Player Discussion Lane Hutson Part 2

[BLONG7]

The Habs do have a roster that can cause some damage. Especially if our team D and goaltending continues. If that part continues to be stable, we have game breakers to win tight games. Team confidence and momentum is a major factor. Habs are heating up at the right time.

Facing the Leafs in the 1st round and knocking them out (again) would make my life difficult with several of my friends who are Leafs fan. I had a good friend of mine who didn't talk to me for over a month haha. He almost started to cry and said he has been waiting for a cup his whole life and the Habs might win another one before his Leafs do

I had many friends, who were leaf fans, who so badly wanted a habs/leafs first round, and I cautioned them, to be careful what you wish for...............CP31 did the rest. Wonderful finish to a 7 game series.

Don't forget Dobes and Carrier.

I don't think anyone is being gullible. The team is playing well. I know winning feels weird.

Thinking we are..........where HuGo was hoping we would be........in the mix.
Still have to play well yet, 42 games left........
If it goes well, do we become buyers??

 

[LaP]

I tend to agree. Mesar is lacking physical strength. His skill, vision, and skating is very good. Can he figure out the maturity and add some muscle? Not sure but his time is not over yet.

Mesar with a dynamic center and a powerforward RW yields better results than you might expect.

I won't hold my breath but there is still some hope with this kid

I think Mesar's future like Mailloux will be with another team. I expect them to be traded at some point. I tink they'll both be valuable enough to get good vets for them to help the team compete. They'll return more than Barron imo specially Mesar if he has a good year in the AHL.

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Laine? - Dach? - Demidov
Heineman - Beck - Vet?
Anderson - Xhekaj - Gallagher

If Dach doesn't work Hage will eventually replace him or we'll try to acquire a vet. If Laine doesn't work out Dach could evetually be moved to wing to repace him. When Gallagher's and Anderson's contract will end one will likely be replaced by another vet and the other maybe by Tuch or Davidson. I don't see a spot for Mesar tbh. And i did not even consider us signing Evans because i'm really not sure we will if KH believes in Back.

Hutson - vet?
Guhle - Reinbacher
Xhekaj - Engstrom

Again i don't see any spot for Mailloux unless he develops very well and Reinbacher doesn't.

 

[Goalfield13]

I had many friends, who were leaf fans, who so badly wanted a habs/leafs first round, and I cautioned them, to be careful what you wish for...............CP31 did the rest. Wonderful finish to a 7 game series.


Thinking we are..........where HuGo was hoping we would be........in the mix.
Still have to play well yet, 42 games left........
If it goes well, do we become buyers??

All you guys talking about leaf friends. I work in the GTA and don't give a damn. Eff the leafs. Eff their fans. Eff their feelings.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Don't forget Dobes and Carrier.

I don't think anyone is being gullible. The team is playing well. I know winning feels weird.

We are all Doped up and getting Carriered out of the way eh?

I had many friends, who were leaf fans, who so badly wanted a habs/leafs first round, and I cautioned them, to be careful what you wish for...............CP31 did the rest. Wonderful finish to a 7 game series.

Yeah, something I will never forget. What an epic run out of nowhere.

To be honest, I guessed a Leafs/Oilers final last year and maybe I was a year early. I calling it again this year.

 

[LaP]

Even the Panthers are not as gritty as they were last season. Still an effective team but not as scary as before IMO.

Maybe we are getting a bit gullible on the Habs expectations but it's not impossible they continue to play well. You have to assume better 2nd halfs from Slaf, Dach, & Newhook and Laine was only getting started

It's all connected to team D and sound goaltending. All the momentum and confidence comes from this

A good GM will not change his expectation or plan because of a good or bad sequence. Fans will but a good GM must be able to evaluate his team on paper and not be too much influenced by what ponctually happens on the ice.

I firmly believe KH's and Gorton's evaluation of the team is IN DA MIXTM and i don't think they'll change it. A team that can compete but can't win it all. They'll keep managing in fonction of the next 3 to 5 years and not this year only.

 

[Habs Halifax]

A good GM will not change his expectation or plan because of a good or bad sequence. Fans will but a good GM must be able to evaluate his team on paper and not be too much influenced by what ponctually happens on the ice.

I firmly believe KH's and Gorton's evaluation of the team is IN DA MIXTM and i don't think they'll change it. A team that can compete but can't win it all. They'll keep managing in fonction of the next 3 to 5 years and not this year only.

Totally agree but at the same time, they might not sell as much this deadline because the offers are meh and only adds more B type prospects.

I think Gorton/Hughes want success in Laval and will avoid depleting that roster by trading vets and calling up guys. I am pretty sure MSL was not happy about the Monahan trade last year but understood in the end.

All we are talking about is if the Habs sneak in with what we have now. That is just a bonus but doesn't change our long term goal.

 

[schwang26]

It’s a crime if he doesn’t win the Calder. Playing those minutes as an undersized defenceman and putting up enough points to (so far) lead all rookies? And they think Michkov is the front runner? Wow.

 

[Don D]

Thank You once again, Edmonton and Brett Kulak for the gift you gave the Habs on March 21, 2022.
Bonus: at the last World Jrs, Rasmus Bergqvist (also obtained in that trade) did quite well. Rasmus remains a longshot, but still, nice to see!

 

[Redux91]

So as far as 2022 Draft players are concerned
Here's where Lane's 32 career points clock in..

1- Slaf 82 pts (1st Overall)
2- Cooley 78 pts (3rd Overall)
3- Mintyukov 36 pts (10th Overall)
4- Hutson 32 pts (62nd Overall)

That's scary lol

Highest D's Drafted That year
2nd Overall - Simon Nimec , 20 pts
6th Overall - David Jiricek , 11 pts
7th Overall - Kevin Korchinksi , 15 pts
12th Overall - Denton Mateychuk, 1 pt
18th Overall - Lian Bichsel , 2 pts
21st Overall - Owen Pickering , 2 pts
25th Overall - Sam Rinzel, N/A
29th Overall - Maveric Lamoureux, 3 pts
36th Overall - Artyom Duda, N/A
37th Overall - Ryan Chesley, N/A
42nd Overall - Noah Warren , N/A
45th Overall - Mattias Havelid , N/A
46th Overall - Seamus Casey , 4 pts
50th Overall - Christian Kyrou , N/A
53th Overall - Tristan Luneau, 3 pts
55th Overall - Elias Salomonsson , N/A

He's also outpointing most of the 2021 First round D's too lol..

 

[Archijerej]

He probably makes the team out of camp next year ahead of mai-mai.

After his injury? I'm pretty sure he'll start in the AHL.

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

It’s a crime if he doesn’t win the Calder. Playing those minutes as an undersized defenceman and putting up enough points to (so far) lead all rookies? And they think Michkov is the front runner? Wow.

Michkov is 3rd, Celebrini is currently the front runner as per many.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Michkov is 3rd, Celebrini is currently the front runner as per many.

Celebrini has been awesome. No shame if Hutson comes second to him.

 

[LaP]

So as far as 2022 Draft players are concerned
Here's where Lane's 32 career points clock in..

1- Slaf 82 pts (1st Overall)
2- Cooley 78 pts (3rd Overall)
3- Mintyukov 36 pts (10th Overall)
4- Hutson 32 pts (62nd Overall)

That's scary lol

Highest D's Drafted That year
2nd Overall - Simon Nimec , 20 pts
6th Overall - David Jiricek , 11 pts
7th Overall - Kevin Korchinksi , 15 pts
12th Overall - Denton Mateychuk, 1 pt
18th Overall - Lian Bichsel , 2 pts
21st Overall - Owen Pickering , 2 pts
25th Overall - Sam Rinzel, N/A
29th Overall - Maveric Lamoureux, 3 pts
36th Overall - Artyom Duda, N/A
37th Overall - Ryan Chesley, N/A
42nd Overall - Noah Warren , N/A
45th Overall - Mattias Havelid , N/A
46th Overall - Seamus Casey , 4 pts
50th Overall - Christian Kyrou , N/A
53th Overall - Tristan Luneau, 3 pts
55th Overall - Elias Salomonsson , N/A

He's also outpointing most of the 2021 First round D's too lol..

Every time i see Owen Pickering's name i can help but think about Ronnie Pickering.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

I just saw a post from him where, I kid you not, he ranked Hutson below Jonathan Kovacevic.

Again, I am not making this is up, this is something he actually said.

He said if Hutson were on the Devils, he would be their #6 defenseman.

In the same post - and again, I am not joking, this is directly what he said - he ranked the following defenseman ahead of Hutson:

Romanov, Ristalainen, Provorov, Gostisbhere, Burns, Van Riemsdyk, Sandin.

You can't make this shit up. This guy expects us to believe he's not trolling and he truly thinks that Rasmus Sandin and Jonathan Kovacevici, among others, would slot in ahead of Hutson. This is guy who speaks atuthroatively on Hutson, but that's his take.

I think there's a pretty good chance he got kicked in the head by a mule as a child.

He’s still saying Hutson wouldn’t crack the Devils lineup lmao

I’ve never seen someone struggle so hard to cope in all my years on here

 

[Ozmodiar]

Was he though?

I mean, if you think you can get Hutson in the 2nd round, why wouldn't you draft Beck earlier and get Hutson later?

I do this in my fantasy drafts all the time. It doesn't always pan out (this year I missed Caufield by two picks) but it usually does. I drafted Hutson in my pool in the very late stages. I felt he could be really good and drafted inferior players ahead of him because I knew he'd be around. I think the same principle applies here.

If the guy's 5'7, you probably know he's not going to be drafted until later. Why wouldn't you take advantage of that and take Beck for now and Hutson later?

Is this the real life, or is this just fantasy?

… but I’ll go along …

Let’s say Beck went where he was supposed to based on the Habs’ list (33rd, same as Bob’s list). If the Habs had Hutson valued ahead of Beck (as a 1st rd pick), but chose to wait until 62, it means they were hoping that 28 teams would pass on a player with a first round grade, in the 2nd round.

That’s a big gamble to take - if it doesn’t work out they’ve lost a 1st round pick, in their eyes.

I see your thinking, in theory, where you have 2 picks a few spots apart. You could flip the order based on the needs of the teams picking between … then hope they don’t make a trade. But 28 teams? No.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Is this the real life, or is this just fantasy?

… but I’ll go along …

Let’s say Beck went where he was supposed to based on the Habs’ list (33rd, same as Bob’s list). If the Habs had Hutson valued ahead of Beck (as a 1st rd pick), but chose to wait until 62, it means they were hoping that 28 teams would pass on a player with a first round grade, in the 2nd round.

That’s a big gamble to take - if it doesn’t work out they’ve lost a 1st round pick, in their eyes.

I see your thinking, in theory, where you have 2 picks a few spots apart. You could flip the order based on the needs of the teams picking between … then hope they don’t make a trade. But 28 teams? No.

They obviously knew what they were doing though. It’s easy now to sit here and second guess everyone else now that Hutson’s a star. But he was a 5’7 gamble. The Habs had to be thinking that he’d get passed over- which he did.

 

[1909]

They obviously knew what they were doing though. It’s easy now to sit here and second guess everyone else now that Hutson’s a star. But he was a 5’7 gamble. The Habs had to be thinking that he’d get passed over- which he did.

Beck could had been selected instead of Mesar, and Hutson as pick #33.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

He probably makes the team out of camp next year ahead of mai-mai.

Not impossible. I doubt he needs more than a year in Laval

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Beck could had been selected instead of Mesar, and Hutson as pick #33.

Hutson could’ve been picked at number one.

Obviously they valued Mesar and felt they could still get Hutson. They were right.

Don’t forget that Hutson wasn’t close to a sure thing at that height. If he was, he’d have been round one.

 

[1909]

Hutson could’ve been picked at number one.

Obviously they valued Mesar and felt they could still get Hutson. They were right.

Don’t forget that Hutson wasn’t close to a sure thing at that height. If he was, he’d have been round one.

No. They were just plain lucky he was still there. Like Caufield few years before. Lack of size was the main reason in both cases. As for Mesar, I will never understand what they saw in him that as so special.

 

[badfish]

This guy from the Athletic has Lane Hutson in 4th for the Calder.

NHL awards watch: Leon Draisaitl leads a fascinating MVP field

Puts him there cause Lane Hutsons defensive game is weak.

Tell me you don't watch Hutson without telling me you don't want Hutson.

Ironically many of these journalists rarely go past +/- anyway for a defensive stat and he's beating out Celebrini and Michkov on that stat.

 

[morhilane]

llll

Is this the real life, or is this just fantasy?

… but I’ll go along …

Let’s say Beck went where he was supposed to based on the Habs’ list (33rd, same as Bob’s list). If the Habs had Hutson valued ahead of Beck (as a 1st rd pick), but chose to wait until 62, it means they were hoping that 28 teams would pass on a player with a first round grade, in the 2nd round.

That’s a big gamble to take - if it doesn’t work out they’ve lost a 1st round pick, in their eyes.

I see your thinking, in theory, where you have 2 picks a few spots apart. You could flip the order based on the needs of the teams picking between … then hope they don’t make a trade. But 28 teams? No.

Hughes tried to trade up at the draft table to grab Hutson before 62 in day 2, it was in the 2022 draft video.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

No. They were just plain lucky he was still there.

Again though, this is easy to say now. He was 5’7.

Like Caufield few years before. Lack of size was the main reason in both cases.

Right. And they calculated that.

 

[1909]

Again though, this is easy to say now. He was 5’7.

Right. And they calculated that.

No. The kid was supposed to go early in the 2nd or mid round at worst in that year.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

No.

That’s second guessing.