Hutson has very limited foot speed. When Matheson steals a puck, no one catches him.
Player Discussion Lane Hutson Part 2
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Nothing ridiculous about it.
You may indeed be right but it’s too soon to know and Hutson’s done nothing but overdeliver. We’ll see but Hutson’s been so far beyond what we thought he’d be on draft day. Really impressive.
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To me I don't think anyone on the Habs will hit 90-100 pts if we don't have a Markov like blueliner that can QB the PP and feed them pucks.
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I do not believe that is necessarily true but I understand what you are saying and agree that it is important to have a dman who can QB a top PP. There is still no sane conversation that has Hutson at the same level as Demidov or Slafkovsky as Hutson will always be smaller and slower than he needs to be to be a strong enough defender to put himself in that conversation. Kaprizov has consistently reached over 90 points without any offensive help from dmen. Crosby and Malkin have done it with Letang who has only broke 60 points twice in his career (one more than Matheson) and he did so on the backs of Crosby and Malkin. Marchnad and Pastrnak have consistently done it without a 60 point dman. Mathews, Nylander and Marner have done it with Morgan Reilly who would struggle to hit 50 points any where else. There is every reason to believe that the Habs have dmen who could be competent PP QB's who can be very productive and at the level of MaCavoy or Lindholm. Guhle is criminally underrated in this regard but we still have Reinbacher, Mailloux, Engstrom, Barron and even Xhekaj who could all potentially be productive on a top PP that features multiple star forwards.
I am super excited about Hutson's potential but Slaf and Demidov have the potential to be elite in every sense of the word. Hutson is no ore important than Reinbacher and Guhle as they will play a much more important role in shutting down the opposition's stars. This is not to diminish Hutson's potential as I do believe that he will be a big time offensive player who plays bigger than his size in the dzone but he will always have some glaring defficiencies that other player will need to compensate for. I don't think there is any situation that will overwhelm Slaf or Demidov due to their elite skill set and commitment to a 200 foot game.
There is no doubt that Lane will boost Slaf's and Demidov's numbers and vice versa but that does not put him in the conversation as being equally important. If he had the potential to be a true #1 who shuts down the opponents top lines as well as a big time point producer then he would be there but that is not who Lane will ever be and that is ok.
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He was so, so good. Such a smart player too. Just good decisions after good decisions. He is an absolute joy to watch. I know everyone's heard it 100 times already, but I can't wait to see Demidov play during the same PP shift.
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This is why the summer of hearing ''We're basically the same team as last year, plus Laine'' is so deadwrong.
We're not adding just basic skills, we're adding multiple players with game breaking ability, to different level of course.
Hutson is one of them, and I just can't wait to see a PP of Hutson, Caufield, Suzuki, Laine and Slafkovsky or Dach......as the potential to be insane.
We're not adding just basic skills, we're adding multiple players with game breaking ability, to different level of course.
Hutson is one of them, and I just can't wait to see a PP of Hutson, Caufield, Suzuki, Laine and Slafkovsky or Dach......as the potential to be insane.
Lane is one of those guys that just bring a certain energy to the game, when he has the puck, even on his own end, the crowd stands up, starts screaming, and even the bench stands up or leans over.
Personally, haven't seen anything like that on the Habs since Subban. Caufield can score some beautiful goals but guys like Lane make the impossible possible, they make your imagination fly while watching him as to what he could do next.
Personally, haven't seen anything like that on the Habs since Subban. Caufield can score some beautiful goals but guys like Lane make the impossible possible, they make your imagination fly while watching him as to what he could do next.
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Listening to meat heads like Cowan who is incapable of providing even the most miniscule evidence of abstract thought is awful.
We have added almost an entire 2nd line that could potentially be an elite 2nd line. We can build two PPs with strong personnel where imo Hutson should bump Matheson and his 62 points down to the 2nd unit.
If Guhle, Xhekaj, Barron, Mailloux etc take another step forward then this team could very easily be transformed into a playoff team and potentially a good one. Slafkovsky has the potential to absolutely explode as his learning curve is trending in an insane trajectory right now.
Of course plenty can go wrong including injuries, regression and the goaltending situation falling apart but these clowns using the typical formula of the clueless talking heads to try and project season standings is laughable and they do it every year at this time.
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Hutson and Beck were head and shoulders above the rest today from start to finish. These games don't mean much at all but I was not surprised to see that these two stood out.
For those who are crapping on some of the kids, remember that these games are difficult to play in without structure and chemistry. Try and refrain from strongly worded negative comments about the players as most of these kids read this board and they are still kids so keep that in mind.
Way too many question marks to be this hopeful. We have yet to see a healthy Dach for a full season. Laine has been trending down up to this point. Slafkovsky's final half of last season was great, but he still only hit 50 points. We can't get too excited like when fans on here were clamoring about how Caufield would hit 40 or 50 goals. Speaking of which, we don't know how Caufield will perform this year.
Who knows what will happen on D. The only certitude for me is that Hutson will have a breakout year. He looks as electrifying as Subban was back then. Matheson is unlikely to repeat last season considering he never was that good before.
Our goalies are ok, but you can't expect miracles like we usually got with Price in the past.
Honestly, I'd rather we just pick high again and finish this rebuild nicely! Too many good teams in our division anyway.
Looks like the Habs snagged two top 5 talents from the 2022 draft.
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There are plenty of reasons to be hopeful and that can not be denied.
I did not say that I am expecting them to turn into a playoff team which is something that you could critique but "hope" is an entirely different word than "expect".
It is likely that Slafkovsky will be better this season and he was on nearly a ppg pace over the final 40 games therefore it would not be unreasonable to expect him to come close to 70 points but I hope that he score 80+. Both "hope" and "expect" are solidly grounded in evidence yet have little relation with one another.
Laine was a ppg player with Columbus over his final two seasons previous to entering the program this past season and he did this without a playmaking center.
If Hutson breaks out it will be at the expense of Matheson's numbers and I am perfectly content with that.
To speak with cynicism about Slaf's ability to do someting that he has already proven to be capable of and then turn around and guarantee Hutson's meteoric rise to stardom is a blatant contradiction as you are not applying the same underlying principles to each scenario.
Teams who take massive steps historically do so due to internal progression from their own players and not necessarilly by trading although a trade or two doesn't hurt. This team has all of the ingredients to potentially take the league by surprise and this can not be objectively debated. We can however debate the likelihood of it actually happening.
I see a combination of Carolina and New Jersey when they surprised everyone. Hopefully we can stay healthy and take a big step forward as another year of finishing in the bottom five might start to bear seeds of doubt in the young core and is not what any fan should be hoping for. If we finish bottom 5 it will be because we have sustained serious injuries and/or our youngsters have not progressed and to wish for that is crazy imo.
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There is no world where Lane Hutson goes top 5 in 2022
He is as talented as any player chosen in 2022. I didn't say he should have been picked top 5 but there is no denying he is a top 5 talent from that draft.
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Why post in this thread if it triggers you so much ? There is no world where Hutson wasn't a top 5 talent in 2022. The issue was always his size, not his talent. At 6'2", he goes 1st OA.
Exactly my point...thank you
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Top 5 talent is the exact same thing as saying that he should have been drafted in that area. Size, Strength, Speed are all ingredients that go into determining overall talent.
If you want to say that he has top 5 offensive skills then that would be a statement that could actually be debated. The dumbest thing that fans consistently say (not you) is "if he was; insert height/weight, he would have gone so much higher" as though that has any meaning whatsoever and makes him a better player lol. For every little guy like Hutson who works out there are far more who do not yet these fans will anecdotally point to their go to examples and present them as the norm despite the overwhelming evidence on the other side of the debate.
I wanted us to pick him exactly where we got him because of the offensive upside and it worked out. Of course there will be those who will claim that they knew he would be great and wanted him with our 2nd first of 2022 but they are not sharing all of the times that they were wrong.
Anyways...Lane still has plenty to prove but I believe that he will be a big time offensive producer. Hopefully his intelligence and combativeness will advance his defensive game to the point where it is passable in the NHL.
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There was no triggered response.
I provided context to a statement that was at the very best misworded.....it is you who is again triggered as you are every time someone mentions that Hutson may not be the next Bobby Orr even if they exude praise on parts of his game that deserve it,
This is a message board and not an echo chamber so that begs the question. Why post on a message board when you are not willing to accept anything other than echo chamber narratives that you can discuss in your own head?
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Every game he plays, he proves himself more and more.
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If you grade him individually on each attribute he does not sniff the top 5, if you are referring to puck skill and offensive IQ I am in total agreement that he is at least top 5 and maybe even #1. Unfortunately the latter of these two scenarios does not equate to "talent" but much closer to "skill" and these two words are not synonymous. We just watched Fraser Minten easily catch him from behind despite one of the main critiques of Minten has always been his skating. Speed and strength are two very important attributes that are part of a "talent" portfolio and too many fans conflate "skill" with "talent" nowadays.
I love Hutson as a prospect but I get shoved into these situations where fans are overzealous with their praise. I am not insinuating that you are one of these antagonists but I literally can not provide an objective opinion that every pro scout would likely agree with on this board about Lane Hutson without being attacked and often on the personal side.
Agreed although this game meant absolutely nothing. He has an enormous competitive drive that you just can not bet against
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