Confirmed Trade: [LAK/WPG] Pierre-Luc Dubois (signs 8 years, $8.5M AAV) for Gabe Vilardi, Alex Iafallo, Rasmus Kupari, 2024 2nd round pick

[Frank Drebin]

Kings fans are the real victims here

 

[TS Quint]

Low ball offers were on the basis that PLD wasn't a must-have for the Habs. They made a significant trade for Dach the season prior and Dach made good strides as a result. The price that LA paid for Dubois was well outside what the Habs were willing to pay, and for good reason.

Its not rocket science. People acting like PLD was a must-have acquisition for the Habs do not understand the Habs rebuild.

Whatever you need to tell yourself. It's plastered all over multiple threads that Habs fans were convinced they could wait a year and get him for free.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Whatever you need to tell yourself.

My opinion has been consistent from the start. I was hoping PLD would not be a Hab. Do a search and educate yourself on all the reasons why the Habs made the right choice. (or thankfully LA made it for them).

 

[Gabe Kupari]

It's the year 2050 and pld still not a hab. Lock it up

 

[Guffman]

Can the Mods just please kill this thread and put it, and us out of our misery already.

Pro Tip:

Beside every thread title, to the right, is a word “ignore”. If you don’t want to see a thread, click “ignore”. It’s really not that hard.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Kings fans are the real victims here

I thought I looked both ways before crossing the street, but turns out it was gang territory

 

[SlafySZN]

You can't be so self centered that you think youcan control what people want to talk about on the main boards. But keep up the PLD/Jets angry stalking. It's completely misplaced anger.

Sounds like you believe Hughes went on full tilt if you think Hughes believes Newhook is near PLD value. A complete panic move similar to the Dvorak trade.

Newhook has nothing to do with PLD. Kent Hughes has been saying for more than a year that they wanted to acquire some young players, that’s what they did 2 off-seasons in a row.

Just because the fans and media talked about PLD doesn’t mean the habs actually wanted the guy. They’re in a rebuild.

 

[Maple Leaf]

Too much $

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Whatever you need to tell yourself. It's plastered all over multiple threads that Habs fans were convinced they could wait a year and get him for free.

[mod] There were a few that were sure he was going to go to UFA. Most were not convinced but were only interestd in Dubois because of the possibilty of acquiring a cheap asset by trade or a free asset as a UFA. Obviously there was no chance of trading for him if futurees were of no interest and it was open to any other bidders.

 

[Voight]

Newhook has nothing to do with PLD. Kent Hughes has been saying for more than a year that they wanted to acquire some young players, that’s what they did 2 off-seasons in a row.

Just because the fans and media talked about PLD doesn’t mean the habs actually wanted the guy. They’re in a rebuild.

PLD is only a year older than Suzuki, its not like hes in his early 30s and at the tail end of his prime.

Well never know but I'd be willing to bet they had a lot of interest in acquiring him. Not only is he a local product but hes a young top 6 C entering his prime. Time will tell if he develops into a bonafide 1st line centre but as of now he and Suzuki are at the same level.

 

[tkb81]

Kings fans are the real victims here

your right .. this is a train wreck of a thread .. but im so hockey starved that i read every word .. haha

 

[Guffman]

Just because the fans and media talked about PLD doesn’t mean the habs actually wanted the guy. They’re in a rebuild.

The media insiders were floating that the Habs were still interested if LA couldn’t close the deal.

 

[sansabri]

PLD is only a year older than Suzuki, its not like hes in his early 30s and at the tail end of his prime.

Well never know but I'd be willing to bet they had a lot of interest in acquiring him. Not only is he a local product but hes a young top 6 C entering his prime. Time will tell if he develops into a bonafide 1st line centre but as of now he and Suzuki are at the same level.

lol no

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Newhook has nothing to do with PLD. Kent Hughes has been saying for more than a year that they wanted to acquire some young players, that’s what they did 2 off-seasons in a row.

Just because the fans and media talked about PLD doesn’t mean the habs actually wanted the guy. They’re in a rebuild.

The last sentence is absurd. The Canadiens obviously tried to acquire Dubois. That's not even up for debate.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I would not be surprised if Dubois plays on the wing, especially with Kopitar.
A lot depends on the development of the younger players and how good Kopitar will be next season

Same here. Dubois can play both wing or center and he's the logical one to move to wing vs Danault and Kopitar.

 

[YP44]

Max value?

This deal is basically the same as what Rick Nash returned. A bunch of 2nd / 3rd line players and a pick.

You'd rather have Vilardi and Iafallo making 8 mil than PLD making 8 mil?

I did not say which I would rather have, I am pretty torn though to be honest. I thought LA would have to deal Iafallo, Moore or Arvidsson. But Iafallo was the last guy on that list for me. He makes his team mates better and plays so well defensively that he will be missed. By putting the $8m to one player and not 2 LA now is in a position where they do not even have enough cap to carry healthy scratches.

Vilardi could become more than a 2nd liner, and every article I have read points that Winnipeg did very well on this deal despite being backed into a corner. So it's not like it's just me that thinks that.

This deal can very much work out for both sides, but too soon to tell IMO.

 

[Flair Hay]

Same here. Dubois can play both wing or center and he's the logical one to move to wing vs Danault and Kopitar.

He is very well suited to it for sure. The guy is basically this generation's Bertuzzi and he was groomed as a C for the positional value. But play him as a wing and he can probably play it better than he plays C. Not bad flexibility to have.

 

[nhlfan9191]

PLD is only a year older than Suzuki, its not like hes in his early 30s and at the tail end of his prime.

Well never know but I'd be willing to bet they had a lot of interest in acquiring him. Not only is he a local product but hes a young top 6 C entering his prime. Time will tell if he develops into a bonafide 1st line centre but as of now he and Suzuki are at the same level.

There was interest for sure but I doubt they viewed him as someone who entered his prime. His production the last 5-6 years would lead anyone to believe he plateaued awhile ago and the money and term he wants wasn’t worth it long term.

 

[Habs Halifax]

He is very well suited to it for sure. The guy is basically this generation's Bertuzzi and he was groomed as a C for the positional value. But play him as a wing and he can probably play it better than he plays C. Not bad flexibility to have.

You can never have enough centers IMO. Wingers can't play center but centers can play wing.

 

[Telos]

I can't believe this thread is still going

I think the trade is fair. It seems to be a lot to give up in the aggregate but I honestly think it will work out for both sides, but not as well as both sides hope. I think PLD will be a decent 60-75 point, but mostly 60's, 2nd line center for LA, but he isn't going to be a first-line center option the Kings are hoping he might develop more towards.

I think Iafallo will play like his usual self as a solid third-line option that can sort of step onto the second line every now and then, Kupari will be an okay bottom 6 option and Vilardi will be a decent middle 6 player, but may not become a solid top 6 center of the future or ever on the level his potential could have yielded as a 30g 60 point+ solid producer. I definitely don't think his injury history is behind him.

 

[Johnny HFBOARDS]

It's hard to find players as good as Kopitar. He's a hall of famer.

PLD is a Hall of Famer too!




Ooops I meant Hell of a Framer, draws a lot of penalties for PP opportunities

 

[Surf Nutz]

Playing the Bergevin card on what ended up transpiring.

 

[Rorschach]

What a silly post.

You’re already concluding on the trajectory of Vilardi and Kupari on a team that will give them more opportunities? Calling it a “bunch of 2nd / 3rd lines players” is disingenuous.

It’s more of a middle-sixer that you hope can play a full season and a 4th liner you hope can become top 9.

 

[Lt Dan]

Same here. Dubois can play both wing or center and he's the logical one to move to wing vs Danault and Kopitar.

As a Kings fan, I don't think that'll be the case. Blake only talked about using him and a center and increasing center depth in the post trade interviews

I think they are going to run

Byfield Kopitar Kempe
Fiala PLD Kaliyev/rookie
Moore Danault Arvidsson
JAD/rookie Lizotte Grundstrom/Lewis

 

[Rorschach]

As a Kings fan, I don't think that'll be the case. Blake only talked about using him and a center and increasing center depth in the post trade interviews

I think they are going to run

Byfield Kopitar Kempe
Fiala PLD Kaliyev/rookie
Moore Danault Arvidsson
JAD/rookie Lizotte Grundstrom/Lewis

It's not bad. I think also

Anderson/Doughty
Gavrikov/Clarke (hopefully)
Bjornfot or Spence/Roy