Player Discussion Lane Hutson Part 2

JianYang

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Yeah he's not starting in Laval. He's too dynamic.

Watching him is going to take 10 years off my life but in a rollercoaster way. His unpredictability is what makes him so good, but it also makes me pearl-clutch when he's taking risks at the blue line.

Really fun player.

Subban would do alot of daring things at the blue line as well before he lost his agility.

But he was frequently successful with it, so I didn't really bat an eye. Hopefully we get to have similar comfort with lane.
 

Lafleurs Guy

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They could always try Matheson with Hutson on the PP. matheson’s skating would help negate any speed deficiency with Hutson. They could try putting MM on the right side…
 
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They could always try Matheson with Hutson on the PP. matheson’s skating would help negate any speed deficiency with Hutson. They could try putting MM on the right side…
No need for MM on the first waive once Hutson takes control and a good way to lower is time on ice. Hutson will revolutionize the PP as a positionless moving unit more than the static vomit we've been used to.
 

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No need for MM on the first waive once Hutson takes control and a good way to lower is time on ice. Hutson will revolutionize the PP as a positionless moving unit more than the static vomit we've been used to.
He and Hutson could spend the entire two minutes on the PP.

If you want Hutson in the 1st PP unit, this is how you do it. They’re not going to put him there over Matheson right now.
 

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No, just no...
Hutson doesn't have elite speed, but he's not speed deficient either.
Hutson's backward skating is not at NHL level. It may be the reason he gets beaten on the outside and it may be why he turns quite often and defends skating forward.

That is rarely a problem on the PP but do you keep Hutson up just to play on the PP? Hughes has gone on record saying he won't keep Hutson in the NHL simply to play the PP.
 

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Hutson's backward skating is not at NHL level. It may be the reason he gets beaten on the outside and it may be why he turns quite often and defends skating forward.

That is rarely a problem on the PP but do you keep Hutson up just to play on the PP? Hughes has gone on record saying he won't keep Hutson in the NHL simply to play the PP.

Every game Hutson has played in a Habs jersey he's been unequivocally one of the best players on the ice.

Hutson is a lock for the team and they will not be managing his minutes as a specialist.
 

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Agreed. I think Hutson has superstar potential. But he’s not a fast skater and Matheson would negate that weakness.

They’re both good on the PP - just play them both.
If Hutson can add speed to his skating like Hughes or Matheson type of D, he will become very dangerous as he will bring the puck in ozone on the rush and sometimes have a chance to pass defenders. As for now, he will rely on his edges, since his top speed is probably 400th in the NHL. It's concerning that he has to give so much effort to take fast. If he becomes a smooth skater like Karlsson, he will be a threat on every shift, but i'll give him 2-3 years to see if they can correct that. Some guys just never add speed because of their physical limitations
 

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There were people getting restless in the rink over Matheson fumbling the puck on the pp during a pre season game lol. I like Matheson but there's no reason other than "the way things go" that he should be on PP1 over Hutson.
 

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If Hutson can add speed to his skating like Hughes or Matheson type of D, he will become very dangerous as he will bring the puck in ozone on the rush and sometimes have a chance to pass defenders. As for now, he will rely on his edges, since his top speed is probably 400th in the NHL. It's concerning that he has to give so much effort to take fast. If he becomes a smooth skater like Karlsson, he will be a threat on every shift, but i'll give him 2-3 years to see if they can correct that. Some guys just never add speed because of their physical limitations
You don't add speed unless the skating mechanic is truly terrible. You can improve technique and strength to his legs but overall it's not an easy fix. I think the most important is learning on how to use his skating to his advantage and work on his gap control. I still believe he is too smart to not improve his positioning when facing faster player with a player like him the most important his limiting the impact of his flaws and let him uses his strength to his advantage, that will take time, reps and a lot video coaching. He is ready for the NHL, he needs to compete against the best to improve that part of his game.
 

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I know they won’t ever do it because blah blah veteran, but this kid needs to start on PP1. Matheson is too static and predictable. The PP barely has any movement and is too easy to defend. No one is taking defenders out of position to open up lanes.
 

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You don't add speed unless the skating mechanic is truly terrible. You can improve technique and strength to his legs but overall it's not an easy fix. I think the most important is learning on how to use his skating to his advantage and work on his gap control. I still believe he is too smart to not improve his positioning when facing faster player with a player like him the most important his limiting the impact of his flaws and let him uses his strength to his advantage, that will take time, reps and a lot video coaching. He is ready for the NHL, he needs to compete against the best to improve that part of his game.
There are definitely mechanical fixes he can do. I've said it before but if I'm Montreal I'm giving Barb a blank cheque's to work with him.
 

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I know they won’t ever do it because blah blah veteran, but this kid needs to start on PP1. Matheson is too static and predictable. The PP barely has any movement and is too easy to defend. No one is taking defenders out of position to open up lanes.
He’ll be on PP1 at some point. Will he start there? Maybe not as Matheson is in that seat. But that’s all the more reason to play them both there.
 

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When you watch thousands of games you can generally predict where a player is going to pass to or move they are going to make or at least attempt to. Suzuki completes the predictable play at a high percentage rate, Matheson would execute at an above average rate, Newhook at an average rate and someone like Armia ( or Eller previously) doesn’t even see or try to execute the predictable play or any play for that matter.

Watching Game 1, Hutson’s vision/IQ are elite and executes the unpredictable play at a high percentage - his linemates were caught off guard many times not expecting the puck that once they get used to him will make him that much more dangerous. He obviously doesn’t have McDavid’s speed/skating but his brain is on the same level.
 

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When you watch thousands of games you can generally predict where a player is going to pass to or move they are going to make or at least attempt to. Suzuki completes the predictable play at a high percentage rate, Matheson would execute at an above average rate, Newhook at an average rate and someone like Armia ( or Eller previously) doesn’t even see or try to execute the predictable play or any play for that matter.

Watching Game 1, Hutson’s vision/IQ are elite and executes the unpredictable play at a high percentage - his linemates were caught off guard many times not expecting the puck that once they get used to him will make him that much more dangerous. He obviously doesn’t have McDavid’s speed/skating but his brain is on the same level.

I mentioned yesterday how as soon as Hutson has the puck, he's already baiting whatever incoming player, selling a move and then going in an opposite way. He does this constantly, but I didn't want to mention the other player I see often doing this too, McDavid. It's Jordan-esque.
 

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Patently false. You're acting as if armia = Anderson. Cycling/smart,safe plays is a huge part of Armias game. Where are you getting this nonsense?
He's called One Man Armia for a reason, he doesn't pass lol.

It is pretty effective though because nobody can shield the puck on our team like he can
 

Spearmint Rhino

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Patently false. You're acting as if armia = Anderson. Cycling/smart,safe plays is a huge part of Armias game. Where are you getting this nonsense?
Not to derail the Hutson thread but puck possession is great I guess if the game is to keep it out of the oppositions net and off your teammates sticks like during a PK or protecting a lead. Anderson would fall into the well below average category at attempting or executing the predictable play
 

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Not to derail the Hutson thread but puck possession is great I guess if the game is to keep it out of the oppositions net and off your teammates sticks like during a PK or protecting a lead. Anderson would fall into the well below average category at attempting or executing the predictable play
I'm not arguing that armia has elite vision or IQ but you're rating him far too low
 
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