Confirmed Trade: [LAK/WPG] Pierre-Luc Dubois (signs 8 years, $8.5M AAV) for Gabe Vilardi, Alex Iafallo, Rasmus Kupari, 2024 2nd round pick

[Thechozen1]

The new anthem for Caufield and the Montreal Canadiens …..

 

[Thechozen1]

What a beautiful outcome after 2 years of "we can just wait and sign him for free".

RIP to Harris, Beck + 2nd

Dvorak, Harris and a 2nd.

At least they got the Canadiens’ 2nd correct

 

[Atoyot]

Failed the fanbase?

There was a poll on the Habs Board and an overwhelming majority *did not* want the Canadiens to trade for Pierre-Luc Dubois so what you are saying is utter nonsense.

The vast majority of Canadiens fans were *only* interested in Dubois if he reached unrestricted free agency.

Don't mistake a handful of dough-headed Canadiens fans that pollute the main roads with their dim-witted musings as some kind of representation of the fanbase as a whole.

A trade for Dubois was not a popular notion among the fans at all.

I feel like that was probably similar to when my fellow Jets' fans overwhelmingly voted that they wanted to pick Laine over Matthews...after they already knew they had the 2nd pick and Matthews wasn't going to be an option. That's coping. Knowing you're not going to get something and saying "ah well I didn't want it anyways".

 

[HuGo Sham]

The same phenomenon is happening right now in the thread about the Canadiens offer-sheeting Alexis Lafreniere.

One fan is suggesting this as an idea and I haven't seen a single Canadiens fan agreeing with the notion, but the thread is growing and growing as that one fan argues that its worth doing and sure enough other fan bases are talking about his idea as if it represents the collective of the entire fanbase even though literally nobody thinks its a good idea.

it's amazing that a thread, even unpopular, is growing on a team's chat board -with one of the largest fanbases on here. It's almost ....correlative

 

[Maple Leaf]

Too much

 

[Bandit]

LA is becoming a zombie apocalypse shithole so there's that.

You need to find a better news outlet.

 

[Guffman]

Dvorak, Harris and a 2nd.

At least they got the Canadiens’ 2nd correct

I thought it was Dvorak, Kidney and Florida’s 1st (31OA).

I feel like that was probably similar to when my fellow Jets' fans overwhelmingly voted that they wanted to pick Laine over Matthews...after they already knew they had the 2nd pick and Matthews wasn't going to be an option. That's coping. Knowing you're not going to get something and saying "ah well I didn't want it anyways".

Laine made it into a good discussing two years into his career before his video game addiction and ego took over.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Yes, probably skillwise, but pld being the person he is, i think his value goes down.

Personally, I don't see his value going down in his prime years. However, I am a firm believe that talent needs to play with talent so I wonder where the Kings place him and who are his winger. Heck, maybe, he ends up on Kopitar's wing. Do the Kings go 1,2,3 with Kopitar, Dubois, Danault as the 3 centers or does Dubois move to wing? What advancement does Byfield have? Curious to see how that plays out.

Dubois's value is so much more deeper than just points too. If he is only putting up 60 pts but is a physical force that frees up space for his line-mates, fans will attach him because it's only 60 pts. Not how I evaluate players.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I agree with the above and want to add that when the Kings won 2 Cups and contended for another, we fully rolled 4 lines. The teams that also could put out 4 lines, they would skate with us and then it was up to Quick and certain other individuals that made the difference, especially in 2014. When the other team couldn't run 4 lines, including LA in 2013 when Richards got taken out by Bolland, the team that did clearly won the series.

Top heavy teams have done shit in the modern cap era. Even Tampa only won once Brisebois started to trade futures to shore up the bottom half of the line-up.

Of course you need talent and good special teams. But if you have a top heavy team with stars with no cap room for the bottom half, you better have a deep prospect pool that can fill those spots on ELC/Bridge deals. Otherwise, you're GM will be taking fits trying to ice a complete roster. Ask the Leafs and Oilers about that.

 

[Guffman]

Personally, I don't see his value going down in his prime years. However, I am a firm believe that talent needs to play with talent so I wonder where the Kings place him and who are his winger. Heck, maybe, he ends up on Kopitar's wing. Do the Kings go 1,2,3 with Kopitar, Dubois, Danault as the 3 centers or does Dubois move to wing? What advancement does Byfield have? Curious to see how that plays out.

Dubois's value is so much more deeper than just points too. If he is only putting up 60 pts but is a physical force that frees up space for his line-mates, fans will attach him because it's only 60 pts. Not how I evaluate players.

So much value that you thought trading Dvorak, Kidney and 31 OA was fair value LMAO.

This guy, honestly.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

So much value that you thought trading Dvorak, Kidney and 31 OA was fair value LMAO.

This guy, honestly.

Why do you take it so personally that that was the offer Habs fans wanted to part with and nothing more? I mean that was always the max we were gonna pay for him it's not the big deal your making it out to be lmao

 

[Frank Drebin]

This thread needs to die

 

[SaltyElkHunter]

Habs fans acting like the chick who rejected them won prom queen.

 

[Guffman]

Why do you take it so personally that that was the offer Habs fans wanted to part with and nothing more? I mean that was always the max we were gonna pay for him it's not the big deal your making it out to be lmao

It just showed your fan base ignorance thinking that those low ball offers had a reasonable chance of acceptance.

Why sulk afterwards when accountability rears its head?

This thread needs to die

You can ignore a thread so it doesn’t show up anymore. Of course, I will be happy to remind you of your transgressions in other future threads.

 

[japhi]

You make it seem like the Habs were barely interested. Funny how that idiot LeBrun‘s inside knowledge ran out when Hughes realized he didnt have the currency to get the trade done. Hughes wanted PLD bad And was hyping up the fan base for the good ole Quebec boy to come home but unfortunately he failed the fan base.

That is some solid logic you have going there. Hughes wanted him so bad that he made a crappy offer. Totally makes sense pal, you are really on to something here, keep on this!

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

So much value that you thought trading Dvorak, Kidney and 31 OA was fair value LMAO.

This guy, honestly.

It is irrelevant what he was worth. How many times does it have to be said. Habs weren't going to offer fair value as they were the only one bidding If they weren't then they weren't interested. As it turns out LA was the only team on the table and they got suckered into overpaying.

 

[Guffman]

It is irrelevant what he was worth. How many times does it have to be said. Habs weren't going to offer fair value as they were the only one bidding If they weren't then they weren't interested. As it turns out LA was the only team on the table and they got suckered into overpaying.

It’s honestly not a hard concept that your drivel offers needed to at least match a TDL compensation deal, where there would have been plenty of suitors.

 

[Osprey]

So much value that you thought trading Dvorak, Kidney and 31 OA was fair value LMAO.

This guy, honestly.

Wow. I knew that Habs fans wanted Dubois, but I had no idea that they were willing to trade a Kidney for him.

 

[Buffdog]

Why do you take it so personally that that was the offer Habs fans wanted to part with and nothing more? I mean that was always the max we were gonna pay for him it's not the big deal your making it out to be lmao

Then all y'all should have ducked out of the threads when informed that deal wouldn't cut it. Instead it was 100s of posts of justifications and "you'll see's"

 

[Frolov 6'3]

It is irrelevant what he was worth. How many times does it have to be said. Habs weren't going to offer fair value as they were the only one bidding If they weren't then they weren't interested. As it turns out LA was the only team on the table and they got suckered into overpaying.

Futures.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

This entire thing is very easy to summarize:

- Dubois only wanted a couple of markets, which included LA and Montreal. He would have signed 8 years with either.
- LA could offer present, Montreal futures.
- Winnipeg took the present.

This entire trade was decided by what direction they wanted to take.

That's it.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Habs thread & poll in question that so many are referencing.

Post-Game Talk: - ITS OVER- Did we make a huge mistake on Pierre-Luc Dubois Thread?

That Huberdeau/PLD soon-to-be Habs dynamic duo is looking real good right now eh? :laugh: Who's next in line I need some names to fill in the blanks in my 2024/2025 pipe dream lineup. I cannot wait to get them for half the price in three years after they would have bombed.

forums.hfboards.com

Summary:

83.5% (513 voters) wanted PLD

34.5% (212 voters) were willing to do a trade for him

49% (301 voters) wanted to sign him as a UFA only

16.4% (101 voters) Didn't want him in anyway

Total of 614 voters

The thread was closed not long after the trade to LA.

There's a massive difference between all these options and I was one of the few who was willing to trade for him.

The truth is the overwhelming sentiment on this board is that most did not want him at anything other than bargain price. He wasn't a popular get.

 

[Soapdodger]

Personally, I don't see his value going down in his prime years. However, I am a firm believe that talent needs to play with talent so I wonder where the Kings place him and who are his winger. Heck, maybe, he ends up on Kopitar's wing. Do the Kings go 1,2,3 with Kopitar, Dubois, Danault as the 3 centers or does Dubois move to wing? What advancement does Byfield have? Curious to see how that plays out.

Dubois's value is so much more deeper than just points too. If he is only putting up 60 pts but is a physical force that frees up space for his line-mates, fans will attach him because it's only 60 pts. Not how I evaluate players.

I would not be surprised if Dubois plays on the wing, especially with Kopitar.
A lot depends on the development of the younger players and how good Kopitar will be next season

 

[nhlfan9191]

It is irrelevant what he was worth. How many times does it have to be said. Habs weren't going to offer fair value as they were the only one bidding If they weren't then they weren't interested. As it turns out LA was the only team on the table and they got suckered into overpaying.

I don’t see how some people still don’t see that. It doesn’t sound like there was a bidding war at all. It was going to take a team to outbid Montreal. The bar clearly wasn’t set high. LA came in and did that and Habs said fine and moved on. PLD’s contract demands on top of Winnipeg’s ask made it an easy pass.

 

[habsfan44]

Habs thread & poll in question that so many are referencing.

Post-Game Talk: - ITS OVER- Did we make a huge mistake on Pierre-Luc Dubois Thread?

That Huberdeau/PLD soon-to-be Habs dynamic duo is looking real good right now eh? :laugh: Who's next in line I need some names to fill in the blanks in my 2024/2025 pipe dream lineup. I cannot wait to get them for half the price in three years after they would have bombed.

forums.hfboards.com

Summary:

83.5% (513 voters) wanted PLD

34.5% (212 voters) were willing to do a trade for him

49% (301 voters) wanted to sign him as a UFA only

16.4% (101 voters) Didn't want him in anyway

Total of 614 voters

The thread was closed not long after the trade to

Habs thread & poll in question that so many are referencing.

Post-Game Talk: - ITS OVER- Did we make a huge mistake on Pierre-Luc Dubois Thread?

That Huberdeau/PLD soon-to-be Habs dynamic duo is looking real good right now eh? :laugh: Who's next in line I need some names to fill in the blanks in my 2024/2025 pipe dream lineup. I cannot wait to get them for half the price in three years after they would have bombed.

forums.hfboards.com

Summary:

83.5% (513 voters) wanted PLD

34.5% (212 voters) were willing to do a trade for him

49% (301 voters) wanted to sign him as a UFA only

16.4% (101 voters) Didn't want him in anyway

Total of 614 voters

The thread was closed not long after the trade to LA.

Proud to say that I'm part of the 16.4% !