Player Discussion Lane Hutson Part 2

[LaP]

Newhook?

Intentional omission? I think he might get squeezed out at some point.

No it was not intentional i just forgot him.

 

[jrom]

I disagree. Lately I've noticed he's been flying, which is why I went on NHL edge. They're objective measurements, it doesn't rely on the eye test, but on the actual numbers. Not only do they say he's fast, but they also say he's actually elite.

He's very effective at burst of speeds and mobility but he won't catch a good skater on a breakaway. For the number of times it happens in an actual game, it's not a real issue. The skating element for his style of play (burst of speed) is top notch.

 

[Shutdown]

This doesn’t make sense to me. Lane Hutson isn’t that fast a skater. He’s great at turning on a dime but he’s not what I’d call fast.

not many players get to carry the puck the length of the ice, so he gets to pick up speed on a much more regular basis than most. he also keeps his range of motion pretty tight, in that he doesn't steer east-west too much when he goes up the ice. his rushes are contained to tighter spaces because of his quick hands and headfakes.

 

[Wateredgarden]

He's making me realize that no Habs were even close to being good since Kovalev.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

He's making me realize that no Habs were even close to being good since Kovalev.

I prefer Suzuki over kovy (Habs). Sure kovy when he's on was top 10 in the league easy. But I'll take the guy who shows up almost all the time, plays a complete game and is easy to play with

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Now that we have recorded measurements like this, we don't have to rely on the eye test anymore. Subjective opinions aren't required when we data that demonstrates that he is indeed fast.

I've seen him lose quite a few footraces.

I'm not saying the guy's slow but I wouldn't call him fast either. I'd say he's really, really shifty on his skates.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I prefer Suzuki over kovy (Habs). Sure kovy when he's on was top 10 in the league easy. But I'll take the guy who shows up almost all the time, plays a complete game and is easy to play with

Carey Price
PK Subban
Kovalev/Markov
Paccioretty

That's how I'd rank it from the old regime.

Going forward, I'd say Hutson will actually be better than PK Subban. That is saying a lot as Subban was at his peak a top three blueliner in the game. I don't think he'll reach Price's peak but he will likely have a better career than either one of those players as long as he can stay healthy. He will also (hopefully) have a shot at some cups.

As for Suzuki, I'm not sure where I'd put him. He's ahead of Max for sure. Better than Kovalev? Offensively I don't think so. Defensively he's definitely better. Markov was pretty great too.

I still think Caufield has a good chance of surpassing Suzuki. But he'll have to hit on 50 goals consistently. A pretty tall order. It'll be interesting to look back on this ten years from now and see who's where. Hutson has a shot at being our best and then there's Demidov.

 

[JianYang]

Leafs fan, he can't help himself.

Is this the guy that thinks he's some advanced stat wizard who concluded Suzuki has one of the worst contracts?

 

[JianYang]

I've seen him lose quite a few footraces.

I'm not saying the guy's slow but I wouldn't call him fast either. I'd say he's really, really shifty on his skates.

I used to think the same but I also see him beat guys on the outside with net drive. So he's got good speed at least for certain instances.... I think the nhl stats also show his top speeds are higher than Quinn Hughes.

 

[Kennedys]

 

[McGuires Corndog]

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Lane plays more than all of them at EV? Wow.

I wouldn’t have thought that without digging in, that’s impressive.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

I knew he would be a good one down the line but to think he would be second in Ice time on the team all while defending at a high level in his first year is crazy to me , my pesimistic heart wouldn't have believed you.


You'd think it was the AHL or something with how easy he makes it look , this is the highest level of hockey in the world correct? You can't tell when this 20 year old has the puck on his stick

 

[Rapala]

Lane plays more than all of them at EV? Wow.

I wouldn’t have thought that without digging in, that’s impressive.

It's the most outstanding and mind boggling aspect of this player's debut in the NHL.
His powers of recuperation are off the charts. I remember two seasons ago when we started all those rookie Dmen.
They ALL hit a wall before game 40 with far less ice time and except for Guhle much softer match ups.

 

[ReimanSum1908]

I've seen him lose quite a few footraces.

I'm not saying the guy's slow but I wouldn't call him fast either. I'd say he's really, really shifty on his skates.

Exactly; there's a great deal of equivocation going on when discussing his skating and defining it as "good" or "poor" in quality. There are certain aspects to his skating that are exceptional, and others, like acceleration, it seems, that are average at best.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Exactly; there's a great deal of equivocation going on when discussing his skating and defining it as "good" or "poor" in quality. There are certain aspects to his skating that are exceptional, and others, like acceleration, it seems, that are average at best.

A guy who’s 6’4 is going to have bigger strides than a smaller player. It’s just physics providing an advantage.

The numbers that are posted here just don’t jive with what I’ve seen. I don’t consider Hutson a speedster. I think he’s very, very shifty and great at turning on a dime but top speed I don’t see as a strength.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

I know this is OT, but since @Skip Bayless posted a lot in this thread, I thought I'd ask this here:

So Skip... you gonna change your username now? Should rename yourself Skip won't Payless? just kidding

 

[Matthew McConaughay]

This doesn’t make sense to me. Lane Hutson isn’t that fast a skater. He’s great at turning on a dime but he’s not what I’d call fast.

The numbers speaks by themselves buddy, stop denying he's an above avg skater.

I prefer Suzuki over kovy (Habs). Sure kovy when he's on was top 10 in the league easy. But I'll take the guy who shows up almost all the time, plays a complete game and is easy to play with

So you will love Demidov

 

[crosbyshow]

Awesome French article about Hutson.

The best on yet.

Hutson..a concession player?

Read this if tou can read French:

Et si Lane Hutson était un joueur de concession ?

Tous les clubs en reconstruction s’accrochent à l’espoir de gagner la loterie pour repêcher une super étoile. Le Canadien n’y fait pas exception. C’était son souhait lorsqu’il occupait les bas-fonds du circuit entre 2022 et 2024. Mais si plutôt que de trouver son futur joueur de concession au...

www.lapresse.ca

 

[JeffreyLFC]

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But I heard he was a gadget player...

 

[Sasha Orlov]

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Cool stat, unfortunately he sucks still

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

The numbers speaks by themselves buddy, stop denying he's an above avg skater.

I think he's an awesome skater. Speed wise I don't think he's as fast as he's being made out to be. Those numbers just don't jive with what I've seen.

 

[Gustave]

But I heard he was a gadget player...

Who said that? I believe you, and I want names

 

[JIMVINNY]

I think he's an awesome skater. Speed wise I don't think he's as fast as he's being made out to be. Those numbers just don't jive with what I've seen.

No offense, but "what you've seen" doesn't really mean anything. He might not be the fastest straight line player in the league, but he's obviously not slow either, and has more bursts of speed than the vast majority of NHL defensemen.

Your subjective opinion, once invalidated by data, should be subject to revision. That it hasn't is a reflection on you, not on Hutson.

 

[The Great Weal]

I'm mostly impressed with how quickly he's adapted his game. After his start, I think he struggled a bit given how the other team's forecheckers were able to contain him a bit. They are back to struggling against him now.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

But I heard he was a gadget player...

More like Mr. Gadget

I'm mostly impressed with how quickly he's adapted his game. After his start, I think he struggled a bit given how the other team's forecheckers were able to contain him a bit. They are back to struggling against him now.

It’s that IQ , he’s able to adapt and implement changes very very quickly.

Who said that? I believe you, and I want names

Wasn’t it Snake Boisvert?

He’s pretty much the king of hot takes