Michkov was the miss, Reinbacher is still trending as a very useful player and perhaps the more important one in the playoffs.
Lane Hutson Burgeoning Star Watch
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CanadienShark
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Goodness gracious. Could you be any more obvious that you aren't watching without explicitly saying: "I have no idea what I'm spouting"?
CanadienShark
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He's made Tkachuk look silly more than once. That's not nothing.
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I think a lot of people are getting ahead of themselves with Hutson. He's got plenty of potential for sure, but projecting him to have a similar development path as Hughes at this level is a bit far.
Just because Hughes figured out how to defend doesn't mean every other prospect on the earth can figure out how to defend. The deck was stacked up against Hughes as well on learning to defend well. That's why defenders like that are so rare and the best in the league.
For Hutson to get in the same category he needs to figure out how to defend.
Hughes' rookie year he was 29th in xGF% amongst defenders played more than 1000 ES minutes
Hutson's first few games this year he is 128th out of 149th in xGF% amongst defenders with 50 ES minutes. Let's see those numbers turn around before we compare him to Hughes. He's got plenty of more games to play.
Just because Hughes figured out how to defend doesn't mean every other prospect on the earth can figure out how to defend. The deck was stacked up against Hughes as well on learning to defend well. That's why defenders like that are so rare and the best in the league.
For Hutson to get in the same category he needs to figure out how to defend.
Hughes' rookie year he was 29th in xGF% amongst defenders played more than 1000 ES minutes
Hutson's first few games this year he is 128th out of 149th in xGF% amongst defenders with 50 ES minutes. Let's see those numbers turn around before we compare him to Hughes. He's got plenty of more games to play.
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You don't have access to video in your world?It must be nice living in your little fantasy world
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Come in a thread about Lane Hutson then complain people talk too much about Lane Hutson.
HFRetards.
HFRetards.
you know what my problem is with this story line.
last year habs fans where telling me that suzuki is a top15 bordering top10 center in the league. others claimed that dach will pass him soon as the habs #1 center. you guys told us that slafkovsky is on a way way better trajectory than lafreniere and will be the better player this or next year for sure. we had trade proposal over the summer to add more win now pieces to the habs because the rebuild is over and the contention window is about to open.
and now? all those other story lines and players get thrown under the lane hutson hype train. sacrificed for the good of the shiny new toy.
how can a reader on this board take habs fans argumentation seriously with this context? i simply can't.
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You realize its 5 games in and players can have slow starts to the season? Or do you seriously believe Suzuki and Dach are 0 goalscorers?
I'm a huge fan of Quinn, but his first year, he was paired with Chris Tanev- one of the best defensive defenseman in the league. His on ice numbers dropped big time the year after when Tanev left.
He's a very good defensive player now as he's continued to develop, but those numbers his rookie year were heavily inflated by his partner. Lane doesn't have anyone close to that level to insulate him and comparing their flat numbers isn't fair at all.
what you just said about suzuki and dach also applies to hutson. he is not guaranteed to keep his good performances of the first 5 games for the entire season.
I'm sure it's been posted in here, but it's hard to get an accurate reading of a guy's defensive ability when his entire team is getting cratered. Nick Suzuki, who is supposed to be one of the best two way players on the team, has an xgf% of twenty six right now. Lane's two way metrics aren't good right now, but they're some of the best on Montreal.
With a player like Hutson who is a kind of unique player, during his rookie year the important thing is whether or not he can play his own game in the show. Thus far he's been able to do that, which is a great sign.
With a player like Hutson who is a kind of unique player, during his rookie year the important thing is whether or not he can play his own game in the show. Thus far he's been able to do that, which is a great sign.
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Chances are pretty good that a player did not peak in his first 7 career nhl games.
He's a rookie, so obviously there will be ups and downs during the season.
Judging by all your negative posts in this thread, looks like Hutson lives rent free in your head...
i have not said a single thing about hutson and his game. i only talked about the perception of habs fans.
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KirkAlbuquerque
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Habs fans are a unique breed. Equal parts obnoxious and endearing.
SannywithoutCompy
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Weird, must have missed the Bobby Orr comparison there. Unless you're seeing things that aren't there or hearing the voices of Habs fans in your head, in which case I'd recommend Thorazine.
Listen to the cheering for him turning the puck over after skating to open space... it is a dark time for Habs fans, I understand, but the hyping of him is hilarious.
Might want to look up what hyperbole is too.
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You mean the cheering that happens after he makes the deke and dies down by the time he releases the puck?
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This guy is too much fun to watch. Yes, he makes a lot of mistakes and is very weak defensively but those two faults are easily outweighed by how electric he is with puck on stick. Sure that’s only 5% of his time on ice, but it’s a fantastic 5%.
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Maybe if he played in New York it would make sense
I never said it was. Guhle and Hutson are the only two D playing good hockey right now.
Both can be true even thought they are having a bad start. Lafreniere only really started to be dominent in the back half of his +4 season while Slaf did it in the back half of his D+2 season.
I’m not sure what we’re arguing here on Suzuki. He’s a top 15 C in the league. Even if you hate the player or the team he play with, you can’t deny his accomplishments.
No one is changing narratives. Both can still be true while praising Hutson. I mean, it’s not only Habs fans that has been praising him, it’s also the media (even Toronto’s media), players, coaches and opposing team coaches.
Not many D can come into the league and dominate right away. Hughes, Faber and Makar are the only ones that comes to mind in the past decade who has been able to do that. So when someone new comes in and do it, it’s only normal that the hype machine gets going, regardless of who the player play for.
He is not. No one said he was guaranteed. He’s 20, so bad stretches and bad games are expected but the chances that he does keep his pace through the year are much higher than the chances that he doesn’t. A player with this talent level usually doesn’t just fade away.
