Player Discussion Lane Hutson Part 2

[Estimated_Prophet]

Wow, so much naysayers lol, a lot said the same thing about Caufield, too small, not fast enough, not good defensively, his goal scoring ability will not translate to the NHL, a guy with the skill level of Hutson will adapt to the NHL, i have no doubts, just enjoy that we got a gem like this in second round instead of nitpickin.

Nobody on this board was saying any of that,.

Once again the formula is at work:

1) Establish bias
2) When unable to directly refute statements build a Strawman
3) Use non sequitur to arrive at conclusion after burning Strawman

There are zero comparables between Caufield and Hutson other than height where Lane has the advantage. Caufield was always a good skater but just needed to add an extra gear, which he did. Caufield is also a little tank compared to Hutson who is very stick-like and they play totally opposite positions where size advantage is least important on the wing and most important on D.

Come on guys, this board is not RDS Talkback/Facebook/Twitter. This is a board where true hockey fans come in earnest to have intelligent, critical, honest conversations. There is nothing wrong with being wrong as long as you are willing to learn

 

[Belial]

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Skating backwards is becoming less and less important as coaches want pressure and pivots happening sooner.... but yes I do agree that Hutson will need to become a stronger skater. I think there is time for that.

It is absolutely not becoming less and less important, quite the opposite as skating backwards and pivoting in and out of it effectively is the only way to consistently/effectively stop attackers with speed entering the zone.

 

[WinterLion]

It is absolutely not becoming less and less important, quite the opposite as skating backwards and pivoting in and out of it effectively is the only way to consistently/effectively stop attackers with speed entering the zone.

You don't remember MSL telling his defenders he didn't want them skating backwards earlier in the season?

Coaches want the D to pressure sooner and retreat less because of the back pressure... but yes obviously pivoting is important... Hutson is very agile

 

[HomaridII]

 

[AHShadow]

Funny to think that these two may be going head-to-head for a decade in a few years (if Hutson continues on his development path).

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

You don't remember MSL telling his defenders he didn't want them skating backwards earlier in the season?

Coaches want the D to pressure sooner and retreat less because of the back pressure... but yes obviously pivoting is important... Hutson is very agile

Definitely not as he certainly never said that as a rule. If he said it at all then it was purely situational. He must be uber pissed at every one of our dmen if he banned backskating which he most assuredly did not because all of them do it a lot....every game.

He likely is asking them to create a bigger gap before pivoting into a backskate or asking them to attack and kill the play instead of sagging too low. This attack is almost always launched from a backskate. These are general principles that have been around forever as Marty just wants the team to be aggressive. He certainly has never usurped Robidas and attempted to impose such a Draconian measure on the D corps.

Perhaps I understand what you are trying to say if it is that he is looking to kill plays early but that doesn't make backskating less important. As dmen still need to use it a ton especially on odd man rushes. You can not defend an odd man rush if you can't backskate.

 

[morhilane]

You don't remember MSL telling his defenders he didn't want them skating backwards earlier in the season?

Coaches want the D to pressure sooner and retreat less because of the back pressure... but yes obviously pivoting is important... Hutson is very agile

Hutson has issues defending against players with longer reaches than him (Hutson has like none) because his mobility (and explosiveness) is limited when not moving forward. The limited reach to cut line/space is still there until is skating improve regardless where he plays in the dzone.

But I'm not too concerned about him improving his skating.

 

[WinterLion]

Him coming up clutch like that is so solid.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Okay sure but why was Craig 17 years old? And what about the other guy?

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Craig Redmond (D)[/TD]
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[TD]34[/TD]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]38[/TD]
[TD]54[/TD]
[TD]1.59[/TD]
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Curt Giles (D)[/TD]
[TD]1976-1977[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]Univ. of Minnesota-Duluth[/TD]
[TD]37[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]37[/TD]
[TD]49[/TD]
[TD]1.32[/TD]
[TD]64[/TD]
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Brian Leetch (D)[/TD]
[TD]1986-1987[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]Boston College[/TD]
[TD]37[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]38[/TD]
[TD]47[/TD]
[TD]1.27[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
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Lane Hutson (D)

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[TD]Boston Univ.[/TD]
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[TD]12[/TD]
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Neither Giles nor Redmond were freshmen in their D1. In both cases, they were drafted later. Similar to Fantilli this year.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Him coming up clutch like that is so solid.

He is such an intense competitor, difficult to not see him make it.

 

[SlafySZN]

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

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Someone needs to make a gif, or video of these two bobbing back and forth.

 

[FrankMTL]

This is basically like looking into Lane's future 2 years from now. A little bit bigger, a little bit of facial hair (finally)...

 

[Draft]

So he’s tied Leetch’s record in one less game?

 

[JustAHabFan]

So he’s tied Leetch’s record in one less game?

Yes. Because of one less game, it will be a new record.

 

[Legend123]

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If quinn is 5 11 then lane should be 5 10, 5 9 min, judging from that picture

 

[jfm133]

The elite talent was always there, but the size at the draft was a real concern. Remember, Caufield did not grow at all after his draft, he was 5'07" and still is 5'07". Habs were able to pick him at the end of the second round because he was 5'08" with no guarantee he would grow more. It was a gamble, and now that he is 5'10", and maybe ending up like his brother at 5'11". It is clear now that this gamble was a great one.

Still very early to be definitive on that, but there is a chance that Hutson will end up compensating for picking Slaf at #1. At least we know Hutson has real elite talent. In fact, he was picked for the total opposite reasons as Slafkovsky. Slaf was pick primarily because of his size, as for Hutson, it was totally based on talent.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

The elite talent was always there, but the size at the draft was a real concern. Remember, Caufield did not grow at all after his draft, he was 5'07" and still is 5'07". Habs were able to pick him at the end of the second round because he was 5'08" with no guarantee he would grow more. It was a gamble, and now that he is 5'10", and maybe ending up like his brother at 5'11". It is clear now that this gamble was a great one.

Still very early to be definitive on that, but there is a chance that Hutson will end up compensating for picking Slaf at #1. At least we know Hutson has real elite talent. In fact, he was picked for the total opposite reasons as Slafkovsky. Slaf was pick primarily because of his size, as for Hutson, it was totally based on talent.

Even at 5'8 he would still have a chance to play in the NHL. He is electric with the puck and his vision/hockey IQ is also unreal

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

The elite talent was always there, but the size at the draft was a real concern. Remember, Caufield did not grow at all after his draft, he was 5'07" and still is 5'07". Habs were able to pick him at the end of the second round because he was 5'08" with no guarantee he would grow more. It was a gamble, and now that he is 5'10", and maybe ending up like his brother at 5'11". It is clear now that this gamble was a great one.

Still very early to be definitive on that, but there is a chance that Hutson will end up compensating for picking Slaf at #1. At least we know Hutson has real elite talent. In fact, he was picked for the total opposite reasons as Slafkovsky. Slaf was pick primarily because of his size, as for Hutson, it was totally based on talent.

The funny (?) Part is he went out and went above and beyond to show teams he would drow because he knew the concerns were about his size.

Jared Sprugeon is 5'8, or '9 and he's more of a stay-at-home dman than he is offensive.

Habs got lucky, but also good on them to not wait any longer and take him when they did.

 

[Tetragrammaton]

Lane Hutson is officially the GOAT

Good job little buddy

 

[jfm133]

He would have been a PP specialist at best. He was not just 5'08", he was 150 lbs. It's not Torey Krug or Francis Bouillon at 200 lbs.

Even at 5'8 he would still have a chance to play in the NHL. He is electric with the puck and his vision/hockey IQ is also unreal

 

[JeffreyLFC]

He would have been a PP specialist at best. He was not just 5'08", he was 150 lbs. It's not Torey Krug or Francis Bouillon at 200 lbs.

Size is another concern but Rafalski, Spurgeon, Quinton Hughes are not heavy weight either and have/had good NHL careers.

 

[SlafySZN]

The elite talent was always there, but the size at the draft was a real concern. Remember, Caufield did not grow at all after his draft, he was 5'07" and still is 5'07". Habs were able to pick him at the end of the second round because he was 5'08" with no guarantee he would grow more. It was a gamble, and now that he is 5'10", and maybe ending up like his brother at 5'11". It is clear now that this gamble was a great one.

Still very early to be definitive on that, but there is a chance that Hutson will end up compensating for picking Slaf at #1. At least we know Hutson has real elite talent. In fact, he was picked for the total opposite reasons as Slafkovsky. Slaf was pick primarily because of his size, as for Hutson, it was totally based on talent.

People are starting to underrate Slafkovsky…

Crazy to me.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

People are starting to underrate Slafkovsky…

Crazy to me.

If Hutson was in the nhl this year, he would be struggling and the same people who are calling Slaf a bust and who are hyped about Hutson would be calling Hutson a bust.
Its like people can't differentiate between leagues.