Player Discussion Lane Hutson Part 2

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Yeah looks exactly like what we've seen on the ice.
I've always wanted to know who decides what makes a GF expected
Because honestly I wasn't expecting much of anything with a lot of his possession.

Seeing how he's in the top 20 for assists, maybe the problem is your expectations.

You don't understand expected stats and yet you act like it means nothing. Biased much? It's a model that quantifies +/- against shot quality and save%. It gives a better idea of the quality of play vs situational play. The best players are usually always high in xGF%. McDavid, McKinnon and Barkov are always high up there as they either or both create and/or prevent high danger shots. There are also players who are used as exploits who often end-up there as they get better chances.

LOL Crazy how he starts converting when he's finally getting reps with our best forwards.

Right. Like most players, especially rookies.... Not that you'd notice, but it's not the first time he's top 20 in assists over the season, so your assertion isn't even valid. He had a small slump. Again, y'know, a rookie.

Dipsy Dolittle is becoming Dipsy Doing-a-little more.

Two positive games in a row.

You must be pretty bored by the tank.

 

[Rapala]

Seeing how he's in the top 20 for assists, maybe the problem is your expectations.

You don't understand expected stats and yet you act like it means nothing. Biased much? It's a model that quantifies +/- against shot quality and save%. It gives a better idea of the quality of play vs situational play. The best players are usually always high in xGF%. McDavid, McKinnon and Barkov are always high up there as they either or both create and/or prevent high danger shots. There are also players who are used as exploits who often end-up there as they get better chances.



Right. Like most players, especially rookies.... Not that you'd notice, but it's not the first time he's top 20 in assists over the season, so your assertion isn't even valid. He had a small slump. Again, y'know, a rookie.



You must be pretty bored by the tank.

I've been watching hockey far too long to buy into stats that don't reflect what I'm seeing on the ice.
Plenty of one against the world rushes for Lane with no one to pass to is not an expected goal for.
My argument was about him not being a net positive player.
I don't give a crap about assists if he's also constantly leaking goals.

He's improving that is all I care about. Net positive for two games in a row.

 

[chapeau]

Would you rather have a rich man's Victor Mete, or a poor man's Cale Makar. Those are the important questions I ask myself.

I think a homeless man's Cale Makar is preferable to a millionaire man's Victor Mete.

 

[BJCOLLINS]

Hutson ties Shane Wright in career points from the 2022 draft.
just say’n??

 

[badfish]

He's been fantastic lately. Really excited to watch him today in Boston. Maybe capture some of the magic from his NCAA days. The amazing thing is that defensemen don't normally peak until their mid to late 20s.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

He's been fantastic lately. Really excited to watch him today in Boston. Maybe capture some of the magic from his NCAA days. The amazing thing is that defensemen don't normally peak until their mid to late 20s.

One of the most impressive rookie starts I’ve ever seen from a Hab.

He could still falter as the season progresses but people are gonna have to be fine with it. They won’t be but they’ll have to be. You don’t have this kind of start as a 20 y/o rookie D man unless you’re an extremely special talent.

I think Slaf is gonna be an incredible player and Hutson could still be the true no.1 pick. That’s how good he can be. Right now it seems like we have the 2 best players from that draft which is insane and will radically change the look of this team for years

 

[badfish]

One of the most impressive rookie starts I’ve ever seen from a Hab.

He could still falter as the season progresses but people are gonna have to be fine with it. They won’t be but they’ll have to be. You don’t have this kind of start as a 20 y/o rookie D man unless you’re an extremely special talent.

I think Slaf is gonna be an incredible player and Hutson could still be the true no.1 pick. That’s how good he can be. Right now it seems like we have the 2 best players from that draft which is insane and will radically change the look of this team for years

Agreed. I think this summer I posed the question would you trade Hutson for anyone who was picked before him. I wouldn't. I don't think I'd trade Slaf for anyone picked #2-61 either.

 

[BargainBinSpecial]

One of the highlight stories to cheer for, post BargainBin.

 

[JuJu Mobb]

He's being compared to Tyson Barrie on the ''main'' boards.

 

[EveryDay]

He's being compared to Tyson Barrie on the ''main'' boards.

That's a Pejorative Slured comment, that guy must have suffer from aneurysm recently.

 

[KevSkillz4]

He's being compared to Tyson Barrie on the ''main'' boards.

He is way more closer to Hughes and Makar than Barrie lol!

 

[Gaud]

Like every single Defenseman in the NHL.

except Mete

 

[Habs Halifax]

He's being compared to Tyson Barrie on the ''main'' boards.

That's because everything we have is considered meh by others. No other fan will pump up our own and talk about their true potential. If another teams fan base had Hutson, they would pump him up as well and we would be like meh... too small.

Pretty standard on the main boards. Especially towards the Habs and anything we got.

 

[NotProkofievian]

That's because everything we have is considered meh by others. No other fan will pump up our own and talk about their true potential. If another teams fan base had Hutson, they would pump him up as well and we would be like meh... too small.

Pretty standard on the main boards. Especially towards the Habs and anything we got.

To be fair, we have had a lot of meh.

 

[Habs Halifax]

To be fair, we have had a lot of meh.

This is true in the past but over the last few years with high draft power and good trending prospects? I think our pool has both quality and quantity and it's deep. The draft power the Habs have had is almost historic. Not to the Oilers level (so many 1s OA picks) but in terms of how many top 10 picks, 1st rounders, and quantity beyond (Hutson is one of them). It's difficult to find another situation that matches up well against it.

I think all fan bases are guilty to be honest. The main goal here is to produce talent and we are but they are mostly all still young. We are developing so many young players at the same time which will create issues.

How good Hutson will be is not yet determined. He's off to a good start but we have seen this before right? The other layer is having both Hutson and Matheson mixed in a young D is not the right mix. Both of these types needs steady guys to lean on while they are creative and we just don't have it. Savard can't handle a top 4D mentorship role at this stage of his career. He belongs on a contender as a bottom pairing guy and the results are much different.

 

[Team_Spirit]

This load of information hurt my brain a little, but it all checks out. Lane is good, all is good

Sometimes it's best to keep it simple

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

A 2nd assist was added to Hutson last game



He has 15 pts in 24 games now

2nd in rookie scoring, and 4 pts behind Michkov

 

[badfish]

A 2nd assist was added to Hutson last game



He has 15 pts in 24 games now

2nd in rookie scoring, and 4 pts behind Michkov

Very generous assist lol, it's hard to even tell he touched the puck on that play.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Very generous assist lol, it's hard to even tell he touched the puck on that play.

At real-time speed, its hard to tell, but at 0.25 speed, we can see the deflection

 

[badfish]

At real-time speed, its hard to tell, but at 0.25 speed, we can see the deflection

 

[SamHabsFan]

so Im wondering, is there an NHL employee that get paid to rewatch all goals from the night before to check if the assists were right? or would that be a Candiens employee who flagged the goal to the NHL to adjust ?

 

[Rapala]

so Im wondering, is there an NHL employee that get paid to rewatch all goals from the night before to check if the assists were right? or would that be a Candiens employee who flagged the goal to the NHL to adjust ?

The official scorer reviews every goal. Generally when an assist is added it's usually clear cut and happens fairly quickly.
I think there is also a mechanism whereby a review can be requested.

If you remember a few games back people thought Slaf deserved a point I think it was against Edmonton but the replay was inconclusive.
The league would have looked or have been asked to look at it and decided Ekholm was the one who moved the puck.

I think they were right but a lot of people still don't.

 

[Koivu11]

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

I don't know about you guys but he's alot better defensively than I thought he would be. I also wasn't penciling him as a hughes makar tho like some were -.-

 

[Goalfield13]

I don't know about you guys but he's alot better defensively than I thought he would be. I also wasn't penciling him as a hughes makar tho like some were -.-

We got lucky for once. Great addition.