skillset and projectibility right now still has him outside the top 5 for 24 but like for all prospects next season will be extremely important.0+4 vs Norway tonight and player of the game award also.
Kiviharju had one scoring chance in 2nd period but this time puck didn't go in.
Absolutely showed today that why this young man has got so much hype
and why he's for now TOP 2006 born Finnish prospect.
I didn't watch the game and maybe he was excellent but it's still Norway and the whole tournament and his skillset and projectibility right now still has him outside the top 5 for 24 but like for all prospects next season will be extremely important.
I haven't watched alot of the tournament just some here and there but Eiserman certainly isn't getting the feature role due to the nature of the USA lineup and Kiviharju is and take out their best game there is a gap between the 2 forwards and the Dman as far as projection and draftability goes right now.The level difference between Canada & USA vs Czechia and Slovakia is about the same.
USA played against the same teams as Finland.
Kiviharju compares with Eiserman and Celebrini.
It doesn't bother you to compare a player who plays defender in Liiga with attackers in the junior league knowing that defenders generally take longer to develop.I haven't watched alot of the tournament just some here and there but Eiserman certainly isn't getting the feature role due to the nature of the USA lineup and Kiviharju is and take out their best game there is a gap between the 2 forwards and the Dman as far as projection and draftability goes right now.
I would hope so no member of Team USA's defender crop is projected as a first rounder outside of Hutson who is a 2024It doesn't bother you to compare a player who plays defender in Liiga with attackers in the junior league knowing that defenders generally take longer to develop.
Funny to hear people say that Kiviharju isn't progressing as he went from U16 to U20 in record time and only stayed 15 months in the Finnish junior circuit.
He is 3rd in current estimates. Not 25th.
Besides, if Kiviharju was American, he would probably be the team's No. 1 defender leading the game from the back.
Welcome to HIFK Aron.
What will be Kiviharju's role in HIFK SM liiga team.
If he's 7th / 8th / rotation dman who's mainly injury / suspension call up
and main team to play is HIFK a juniors i see that totally wrong route to develop Kiviharju.
Kiviharju is preparing his hockey careers most important season this year.
That means Kiviharju needs lots of icetime and games to get scouted to NHL etc.
IF HIFK cannot give SM liiga minutes so much what Kiviharju needs
and some CHL team drafts him to CHL import draft this summer then
Kiviharju should seriously consider to spent his draft year in CHL. because
that helps him to learn North-American game and being number 1 or number 2
puck-moving dman in winning / competing team.
Lassi Thomson played his draft year in Kelowna Rockets 2018-2019.
And returned to Ilves season 2019-2020 so why you think should
Kiviharju go that route if it comes possible?
HIFK's Defense depth chart 5.6.2023
Melart Kotkansalo
Lepistö Salin
Motin Sund
Kiviharju
Luhanka
Lehmus
Where you see role / fit for Kiviharju?
Do you have a draft ranking you could share for us this year George?Ilari Melart is 34 and past his prime, takes stupid penalties and his game is only going down, last season already was a bit meh
belongs in the 3rd pair in my book
Sami Lepistö is almost 40, no idea who got the idea of bringing him back to Sm-Liiga,
i can't see him get a role from HIFK not for long, he'll eat more popcorn what play games,
HIFK have better players what him.
Kasperi Kotkansalo, why is he ranked as 1st pair D?
Johan Motin is a good veteran defensive d-man, Motin-Melart 3rd pair could be a thing
Kiviharju, Kotkansalo, Salin, Sund would be my top 4 for HIFK
Melart and Motin would make the 3rd pair
Melart was best D last season on IFK. Lepistö was best D scorer on SHL playoffs year ago. Kotkansalo is roulette can be very good or out of lineup. Motin is easily worst D with a puck on this roster and if he fits on lineup its probably because he is right handed.Ilari Melart is 34 and past his prime, takes stupid penalties and his game is only going down, last season already was a bit meh
belongs in the 3rd pair in my book
Sami Lepistö is almost 40, no idea who got the idea of bringing him back to Sm-Liiga,
i can't see him get a role from HIFK not for long, he'll eat more popcorn what play games,
HIFK have better players what him.
Kasperi Kotkansalo, why is he ranked as 1st pair D?
Johan Motin is a good veteran defensive d-man, Motin-Melart 3rd pair could be a thing
Kiviharju, Kotkansalo, Salin, Sund would be my top 4 for HIFK
Melart and Motin would make the 3rd pair
Welcome to HIFK Aron.
What will be Kiviharju's role in HIFK SM liiga team.
If he's 7th / 8th / rotation dman who's mainly injury / suspension call up
and main team to play is HIFK a juniors i see that totally wrong route to develop Kiviharju.
Kiviharju is preparing his hockey careers most important season this year.
That means Kiviharju needs lots of icetime and games to get scouted to NHL etc.
IF HIFK cannot give SM liiga minutes so much what Kiviharju needs
and some CHL team drafts him to CHL import draft this summer then
Kiviharju should seriously consider to spent his draft year in CHL. because
that helps him to learn North-American game and being number 1 or number 2
puck-moving dman in winning / competing team.
Lassi Thomson played his draft year in Kelowna Rockets 2018-2019.
And returned to Ilves season 2019-2020 so why you think should
Kiviharju go that route if it comes possible?
HIFK's Defense depth chart 5.6.2023
Melart Kotkansalo
Lepistö Salin
Motin Sund
Kiviharju
Luhanka
Lehmus
Where you see role / fit for Kiviharju?
Melart was best D last season on IFK. Lepistö was best D scorer on SHL playoffs year ago. Kotkansalo is roulette can be very good or out of lineup. Motin is easily worst D with a puck on this roster and if he fits on lineup its probably because he is right handed.
Salin, Kiviharju and Motin are only right handed defensemen on HIFK roster so Kiviharju will be on opening night roster if there are no more adds to D-core.
my defensemen would be:
Melart-Salin
Lepistö-Kiviharju
Sund-Kotkansalo
Motin
i don't know what a f i was thinking but point is still same = imo he is top 6 but if IFK get one right handed d he will play less minutes.Kotkansalo has not played since November and you think he is going to be on the first pair?
Kiviharju is not right handed though.