Lane Hutson Burgeoning Star Watch

Beendair Donedat

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i have not said a single thing about hutson and his game. i only talked about the perception of habs fans.
So just call it what it is, you’re just here bashing Habs fans, none of whom have made the ridiculous claims that you’ve posted this far.

He’s an exciting young player. We don’t have a lot of those playing on the roster (unfortunately). Nobody thinks he’s Bobby Orr, or whomever. He’s Lane Hutson. We’re happy to have him. We hope he wins the Calder, but we hope that about any of our rookies. Seems like you’re just here trolling to antagonize.
 

SannywithoutCompy

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He threw it on the defender's stick when he ran out of room after doing nothing.

The highlights of him are a lot of the same, skating a lot, and doing nothing.

Use whatever words you want, I am not here to police it.

I can still point out when you are speaking and acting like a child, this post is another example.



Latch on to the 2 meters of difference from the corner to the half-wall if it makes you feel better, but this is a normal play from him, and somehow he is getting hype because he does a lot of head fakes.

This is a normal result, skate to open ice, turn it over.
You were put down, in the future please refrain from discussing subjects you have no education in
 

The Gr8 Dane

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What a shocker , the guy who's username is notbiased is indeed , incredibly biased!

You're literally highlighting a video of someone throwing the puck on net and claiming it's something completely different. I'd rather use a word you don't like than highlight my need for anti psychotics in front of a public audience.
He could have just called it a turnover instead of doubling down on his whole going in the corner doing nothing shtick
 
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Voodoo Child

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I like his poise with the puck and audacity to go for the big play, Habs did good getting him.
 

bud12

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Relative to his terrible team... it doesn't mean he's been good
You should just stick to your leafs because your hate is clearly showing. Shitting on a 20y old kid who just played 30+min, have 4pts in 5games, create plenty of scoring chances and lead the entire league in puck possesion and near the top with zone entry and slot passes doesn't make you look like a genius.
 

Zalos

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I'm sorry, but anyone who has watched all of his games so far this year will tell you that he's been great.

He played thirty minutes last night! He attempted multiple rushes to try and get the team going, but sometimes it just felt like he was the only one giving a shit. He is a very smart player, but even those can make mistakes, especially as a rookie on the blueline.

As for the +/-, how convenient for people to bring up this mostly pointless stat when it helps their narrative. The only case where I would give some credence to +/- is when a player has like a -20 on a great team or a +20 on a shit team.
 

TheDoldrums

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lead the entire league in puck possesion

I had literally never heard anyone care about this "stat" until about 5 games ago. For most people the idea of "possession" metrics are the percentage of shot attempts in your teams favour while on the ice, not literally how many seconds the puck is on your stick. Because the former can actually tell you something about effectiveness and the latter cannot.
 

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I had literally never heard anyone care about this "stat" until about 5 games ago. For most people the idea of "possession" metrics are the percentage of shot attempts in your teams favour while on the ice, not literally how many seconds the puck is on your stick. Because the former can actually tell you something about effectiveness and the latter cannot.
Quinn Hughes was the leader in this metric by a long shot last year. Lots of people mentioned it then.
 

Sasha Orlov

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I had literally never heard anyone care about this "stat" until about 5 games ago. For most people the idea of "possession" metrics are the percentage of shot attempts in your teams favour while on the ice, not literally how many seconds the puck is on your stick. Because the former can actually tell you something about effectiveness and the latter cannot.
It’s funny because a quick search of “possession” with your username turns up a LOT of results where you seemed to really care about it
 

Breakers

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Wait till the 15 game mark for some underlying numbers
They should elite transition numbers and zone entries

But I will say for underlying numbers Suzuki is the on the ice for a F-load of dangerous scoring chances against so far. Like DAMN.
 

Quinning

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I think a lot of people are getting ahead of themselves with Hutson. He's got plenty of potential for sure, but projecting him to have a similar development path as Hughes at this level is a bit far.

Just because Hughes figured out how to defend doesn't mean every other prospect on the earth can figure out how to defend. The deck was stacked up against Hughes as well on learning to defend well. That's why defenders like that are so rare and the best in the league.

For Hutson to get in the same category he needs to figure out how to defend.

Hughes' rookie year he was 29th in xGF% amongst defenders played more than 1000 ES minutes
Hutson's first few games this year he is 128th out of 149th in xGF% amongst defenders with 50 ES minutes. Let's see those numbers turn around before we compare him to Hughes. He's got plenty of more games to play.

Hughes got so much shit during his sophomore year. Some of it was deserved - he really struggled in his own end for a while.

Definitely an extremely rare case of a player turning a weakness into a clear strength.
 
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PeE eL DuBoiS

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Like his confidence. He could be a real good defenseman in the future. You can't teach the smarts he has.
 

TheDoldrums

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You're either new to hockey or not capable of paying attention.

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Seems like you decide what “possession” means to you based on whether the stats support your narrative

Yes it’s just me. I’ve also used my influence to get google to show you a bunch of articles and images about Corsi when you search for possession stats.
 
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notbias

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You should just stick to your leafs because your hate is clearly showing. Shitting on a 20y old kid who just played 30+min, have 4pts in 5games, create plenty of scoring chances and lead the entire league in puck possesion and near the top with zone entry and slot passes doesn't make you look like a genius.

It is funny that every single person is attacking me and not the posts I made.

I think I may be right and there are some super insecure Habs fans here.

I am not shitting on him by the way, I've said many times that he hasn't been super effective but will when he figures out the NHL game, this is just saying he is raw and makes bad decisions currently but this is likely to change.

Habs fans just can't seem to see clearly, maybe it is the tears from Laine getting injured, not sure, but something is blocking their vision.

This whole thread summed up so far:

"Hutson has not been as effective as people are saying, here are the stats and clips to prove it." - Hockey fan

"Nuh uh, you're dumb." - Habs fan
 

SannywithoutCompy

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It is funny that every single person is attacking me and not the posts I made.

I think I may be right and there are some super insecure Habs fans here.

I am not shitting on him by the way, I've said many times that he hasn't been super effective but will when he figures out the NHL game, this is just saying he is raw and makes bad decisions currently but this is likely to change.

Habs fans just can't seem to see clearly, maybe it is the tears from Laine getting injured, not sure, but something is blocking their vision.

This whole thread summed up so far:

"Hutson has not been as effective as people are saying, here are the stats and clips to prove it" - Hockey fan

"Nuh uh" - Habs fan
I think something may be blocking yours given that you've been nothing but wrong so far. He's made great decisions with the puck, is a breakout machine, and has set up numerous scoring chances.

It feels like you're picking things at random to criticize him for, which are a result of not actually watching him (given that anyone who did watch him would notice that each criticism you've made is in fact a strength of his thus far).
 
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notbias

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I think something may be blocking yours given that you've been nothing but wrong so far. He's made great decisions with the puck, is a breakout machine, and has set up numerous scoring chances.

It feels like you're picking things at random to criticize him for, which are a result of not actually watching him (given that anyone who did watch him would notice that each criticism you've made is in fact a strength of his thus far).

Has his team been winning or losing when he is on the ice?

I've seen 50% of the games he's played (including preseason).

Watching AHL hockey is not my favourite thing to do so I generally choose other teams to follow.

And once again, your argument is "nuh uh"... it is compelling.
 

SannywithoutCompy

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Has his team been winning or losing when he is on the ice?

I've seen 50% of the games he's played (including preseason).

Watching AHL hockey is not my favourite thing to do so I generally choose other teams to follow.

And once again, your argument is "nuh uh"... it is compelling.
I must have forgotten that he plays as a single player against the other team, great point. Not like he's playing with other players who are having varying degrees of success (mostly none) on the ice.

My argument isn't "nuh uh" but if it was, it would still be a superior argument to yours, which is just consistently making incorrect statements.
 
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Zalos

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Habs fans just can't seem to see clearly, maybe it is the tears from Laine getting injured, not sure, but something is blocking their vision.
I don't agree with most of what you have been saying, but this was a funny one. :laugh:
 

Xirik

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possession really only matters if its in the opponents zone and if it leads to a dangerous shot on net. If the player is doing laps around the perimeter and takes a blocked shot then it's a meh.

If one player has possession of the puck going up the ice a lot that tells me more about the team surrounding him more then the player itself.
 

Zalos

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possession really only matters if its in the opponents zone and if it leads to a dangerous shot on net. If the player is doing laps around the perimeter and takes a blocked shot then it's a meh.

If one player has possession of the puck going up the ice a lot that tells me more about the team surrounding him more then the player itself.
Don't mind the people bringing those stats up. You can't judge him based on stats this early on in his career and on a bottom feeder team.

Just watch a few games of Hutson in the future and focus on him. There's not many players in the league who play like he does, especially on D. He creates a lot of offensive chances. There's no way that anyone who isn't already incredibly biased against him would deny that he's special after an eye test.

I can only imagine him on a high-octane team.
 

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