Speculation: Larkin trade return

[wingsfannnn9191]

I’m trying to be a patient person but it’s frustrating that we are still speculating on the Larkin trade while other teams are making meaningful trades. This is my nightmare.

But the other players getting traded are for garbage late picks

If we wanted to we can trade Larkin tomorrow to Minnesota for four 1st round picks from 2027 to 2030 …who the hell wants that? If you’re patient enough maybe we can ask 2030-2034 and hope that’s when they shit the bed a few times and we win the lottery …. But who the hell has patience for that?

I got zero interest in Minnesota. We don’t need wallstedt so he’d be flipped … yakov Smirnoff … ya bye … bottom liner stramel? Meh … we couldn’t even flip stramel for a first so I’d rather have a first at that point …. Rather have Brodin I’m sure if we retained 50% some cash strapped team like Edmonton looking to save every $ would give us like a 1st and 2nd + with how desperate they are . Might as well end up with some ridiculous amount of picks

Throw in wallstedt to edm as well we’d get another 2 1sts with how desperate they are

2 1sts + Brodin + wallstedt

Brodin = 1st and a 2nd +
Wallstedt = 2 1sts

Suddenly we got 5 1sts + 2nd + to use …. Anyways I’m just spitballing I know it’s not realistic and they wouldn’t even trade Brodin

Point is Minnesota has nothing I want. I don’t care for four straight late 1sts …. Larkin can cry for all I care if I’m Yzerman there’s a 0% chance he’s going there

 

[ZombosNose]

I would take almost any roster player that can competently play a 3rd line role or above and is below the age of 30 over a pick that might be the ~29th overall pick in 2030.

Oh that's definitely a recipe for success. Let's subtract our only legit 1st line center and stock up on middle six bullshit.

 

[ZombosNose]

I don't want what Ottawa just did, that is crap. One high pick and 3 later picks. How does that improve our team?

How does acquiring middling roster players improve our team?

 

[Oddbob]

How does acquiring middling roster players improve our team?

Who said we want middling roster players for Larkin?

 

[wingsfannnn9191]

Larkin talk. In no rush to deal him. Won’t make a bad deal , nothing we didn’t know. Good

 

[Holden Caufield]

I’m trying to be a patient person but it’s frustrating that we are still speculating on the Larkin trade while other teams are making meaningful trades. This is my nightmare.

Have no fear, Sleepy Steve is at the helm.

 

[dj4aces]

I’m trying to be a patient person but it’s frustrating that we are still speculating on the Larkin trade while other teams are making meaningful trades. This is my nightmare.

I mean... it's frustrating, sure, but Stevie is gonna sit on his asset until he gets the deal he wants. If that means he plays for us this coming season, so be it.

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

Meh, FLA had less need for Larkin than the rest of the bidders. They aren't exactly starved for center depth.

 

[Holden Caufield]

I mean... it's frustrating, sure, but Stevie is gonna sit on his asset until he gets the deal he wants. If that means he plays for us this coming season, so be it.

So he just lets Larkin hijack the franchise as long as that spineless weasel wants ? How can he conduct business and build a roster when the biggest domino is just hanging over everything?

Other players/free agents see this and say ‘no clue what direction that franchise is going’.
We were already an undesirable franchise before all this… but now?

 

[FMichael]

If Larkin was traded for the same package I would jump off a bridge. People around here vastly overrate late 1sts and picks that are 3 years away from even being made. The 9th overall is the only pick that matters in that package.

Yup - it’s why I’d rather have quality roster players coming back our way.

 

[Frk It]

People keep talking about Larkin like he's old for some reason. He's going to be 34. You basically get 5 years of him at what should be his best years. He plays the premium position and is a better player. Brady is more of a unicorn but 2 years vs 5.

I think this is roughly the minimum Detroit will get for Larkin, at some point there's kind ofz a max teams will give up. But Yzerman is likely looking at at least one roster player, or close to the roster player in the Larkin package I would think

The captain of an original 6 team, who is in his hometown and just signed an 8 year deal recently is forcing his way out. There's like 6 or 7 guys in the last year and a half or so who have forced their ways out. Even guys like Rutger McGroarty have felt empowered to force their way out of places they don't feel like playing.

It would be stupid to not take it into consideration, all things considered. This age group/generation coming through the usndpt have some kind of entitlement/NBA vibe. Don't want to stick it out and win where they were drafted, they want to pull a Lebron and make super teams. Horrible look for the league

Some Canadian players have done some less than savory things and I’m not going to hold it against 17 year old kids coming up either, by the same token.

 

[Frk It]

Gotta be honest, If I was a GM, especially on a Canadian team, I would be very leery using any 1st round pick on a US born player, especially as so many doing it in short order will make it a popular thing to do if they aren't happy where they are.

On one hand, it is crazy you have Quinn, Larkin, Tkachuk, Hellebuyck all asking to be moved after the Olympics.

But to then assume kids that are 10 years younger are going to pull the same stunt because of it down the line is a big stretch for me, personally.

You also have guys like Connor and Werenski who seem pretty loyal to their teams, even though they aren’t in ideal situations.

 

[Holden Caufield]

Iginla (6th OA) - 9th OA
Beaudoin (24th OA) - 25th OA
1st rd 26’ (19th OA) - Future 1st + future 2nd

I would do this deal as a template off the Tkachuk deal.
Sell them on the fact they get to keep their 2 prized prospects at premier positions (Desnoyer and Simashev).

Helps us a lot that those prospects have already progressed 2 years post draft and still look great. Plus I think Tij is going to be better then Desnoyer anyways.

 

[dj4aces]

So he just lets Larkin hijack the franchise as long as that spineless weasel wants ? How can he conduct business and build a roster when the biggest domino is just hanging over everything?

Other players/free agents see this and say ‘no clue what direction that franchise is going’.
We were already an undesirable franchise before all this… but now?

The sky, in fact, is not falling. Larkin will get dealt when he gets dealt.

 

[SirloinUB]

On one hand, it is crazy you have Quinn, Larkin, Tkachuk, Hellebuyck all asking to be moved after the Olympics.

But to then assume kids that are 10 years younger are going to pull the same stunt because of it down the line is a big stretch for me, personally.

You also have guys like Connor and Werenski who seem pretty loyal to their teams, even though they aren’t in ideal situations.

I think if you build a competitive team lots of guys are willing to stay.

Tkackuck seemed like he was always intending to leave but Larkin and Hellebuyck gave their organizations a lot of run before getting to this to point.

 

[Waldorf]

I wouldn't slot the Tkachuk/Hughes bros with Larks, Helle, Werenski.

 

[SirloinUB]

At what point do you accept a wallstadt package while subsequently shipping out Cossa and/or Postava for other assets?

 

[Snuggs]

Gotta be honest, If I was a GM, especially on a Canadian team, I would be very leery using any 1st round pick on a US born player, especially as so many doing it in short order will make it a popular thing to do if they aren't happy where they are.

Yeah; Canada could fix there 'tax' issue... People act like it's fake but it's legitimately not. Players playing in Canada get taxed hirer, etc. Anywhere from 10-20 percent more. I get it to an extent. All things equal... why you wanna pay more taxes to live somewhere with higher taxes that's also almost always freezing?


Also; this is getting close to a players collusion case imo. These guys are signed for crying outloud, they play at the olympics and now all want to play together...? Great... idk if NHL contracted players should be allowed to play anymore at things like Olympics/4nations now. They're risking the franchises they play for, legitimately.

Yzerman could do the league a MAJOR favor and just not move Larkin and scratch him. Team is bad, stays bad, but it could stop this NBA attitude of 'trade me' after I already signed/committed.

 

[Waldorf]

At what point do you accept a wallstadt package while subsequently shipping out Cossa and/or Postava for other assets?

I don't think they will trade Wallstedt without having a backup plan in net. Gus is still recovering until November at the earliest.

 

[Euro Twins]

Have no fear, Sleepy Steve is at the helm.

Watch him pull out a banger of a deal and end up with 2 top 6 centers

 

[Winger98]

At what point do you accept a wallstadt package while subsequently shipping out Cossa and/or Postava for other assets?

I wouldn't.

 

[Hen Kolland]

People keep talking about Larkin like he's old for some reason. He's going to be 34. You basically get 5 years of him at what should be his best years. He plays the premium position and is a better player. Brady is more of a unicorn but 2 years vs 5.

I think this is roughly the minimum Detroit will get for Larkin, at some point there's kind ofz a max teams will give up. But Yzerman is likely looking at at least one roster player, or close to the roster player in the Larkin package I would think

The captain of an original 6 team, who is in his hometown and just signed an 8 year deal recently is forcing his way out. There's like 6 or 7 guys in the last year and a half or so who have forced their ways out. Even guys like Rutger McGroarty have felt empowered to force their way out of places they don't feel like playing.

It would be stupid to not take it into consideration, all things considered. This age group/generation coming through the usndpt have some kind of entitlement/NBA vibe. Don't want to stick it out and win where they were drafted, they want to pull a Lebron and make super teams. Horrible look for the league

The players finally caught a loophole on full NTCs. I think we all just collectively witnessed the death of the full NTC as we knew it.

 

[SirloinUB]

I wouldn't.

Are you just not a believer in Wallstadt?

 

[Dotter]

I’d start to get comfortable with 3 picks from Minny and maybe a roster player

Is that roster player Faber, Boldy or Hughes?

 

[ZDH]

Would've been nice to see Larkin handle wanting out like Brady did instead of going the shithead route.