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Player Discussion Lane Hutson Part 2

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The Great Weal said:
Ya no freaking way for the other team lol. Celebrini will likely be a star in this league. 10th OA will likely be a 2nd liner, Beck is likely a 3rd liner, and Hutson is a mystery box.
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We can easily reverse that too. Celebrini can be a bust, Hutson a star, the 10th a very good player, even a 1st line forward. Beck can develop into a solid 2C.

It's too risky to trade that type of package.

But yeah Celebrini have all tools to become a star. Beck most likely a great 3C. But I'm very confident that Lane Hutson isn't a mystery box, he have all tools to continue produce at NHL level. He is that good!
 
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KevSkillz4 said:
We can easily reverse that too. Celebrini can be a bust, Hutson a star, the 10th a very good player, even a 1st line forward. Beck can develop into a solid 2C.

It's too risky to trade that type of package.

But yeah Celebrini have all tools to become a star. Beck most likely a great 3C. But I'm very confident that Lane Hutson isn't a mystery box, he have all tools to continue produce at NHL level. He is that good!
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A 62nd OA is far more likely to bust than a 1st OA, the "reverse" is nowhere close to the same level of likelihood.

It isn't when you're getting a 1st line center on his ELC out of it. Celebrini has a realistic chance of having a Jack Eichel like impact on us.

Producing at the NHL level and being a superstar #1 dman aren't the same thing. Production is only part of it.
 
The Great Weal said:
Ya no freaking way for the other team lol. Celebrini will likely be a star in this league. 10th OA will likely be a 2nd liner, Beck is likely a 3rd liner, and Hutson is a mystery box.
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I’m good with that too. Either way, I don’t make that trade. This is going to be a good draft. Lidstrom 6’4 center is currently ranked 10th and there are a bunch of others above him who look great. Eiserman could slide to like 5th… My guess is we’ll be 7-9. I don’t make that trade.
 
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Lafleurs Guy said:
I’m good with that too. Either way, I don’t make that trade. This is going to be a good draft. Lidstrom 6’4 center is currently ranked 10th and there are a bunch of others above him who look great. Eiserman could slide to like 5th… My guess is we’ll be 7-9. I don’t make that trade.
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A bunch of others look great, but Celebrini is so much better than the rest. Guy is a star 1C in the making that will play in all situations. Not trading quantity for quality like Celebrini is crazy.

I love Hutson, and frankly wanted him picked sooner. That being said he's a boom/bust prospect. Beck is very easily replaceable, and as mentioned the difference between Celebrini and #10 is astronomical.
 
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The Great Weal said:
A bunch of others look great, but Celebrini is so much better than the rest. Guy is a star 1C in the making that will play in all situations. Not trading quantity for quality like Celebrini is crazy.

I love Hutson, and frankly wanted him picked sooner. That being said he's a boom/bust prospect. Beck is very easily replaceable, and as mentioned the difference between Celebrini and #10 is astronomical.
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No way Celibrini will be traded by the team who will win the lottery.
 
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The Great Weal said:
A bunch of others look great, but Celebrini is so much better than the rest. Guy is a star 1C in the making that will play in all situations. Not trading quantity for quality like Celebrini is crazy.

I love Hutson, and frankly wanted him picked sooner. That being said he's a boom/bust prospect. Beck is very easily replaceable, and as mentioned the difference between Celebrini and #10 is astronomical.
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As an aside - I don’t think any team who drafts Cellebrini would trade him.

I guess it’d depend on who’s left at where we’re at. But I’d be really reluctant to trade that plus Huston plus Beck. I’d prefer trying to trade up for a guy like Catton and keeping Hutson.

It reminds me of the early rumours of us trading Subban… I don’t like to trade away prime prospects and certainly not with other high picks.
 
The Great Weal said:
A 62nd OA is far more likely to bust than a 1st OA, the "reverse" is nowhere close to the same level of likelihood.
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If you’re looking at things in a vaccum… sure. But there’s no way Hutson goes 62nd in a redraft. The guys’d really good.

Straight up - yeah, there’s less risk with Cellebrini and everyone would do that. But Beck and our first? It’s just too rich.
 
The Great Weal said:
A bunch of others look great, but Celebrini is so much better than the rest. Guy is a star 1C in the making that will play in all situations. Not trading quantity for quality like Celebrini is crazy.
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It’s not a quantity for quality deal. It’s quality plus quantity for x.

I get it. Guy’s a stud. But damn, I hate the idea of dealing Hutson to begin with. Add in Beck and a pick? It’s just too much.

The Great Weal said:
I love Hutson, and frankly wanted him picked sooner. That being said he's a boom/bust prospect. Beck is very easily replaceable, and as mentioned the difference between Celebrini and #10 is astronomical.
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We might draft 6th… we don’t know. And how much more would it be to move to 4th? I’d rather trade up, keep Hutson and build from there.

I guess it depends on how much you value Huston. You say he’s a wildcard. I don’t think he’s the boom/bust you do. I think he’s going to be a stud. Guess we’ll see.
 
Lafleurs Guy said:
If you’re looking at things in a vaccum… sure. But there’s no way Hutson goes 62nd in a redraft. The guys’d really good.

Straight up - yeah, there’s less risk with Cellebrini and everyone would do that. But Beck and our first? It’s just too rich.
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It really isn't unless we get like the 2nd OA, but at #10 like the original proposal, it's a no-brainer. Beck really isn't adding much to here, guy could end up being another Ryan Poehling or he meets his expectations and becomes a 3C which is fine but insignificant when talking about a player of Celebrini's caliber.
Lafleurs Guy said:
It’s not a quantity for quality deal. It’s quality plus quantity for x.

I get it. Guy’s a stud. But damn, I hate the idea of dealing Hutson to begin with. Add in Beck and a pick? It’s just too much.


We might draft 6th… we don’t know. And how much more would it be to move to 4th? I’d rather trade up, keep Hutson and build from there.

I guess it depends on how much you value Huston. You say he’s a wildcard. I don’t think he’s the boom/bust you do. I think he’s going to be a stud. Guess we’ll see.
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When it's a player of Celebrini's caliber who has a very realistic chance of becoming a star 1C playing in all situations, assets like Beck are considered quantity.

I'm a massive Hutson fan and as mentioned was furious that we didn't take him earlier. I wouldn't have forgiven the team if we passed up on him again. That being said, I'm not going to pretend that he's the 2nd Quinn Hughes in the making. He could very well be a top 4 dman who you primarily play on the PP which is still an excellent player, but not someone that is an untouchable. I do think he will be more of a Brandon Montour type rather than a Quinn Hughes type like many here believe.

I just value Celebrini way more than you do. Guy is pretty much a lock to score 80+ points a year while being a very good PKer. You win cups with guys like that.
 
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The Great Weal said:
It really isn't unless we get like the 2nd OA, but at #10 like the original proposal, it's a no-brainer. Beck really isn't adding much to here, guy could end up being another Ryan Poehling or he meets his expectations and becomes a 3C which is fine but insignificant when talking about a player of Celebrini's caliber.

When it's a player of Celebrini's caliber who has a very realistic chance of becoming a star 1C playing in all situations, assets like Beck are considered quantity.

I'm a massive Hutson fan and as mentioned was furious that we didn't take him earlier. I wouldn't have forgiven the team if we passed up on him again. That being said, I'm not going to pretend that he's the 2nd Quinn Hughes in the making. He could very well be a top 4 dman who you primarily play on the PP which is still an excellent player, but not someone that is an untouchable. I do think he will be more of a Brandon Montour type rather than a Quinn Hughes type like many here believe.

I just value Celebrini way more than you do. Guy is pretty much a lock to score 80+ points a year while being a very good PKer. You win cups with guys like that.
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I’m okay with Beck being seen as quantity.Hutson? No. Our first? No.

Like I said, I’m sure Cellebrini will deliver and be great. But I believe in Hutson so we’re giving back a stud ++. I wouldn’t do it, esp if that pick is a little higher, say 6th, 7th…
 
Lafleurs Guy said:
It's going to be really interesting to see how he's used at the NHL level. In college he's really a rover sometimes... all over the ice. I could see a coach reigning him in and playing a more traditional game. His first coach will be important into seeing what kind of player he becomes.

If it were MSL or an MSL type, I could see them telling him to play a more traditional game to start and then maybe freewheel a little more as he gains confidence. But a more conservative coach probably wouldn't let him do what he does in college. He plays a very non-traditional brand of D to say the least.
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From what I've seen of St-Louis's system, he has no issue letting the defense activate. That's good, because I want Lane Hutson to be Lane Hutson, not Jordan Harris.
 
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I must admit that I am intrigued by this prospect .He has obvious offensive talent and skill but how will his game translate whence in the show with less time and space and much more fierce competition. Will his lack of size and strength be an obstacle to which he can not overcome being a negative defensively or will it suffice to justify regular deployment and hence be a positive contributor. Of course no one knows this until the time is upon us and that time is quickly approaching, can't wait to see how it all turns out.
 
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Lafleurs Guy said:
Cellebrini is at 1.67. :laugh: Hutson isn’t far off.
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I've watched most of their games this season and I can tell you, on the PP, the driver of the PP is Hutson by a mile. Celebrini is more the one timer guy in the right faceoff circle. But the one driving the show and pace of the PP is Hutson.

5 on 5 is a different matter, Celebrini is very aggressive with the Terriers while Hutson is more shift to shift, reading the situation and the game context. If they need a goal he is on the ice every other shift and he is driving the show as well.
 
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