Rumor: Larkin requests trade

[NC Wings Phan]

How anyone can watch Larkins play the last 3 years to end the season and make this about Yzerman is hilarious. Yzerman got the goalie, got a top 4 D at the deadline, Larkin went and played like a stud at the olympics and ghosted down the stretch AGAIN.

This team has a leadership problem, and Larkin requesting a trade might actually be the best thing for them to get back on track. Seider is wearing the C this year and things are gonna get a shake up

As said, Yzerman was screwed from the start having to build around this loser. He was the best of Holland’s disastrous picks perhaps, and had the hometown story angle going for him that sold jerseys in dark years, but he’s been an empty suit and a garbage story built around hopium since day one. Perhaps biggest mistake Yzerman really has made was not trading him earlier, but likely more complicated by ownership than we might realize.

I would’ve moved mountains to trade this clown last year after his public comments about the lack of deadline deals if it was me, but alas…

 

[ZombosNose]

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I doubt that person has ever watched a single Wings game and probably never heard of him until after the gold medal game.

 

[newfy]

I don’t look at a three year window. I look at the entire book of work. Steve has been a f*** up as a DRW GM. Dylan in full Roberto Duran says No Mas.

And what has Larkin been as a captain?

 

[saska sault]

Well with the way this hit the media and how the team boo'ed the team of the ice at the last home game. The final game vs Florida is another one. There is almost no way they bring him back and wait out a trade. The support of Larkin is at an all time low, you can't bring him back unless he somehow makes a statement it is all false.

 

[brentashton]

And what has Larkin been as a captain?

A captain on a shitty team.

 

[schuelma24]

Well with the way this hit the media and how the team boo'ed the team of the ice at the last home game. The final game vs Florida is another one. There is almost no way they bring him back and wait out a trade. The support of Larkin is at an all time low, you can't bring him back unless he somehow makes a statement it is all false.

I kind of think it's almost leverage for Yzerman. If he gets a good offer to say Anaheim or Utah, and the alternative is Yzerman keeps him and he just gets destroyed in the market ... I'm skeptical Larkin has the ... mental fortitude to win a game of chicken.

 

[Frk It]

How anyone can watch Larkins play the last 3 years to end the season and make this about Yzerman is hilarious. Yzerman got the goalie, got a top 4 D at the deadline, Larkin went and played like a stud at the olympics and ghosted down the stretch AGAIN.

This team has a leadership problem, and Larkin requesting a trade might actually be the best thing for them to get back on track. Seider is wearing the C this year and things are gonna get a shake up

If I told you in 2019 that by 2026 Yzerman hasn’t added a single center to this roster that is anywhere close to as good as Larkin, you’d probably say that’s a failure.

And you’d be right.

 

[newfy]

A captain on a shitty team.

Team has been good in the regular season until the last month when the captain has disappeared though

 

[FMichael]

Please Mary mother of god, make this the opportunity to fire Steve, keep Dylan and get this org back on the f***ing road.

We all know that ain't gonna happen...While I respect DBoss and what he has done for this organization you cannot deny that these past 2 late season meltdowns didn't help his image and with this request for a trade (which is certainly his right to do so) we'll likely see most fans siding here with Steve and bidding farewell to Larkin.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

And what has Larkin been as a captain?

Are we really going to blame Larkin? Larkin is not and never will be a yzerman, a zetterberg, a lidstrom. He’s a good but not great player. The roster has been extremely flawed with very obvious issues the whole time he’s been here. He’s not a player to carry a roster and never has been. The issue in Larkins time here has 100% been management, management has either given him shit or extremely mediocre rosters with bad goaltending, and bad coaches. Look at the guy who hired Lalonde and gave him 3 years. Larkin has had his issues as a captain but he’s always been far from the main one. Anyone upset now is just sour grapes. Maybe for me none of this bothers me because it was what I always expected to happen, people are allergic to reality on this board. Larkin is not a guy who will lead you to be a contender, the rest of the roster would have to be catered around him to do that and it’s just never been a very good roster. Our defense outside of Seider has been atrocious Larkins whole career.

 

[brentashton]

Team has been good in the regular season until the last month when the captain has disappeared though

Yzerman has had 7 years to rebuild this shitshow .

But yes let’s blame the futility on the last month and on Larkin.

 

[Frk It]

Are we really going to blame Larkin? Larkin is not and never will be a yzerman, a zetterberg, a lidstrom. He’s a good but not great player. The roster has been extremely flawed with very obvious issues the whole time he’s been here. He’s not a player to carry a roster and never has been. The issue in Larkins time here has 100% been management, management has either given him shit or extremely mediocre rosters with bad goaltending, and bad coaches. Look at the guy who hired Lalonde and gave him 3 years. Larkin has had his issues but he’s always been far from the main one. Anyone upset now is just sour grapes.

The whole point of bringing in Yzerman was to find us something better than Larkin.

A championship core would have required a high end center younger than Larkin.

We have nothing that fits that description.

The fact that the best center on this roster by a mile is a Ken holland draft pick is an indictment on Yzerman, not Larkin.

 

[FMichael]

How anyone can watch Larkins play the last 3 years to end the season and make this about Yzerman is hilarious. Yzerman got the goalie, got a top 4 D at the deadline, Larkin went and played like a stud at the olympics and ghosted down the stretch AGAIN.

This team has a leadership problem, and Larkin requesting a trade might actually be the best thing for them to get back on track. Seider is wearing the C this year and things are gonna get a shake up

100%...

Now what concerns me is what we had seen with Raymond...Played well at the Olympics - was a ghost upon his return - then played well again in the Worlds.

Might this be an unusual coincidence, or moving on from Larkin is really what this team needs?

Since that loss to FLA to cap off a dismal season - myself and @Run the Jewels have been beating the drum of a locker room change...This might alleviate what's been plaguing this team for the past handful of seasons.

 

[FMichael]

Yzerman has had 7 years to rebuild this shitshow .

But yes let’s blame the futility on the last month and on Larkin.

Something within the locker room has been an issue these past handful of seasons...I'm pretty sure both Yzerman and McLellan know what's going on...Moving on from Larkin might be what this team needs (and giving the 'C' to Mo).

 

[brentashton]

Something within the locker room has been an issue these past handful of seasons...I'm pretty sure both Yzerman and McLellan know what's going on...Moving on from Larkin might be what this team needs (and giving the 'C' to Mo).

I do agree. I think the stink in the room comes from the Csuite. Hopefully Chris Illitch takes the steam cleaner to that area first.

 

[LeighDx59]

The blame falls on both Steve Yzerman and Dylan Larkin. Trying to blame just one is ridiculous,

Yzerman hasnt done enough to add actual talent to the game to help Larkin out, but at the same time, the team hasnt played well enough to justify him going from whatever his plan is to be more aggressive. And when they finally did, the prices were way too high to add anyone that would make too much of a difference. Bring up Hughes, but adding Hughes doesnt negate the injuries Detroit had after the deadline or the fact that Detroit still doesnt have an actual 2C. And if Yzerman paid the price just to lose Hughes to free agency? Even worse. People love to crap on Faulk, but he's been a good add and someone we couldve used earlier in the season.

As for Larkin, we've seen him elevate his game for 4 Nations and for the Olympics, but he cant elevate his play to carry his hometown team to the Playoffs?? This season was one thing due to his injury, but he vanished when the schedule got tough the last few seasons. His leadership has be questionable during that time as well. Its too the point that im not even upset he wants to be moved, I just hope he isnt a complete ass and tries to force his way to only or two teams.

And who knows, maybe moving Larkin is the right thing for the locker room, Seider is the real leader of this team.

 

[MBauer]

Undeniable now Yzerman has botched the rebuild.

 

[newfy]

If I told you in 2019 that by 2026 Yzerman hasn’t added a single center to this roster that is anywhere close to as good as Larkin, you’d probably say that’s a failure.

And you’d be right.

I mean ya that is kinda true, but Larkin is a top15-20 center so I dont think that was ever realistic. A legit 2C is more whats missing.

Doesnt change the fact hes the leader thats been disappearing though

 

[Euro Twins]

Met Larkin at a Tin Roof after a wings game years in St. Louis. Larkin was never going to win in Detroit. He needs to be on a team that has set leadership to kick him in the ass and make him work. Failures in March and April prove this.

I get Chris wanted to keep Larkin because he’s a cash cow. Larkin should have been trade in 2021 or before. Yzerman will be hired again because I assume whole league knows Chris wanted to Larkin. Thus handcuffing Yzerman.

So you met larkin at a bar, and he spilled the beans to you that Chris illitxh is keeping larkin around as a cash cow and handcuffing yzerman?

 

[NC Wings Phan]

I don’t look at a three year window. I look at the entire book of work. Steve has been a f*** up as a DRW GM. Dylan in full Roberto Duran says No Mas.

Yeah, his draft picks have been terrible, Mo’s a flop. Give me a break, touch grass, pop a Zyn if that’s your thing. He’s had no luck with the lottery and was dealt a dumpster fire floating in a fiery river of diarrhea of a hand. He’s absolutely made some questionable moves, but to suggest he’s been terrible is ludicrous.

Holland completely imploded as a GM over 10 years from 2009-2019. He completely flopped once having to reconcile the pressures of cap and was caught flat-footed again and again while the team fell into a disastrous of declines, and somehow managed to draft the softest bunch of garbage players assembled in 1st round picks as one could imagine in the darkest timeline.

Holland left Yzerman with a steaming diaper filled with parasite-ridden Indian food of a team in 2019.

Yzerman has had to manage a rebuild with no lottery luck and a sub-minimum viable trash group of players/assets/chips from day one and a 10-ply “captain” with a lowercase “c” that loves to cry to Helene.

The two best opportunities we had to get over the hump and start building a successful culture though, the super soft 10-ply “captain” disappeared when it mattered most and had the audacity to whine to the media about it and point fingers.

Maybe start your book club reflection there.

*spits

 

[newfy]

Yzerman has had 7 years to rebuild this shitshow .

But yes let’s blame the futility on the last month and on Larkin.

3 years now theyve had ridiculous collapses were theyve shit the bed down the stretch. Yzerman built a team good enough to be first place after 50 games, then the players disappeared down the stretch AGAIN

 

[schuelma24]

I think Prashanth did a good job encapsulating where I'm at - he thinks actually contending with Larkin was unlikely, and this is an opportunity to reset around Mo and Ray - but it also really sucks and is going to require more patience.

Dylan Larkin Requests A Trade - My Initial Thoughts

Today, Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman reported that Red Wings’ captain Dylan Larkin has requested a trade.

prashanthiyer.substack.com

 

[brentashton]

Yeah, his draft picks have been terrible, Mo’s a flop. Give me a break, touch grass, pop a Zyn if that’s your thing. He’s had no luck with the lottery and was dealt a dumpster fire floating in a fiery river of diarrhea of a hand. He’s absolutely made some questionable moves, but to suggest he’s been terrible is ludicrous.

Holland completely imploded as a GM over 10 years from 2009-2019. He completely flopped once having to reconcile the pressures of cap and was caught flat-footed again and again while the team fell into a disastrous of declines, and somehow managed to draft the softest bunch of garbage players assembled in 1st round picks as one could imagine in the darkest timeline.

Holland left Yzerman with a steaming diaper filled with parasite-ridden Indian food of a team in 2019.

Yzerman has had to manage a rebuild with no lottery luck and a sub-minimum viable trash group of players/assets/chips from day one and a 10-ply “captain” with a lowercase “c” that loves to cry to Helene.

The two best opportunities we had to get over the hump and start building a successful culture though, the super soft 10-ply “captain” disappeared when it mattered most and had the audacity to whine to the media about it and point fingers.

Maybe start your book club reflection there.

*spits

After 7 years it’s still Ken’s fault. Ok Mrs Yzerman.

*spits also

 

[FMichael]

Yeah, his draft picks have been terrible, Mo’s a flop. Give me a break, touch grass, pop a Zyn if that’s your thing. He’s had no luck with the lottery and was dealt a dumpster fire floating in a fiery river of diarrhea of a hand. He’s absolutely made some questionable moves, but to suggest he’s been terrible is ludicrous.

Holland completely imploded as a GM over 10 years from 2009-2019. He completely flopped once having to reconcile the pressures of cap and was caught flat-footed again and again while the team fell into a disastrous of declines, and somehow managed to draft the softest bunch of garbage players assembled in 1st round picks as one could imagine in the darkest timeline.

Holland left Yzerman with a steaming diaper filled with parasite-ridden Indian food of a team in 2019.

Yzerman has had to manage a rebuild with no lottery luck and a sub-minimum viable trash group of players/assets/chips from day one and a 10-ply “captain” with a lowercase “c” that loves to cry to Helene.

The two best opportunities we had to get over the hump and start building a successful culture though, the super soft 10-ply “captain” disappeared when it mattered most and had the audacity to whine to the media about it and point fingers.

Maybe start your book club reflection there.

*spits

I like the cut of your jib...

 

[Frk It]

I mean ya that is kinda true, but Larkin is a top15-20 center so I dont think that was ever realistic. A legit 2C is more whats missing.

Doesnt change the fact hes the leader thats been disappearing though

Yeah I mean that’s not to say Larkin hasn’t absolutely been lackluster down the stretch the last few years.

I just think ideally Larkin was never supposed to be the #1C for this rebuild. I would have thought Yzerman would have brought in at least another guy on that same level by now and we’d have a 1a/1b situation.

The over-reliance we had on our top 3-4 forwards last year was pretty jarring.