Confirmed with Link: Lane Lambert Named Head Coach

[PK Cronin]

More like Lame Lambert, am I right?!

 

[doublechili]

I'm not calling Trotz a god...Just pretty much the best coach for this lineup given the lack of scoring we have.

Perhaps, just perhaps, there's a connection between Trotz' coaching and the lack of scoring.

Not sure if that would be causation, correlation or coincidence though.

[Seriously, I do think it was partly Trotz' system (including his sometimes interesting line combo choices), and partly personnel, including (especially?) the scarcity of puck-movers on D]

 

[Rehabguy]

Really respect this post. Don't have the energy to hit on all, but a few:

-The Leafs currently have a lot of talent, but really not a D or G...And they're horribly constructed in terms of their mental make up. Matthews is leaving as soon as he's a UFA, Marner is a punk, Tavares is as much of a leader as a loaf of bread, and that's their core with not other real vets/leaders to step up.
-And the Leafs talent/roster make up now doesn't hold a candle to teams like the Blackhawks that Quenneville had the privilege of coaching. Not a direct comparison at all.
-And I agree and said it many times...That if you have Trotz coaching your team you're never going to be drafting in the top 5 where the elite talent is so you might be on a big of a "progress treadmill" wit your team. That said, maybe Lou hired Lambert so we can get a top pick a few years in a row.
-Also not sure where you're getting your information from, but the Capitals WON their 1st round playoff matchup their 1st 3 years with Trotz before winning the Cup in year 4.
-I'm not calling Trotz a god...Just pretty much the best coach for this lineup given the lack of scoring we have. Of course I'm going to let this offseason play out, but no matter what Lou does 80% of the team is coming back and I don't see a path where he (with Lambert coaching) can improve upon the success Trotz had. Of course I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not as big of a fan of Lou as many here.
-To that point...If Holmstrom, Wahlstrom, and Bellows are all in the opening night lineup that most likely means Lou failed this offseason.

We have to also recall when BT inherited the Isles they had just lost their #1 center and top points getter as well. Best coach is an understatement.

 

[periferal]

On your last point, I see Bailey, Beau out the door with hopefully Gaudreau as the FA, Bailey as a cap dump and Beau in a package for the 2nd LD, which is why I see all three.

In an ideal world, I would have Gaudreau driving Lee and Nelson, which is what I think Lou had in mind for Panarin. That leaves Barzal with Palmieri and (here is the most controversial prediction) Holmstrom playing on LW, so Barzal is freed up with Holmstrom playing third man high. I'll get plenty of push back but Holmstrom reminds me A LOT of Pat Flatley and he played that role for Lafontaine too.

Then you can play Bellows and Wahlstrom with Pageau and we play Parise with CC and CC and just let the lines get used to each other.

This allows Parise to move up if necessary to Barzal. Their chemistry late in the season was not a mirage. But I think next season is about transition to a younger group and take the lumps if needed. Lou saying "the room needs to hear a new voice" is to me code for "Barry does not have in his DNA the ability to take a step back to take two steps forward".

To me, it's about making a run in 2023-24, not next year.

But to me you need to sign more vets like Parise opposed to gifting playing time to younger kids like Bellows, Wahlstrom, and Holmstrom who haven't earned it and aren't as good. We already know Bellows isn't it, but if Wahlstrom/Holmstrom take big steps this offseason god bless, but I'm not counting on them for anything but growing pains (or worse).

And if Lou adds an 8M+ player (like Gadreau, Forsberg, etc) and then a quality LHD...Even when dumping Beau and Bailey you're going to be right up against the cap both in 22-23 and 23-24 (when Barzal, Mayfield, Wahlstrom, a backup to Sorokin, and more D-men will need to be signed). And the core will be even older (and the 4th line probably dust).

So I don't see how 23-24 is going to be any different than the team Lou trots out there this fall for 22-23. If we're not a contender this season (which is insanely unlikely all things considered), then I don't see how the summer of 23 is going to change much.

 

[Richie Daggers Crime]

Do you think this why they shit on me too?

Snow thought he was the smartest guy in the room as well.

 

[periferal]

Perhaps, just perhaps, there's a connection between Trotz' coaching and the lack of scoring.

Not sure if that would be causation, correlation or coincidence though.

[Seriously, I do think it was partly Trotz' system (including his sometimes interesting line combo choices), and partly personnel, including (especially?) the scarcity of puck-movers on D]

Well I am confident there's a connection between Trotz' coaching and the amount of winning we were doing 3 of the last 4 seasons.

Even when the Weight/Capuano teams scored more we didn't even make the playoffs.

...And Trotz's Capitals teams had no problem scoring and they won a Cup.

Yet this franchise has been searching for a true 1st line winger since Ziggy Palffy. Consider that and the fact that if we had someone like Filip Forsberg playing with Barzal in the playoffs 2 years ago, as opposed to Leo frickin' Komarov, we might be Cup champions now.

 

[CupHolders]

More like Lame Lambert, am I right?!

No it’s Lame Lamebert! You gotta fully commit and get that second Lame in there.

I can only assume you are referencing the mainboard thread where I saw that recycled unwittingly.

 

[CupHolders]

Perhaps, just perhaps, there's a connection between Trotz' coaching and the lack of scoring.

Not sure if that would be causation, correlation or coincidence though.

[Seriously, I do think it was partly Trotz' system (including his sometimes interesting line combo choices), and partly personnel, including (especially?) the scarcity of puck-movers on D]

Causation, correlation or coincidence…

Rebuild, retool or refresh…

Bunch of Alliterative Aho’s on this board!

 

[leeroggy]

But to me you need to sign more vets like Parise opposed to gifting playing time to younger kids like Bellows, Wahlstrom, and Holmstrom who haven't earned it and aren't as good. We already know Bellows isn't it, but if Wahlstrom/Holmstrom take big steps this offseason god bless, but I'm not counting on them for anything but growing pains (or worse).

And if Lou adds an 8M+ player (like Gadreau, Forsberg, etc) and then a quality LHD...Even when dumping Beau and Bailey you're going to be right up against the cap both in 22-23 and 23-24 (when Barzal, Mayfield, Wahlstrom, a backup to Sorokin, and more D-men will need to be signed). And the core will be even older (and the 4th line probably dust).

So I don't see how 23-24 is going to be any different than the team Lou trots out there this fall for 22-23. If we're not a contender this season (which is insanely unlikely all things considered), then I don't see how the summer of 23 is going to change much.

Well, my friend, that's TBD

Either way, we'll see a lot of effort this offseason and I suspect we'll see one big surprise!

But first, the NCAA Lax tourney and the PLL to take up my time until the Draft and FA.

Causation, correlation or coincidence…

Rebuild, retool or refresh…

Bunch of Alliterative Aho’s on this board!

A 3rd Aho! Let's hope he's named Stanley to make it easier.

 

[Lame Lambert]

More like Lame Lambert, am I right?!

New name who dis

 

[CupHolders]

New name who dis

I dunno, but @Tater Trotz is gonna be pissed didn’t think about it!

 

[PK Cronin]

No it’s Lame Lamebert! You gotta fully commit and get that second Lame in there.

I can only assume you are referencing the mainboard thread where I saw that recycled unwittingly.

Nah, I came up with that gem all on my own.

 

[Top Corner]

If this lineup is not 20 to 25% different , it won’t matter who the coach is. The first few years of the new regime, what was really evident was how well they controlled the puck in their zone and exits were effortless. Going to 3 on 3 OT , it was like a guaranteed extra point but as the began to lose their D, things didn’t look as easy as the first few years and 3 on 3 OT was a hope to get to shootouts. Some speed and mobility needs to find its way back into the D and from there look to sprinkle a little upfront. No changes will make us a lottery team real quick into 2022/23

 

[The Real JT]

Lambert legitimately looks like an old school mob boss.

I was thinking maybe a villain in a Bond film.

 

[Richie Daggers Crime]

If this lineup is not 20 to 25% different , it won’t matter who the coach is.

What if it's 18% different? No good?

People just making stuff up.

 

[Mr Misunderstood]

New name who dis

Can't wait until the Isles having a middling start and your new name will be Blame Lambert

 

[beach]

Can't wait until the Isles having a middling start and we your new name will be Blame Lambert

If The Isles win the Cup, he'll be Fame Lambert; else if their record doesn't improve, he'll be Same Lambert; and if the Isles don't play with an edge, he'll be Tame Lambert.

 

[JJ18Sniper]

Trotz interviewing with Philly today kind of changed a lot to the speculation and narrative. That would suck for us.

I'm expecting one of Sanheim, Provorov or Ristolainen to become all-stars if Trotz goes to Philly.

 

[Rehabguy]

Snow thought he was the smartest guy in the room as well.

Well, like I said before I was rudely and involuntarily quieted. Sometimes you just have to call a spade a spade.

But seriously folks. This is the best option, and I'm willing to concede that there might have something like a communications issue between BT and the players that Lou felt it was time for a coaching change. I think to a player, including Barzal and the other young players, they all had great respect for BT as a coach, his hockey system, and as a person but if there was a communication issue and it wasn't being addressed there's a possibility that this respect could turn into loathing and Lou might have thought it was time to act. There were two ways to handle this issue. Have the team work together to resolve the issue and that means both parties being open to change, or change the coach. This was Lou's decision and if it was an ill advised one he takes the blame.

 

[LeapOnOver]

And that could viewed as either a good thing or a bad thing. If we are last in our division by mid season next year I think most of us would have preferred he knew Trotz system a bit better. It’s also what a few of us find unsettling and could have been avoided if someone didn’t appear like he was just shooting from the hip.

So right now I’m proceeding with caution.

Okay that's fine, and I'm glad you've gone from jabbering nonsensically to proceeding with caution after a few days. There are a lot of ifs, but you said yourself LL centers on results. If Lane bombs he might have a short span behind the bench.

 

[LeapOnOver]

What if it's 18% different? No good?

People just making stuff up.

Guess you aren't up to speed on the newly added "Roster Change Coefficiency Variable W% Dynamic" they've recently added to the analytics formulas.

 

[The Real JT]

Is there any truth to the rumors regarding our new coach’s distant relatives Willem Dafoe and Richard Kiel (Jaws)?

 

[Glory Days]

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Is there any truth to the rumors regarding our new coach’s distant relatives Willem Dafoe and Richard Kiel (Jaws)?

Based on what I’ve read in this thread I think some posters might like Dafoe or Kiel as better options for coach

 

[CupHolders]

Based on what I’ve read in this thread I think some posters might like Dafoe or Kiel as better options for coach

...and Dr. Evil with Mini Me in place of the Lamoriello's

 

[BelovedIsles]

Must say, a little disappointed that Trotz is already interviewing. So he’s probably not stepping away.