Player Discussion Lane Hutson Part 2

Scriptor

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Yeah we have way too many assets to not package them up and I think your timeline is accurate. It makes sense on many levels. We’ll have a better idea of how all these guys look by that time.
Shipping out quality Ds in a package and keeping a top-4 of Hutson, Reinbacher, Guhle and Mailloux, if these all pan out is any brainer. At their young age, they will all be minute-munching Ds fora very long time. Whatever is left as a 3rd pairing really only needs be physical and defensively sound for the minutes they will play. Enough to fend off opposing offense and to wear down the other team.

Leaning on the top-4 to play 45-50 minutes shouldn't be a problem. Money well spent.

A player of Struble and Kovacevic's ilk would be sufficient to round out the D-Corps. Steady imposing enough, physically. Anything more is a bonus if you can sign that for the money Kovacevic and Struble would likely settle for? Hutson, Reinbacher, Guhle and Mailloux will likely eventually cost a pretty penny as a top-4.
 

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Not above Jiricek and Nemec but the rest, yes. And Id say he's about equal to the former two.

He's already really close to a top 15 D, and Im pretty sure he scratches the top 15 this year. Guhle was on pace for 25 primary 5v5 points on a 82 games season.

That would've given him enough primary points to rank amongst the top 15 of the best offensive defender in the whole NHL. All of that, on a bad team, with low offensive opportunity and while being a rookie.

His reputation follows him around as a bruising 2nd pair D, but he's completely exploded these expectations, it should be clear as day to anyone that watches him.

Somehow St-Louis won't use him on the PP but will use Matheson who's played under a minute of PP per game in his career.
Guhle should definitely at least be part of a 2nd PP wave on the point.

I just wonder how Hutson, Reinbacher, Mailloux and Guhle will all get PP minutes when they are on the roster at the same time?

Especially if we growth four forwards, at least on the 1st wave.

Could we see big boy with offensive acumen like Mailloux get used as a net front presence on one of the PP waves down the line?
 

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Guhle should definitely at least be part of a 2nd PP wave on the point.

I just wonder how Hutson, Reinbacher, Mailloux and Guhle will all get PP minutes when they are on the roster at the same time?

Especially if we growth four forwards, at least on the 1st wave.

Could we see big boy with offensive acumen like Mailloux get used as a net front presence on one of the PP waves down the line?
We only currently have 3 forwards that are noteworthy PP players. Lets worry about that later.
 

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Guhle should definitely at least be part of a 2nd PP wave on the point.

I just wonder how Hutson, Reinbacher, Mailloux and Guhle will all get PP minutes when they are on the roster at the same time?

Especially if we growth four forwards, at least on the 1st wave.

Could we see big boy with offensive acumen like Mailloux get used as a net front presence on one of the PP waves down the line?

At least one of Guhle or Reinbacher won't be on the pp when Hutson, Mailloux, and Reinbacher are in the nhl.

Hutson will be on pp1, and Mailloux will be on pp2.
Mailloux can be used as a trigger man on the pp similar to Caufield, which will allow for a 2nd dman to be on the unit. Whoever is better offensively between Guhle, Reinbacher, Xhekaj, and Engstrom/Barron could be that 2nd dman.

Potential units in 2 years
Pp1:
Caufield, Slaf, Suzuki, Dach, Hutson
Pp2:
Newhook, Mailloux, Roy, Farrell, Reinbacher
 

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At least one of Guhle or Reinbacher won't be on the pp when Hutson, Mailloux, and Reinbacher are in the nhl.

Hutson will be on pp1, and Mailloux will be on pp2.
Mailloux can be used as a trigger man on the pp similar to Caufield, which will allow for a 2nd dman to be on the unit. Whoever is better offensively between Guhle, Reinbacher, Xhekaj, and Engstrom/Barron could be that 2nd dman.

Potential units in 2 years
Pp1:
Caufield, Slaf, Suzuki, Dach, Hutson
Pp2:
Newhook, Mailloux, Roy, Farrell, Reinbacher
Reminder that Guhles better than all these players in every single situation.
 

CHwest

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Shipping out quality Ds in a package and keeping a top-4 of Hutson, Reinbacher, Guhle and Mailloux, if these all pan out is any brainer. At their young age, they will all be minute-munching Ds fora very long time. Whatever is left as a 3rd pairing really only needs be physical and defensively sound for the minutes they will play. Enough to fend off opposing offense and to wear down the other team.

Leaning on the top-4 to play 45-50 minutes shouldn't be a problem. Money well spent.

A player of Struble and Kovacevic's ilk would be sufficient to round out the D-Corps. Steady imposing enough, physically. Anything more is a bonus if you can sign that for the money Kovacevic and Struble would likely settle for? Hutson, Reinbacher, Guhle and Mailloux will likely eventually cost a pretty penny as a top-4.
I just cannot see Hutson as a top 4, more of a 3rd pairing PP specialist. Size, strength and skating are against him.
 

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Not above Jiricek and Nemec but the rest, yes. And Id say he's about equal to the former two.

He's already really close to a top 15 D, and Im pretty sure he scratches the top 15 this year. Guhle was on pace for 25 primary 5v5 points on a 82 games season.

That would've given him enough primary points to rank amongst the top 15 of the best offensive defender in the whole NHL. All of that, on a bad team, with low offensive opportunity and while being a rookie.

His reputation follows him around as a bruising 2nd pair D, but he's completely exploded these expectations, it should be clear as day to anyone that watches him.

Somehow St-Louis won't use him on the PP but will use Matheson who's played under a minute of PP per game in his career.
No idea how Xhekaj is seeing PP time but not Guhle.

Everything that is related to the Habs' PP management should be thrown in the trash.
 

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No idea how Xhekaj is seeing PP time but not Guhle.

Everything that is related to the Habs' PP management should be thrown in the trash.

They're trying to keep Guhle fresh for the playoffs, c'mon son.
 

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and why are we omitting Xhekaj? That guy has to be a rostered 3rd pair min as he will be an integral part of our identity moving forward.

I don't think anyone is.

For me the locks going forward are: Guhle, Hutson, Reinbacher and Xhekaj.

The question will be who of the rest finishes that out and my money right now is on Engstrom and Mailloux.
 

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At least one of Guhle or Reinbacher won't be on the pp when Hutson, Mailloux, and Reinbacher are in the nhl.

Hutson will be on pp1, and Mailloux will be on pp2.
Mailloux can be used as a trigger man on the pp similar to Caufield, which will allow for a 2nd dman to be on the unit. Whoever is better offensively between Guhle, Reinbacher, Xhekaj, and Engstrom/Barron could be that 2nd dman.

Potential units in 2 years
Pp1:
Caufield, Slaf, Suzuki, Dach, Hutson
Pp2:
Newhook, Mailloux, Roy, Farrell, Reinbacher
We will care about that if all of those guys make the NHL on a long term path
 

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At least one of Guhle or Reinbacher won't be on the pp when Hutson, Mailloux, and Reinbacher are in the nhl.

Hutson will be on pp1, and Mailloux will be on pp2.
Hutson may never make the NHL, and Mailloux may be an offensive specialist with a role to be determined.

Let's wait and see before making PP formations for 2 years down the road.
 

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Hutson is gonna be the best defenceman we have to help our forward score 5vs5 so yes he will be a top 4.
A rule change may be of assistance in that regard. Opponents will no longer be allowed to skate freely toward the Canadiens end. Their speed will be strictly limited to the speed the defenders can skate backwards. This should enable Lane to become a top-4 D by end of this season after his NCAA year is over.
 

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I don't think anyone is.

For me the locks going forward are: Guhle, Hutson, Reinbacher and Xhekaj.

The question will be who of the rest finishes that out and my money right now is on Engstrom and Mailloux.
For me, the locks for 2025-26 are Matheson, Guhle and Reinbacher as top-3 barring a new acquisition, and Xhekaj in the bottom 3. Barron, Harris, Mailloux, Struble, Engstrom, Trudeau and Hutson will be fighting it out for spots 4, 5 and 7.. I imagine Norlinder will be traded this seson.
 
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For me, the locks for 2025-26 are Matheson, Guhle and Reinbacher as top-3 barring a new acquisition, and Xhekaj in the bottom 3. Barron, Harris, Mailloux, Struble, Engstrom, Trudeau and Hutson will be fighting it out for spots 4, 5 and 7.. I imagine Norlinder will be traded this seson.
Matheson - Reinbacher
Guhle - Mailloux
Xhekaj - (Hutson/Engstrom/Bogdan)

They can all play on the PP. Most likely 2 or 3 of Mailloux, Reinbacher, Matheson, Hutson.

Barron and Harris traded. They’ll wait another year to make sure the 3 in brackets are still progressing well.
 

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I don't think anyone is.

For me the locks going forward are: Guhle, Hutson, Reinbacher and Xhekaj.

The question will be who of the rest finishes that out and my money right now is on Engstrom and Mailloux.
What about Matheson? With the way he skates, he should be good until he's 36 to 38.

At any rate I think the salary cap will also affect who we keep long term, in addition to the fact there are only 6 spots, especially if many of Mailloux, Guhle, Reinbacher, Hutson, Xhekaj, Engstrom, etc... hit their ceilings or close to it.
 
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WeThreeKings

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What about Matheson? With the way he skates, he should be good until he's 36 to 38.

At any rate I think the salary cap will also affect who we keep long term, in addition to the fact there are only 6 spots, especially if many of Mailloux, Guhle, Reinbacher, Hutson, Xhekaj, Engstrom, etc... hit their ceilings or close to it.

I expect him to be a salary cap casualty at some point
 
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