Confirmed Trade: [LAK/WPG] Pierre-Luc Dubois (signs 8 years, $8.5M AAV) for Gabe Vilardi, Alex Iafallo, Rasmus Kupari, 2024 2nd round pick

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How come some LA fans are saying they would have preferred Byfield over Kupari

Is Kupari that good?
Or Byfield that disappointing?
 

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Impartial fan but I can see the Kings actually getting past the Oilers next playoffs, barring any moves from Edmonton. I like how LA is constructing itself in the shorter term.
Yes, they are a tough out for sure. But this move is not a good move for the kings. PLD has no compete, kopitar and doughty are rapidly aging and who is their goalie?
Well, congrats to LA. It seems like a good price for PLD.

Montreal is involved in nearly every rumour, no gonna lose sleep over that :D

We got our own PLD in.... Newhook haha
 

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Not bad for a team that had no leverage, eh Habs fans?

Context spins. Habs leverage faded away when Brisson/Dubois opened up their list of teams to 5 or 6. Don't be so salty with your belittle narrative that is basically a spin on things. Different context before and after the news of Dubois being open to 5 or 6 teams.

Lets see how it plays out over the long haul. What you got vs the many different futures packages the Habs offered. Remember Caufield and 1st for Laine? You going to tell me Vilardi is better than Caufield now? Lets see how guys like Beck, Kidney, Barron, Mesar, Panthers 1st ends up
 

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The comments here are something else, you would think two players are being traded for each other and one is 33 and the other is 21.

All this untapped and amazing upside of 24 year old Vilardi doesn’t exist with 25 year old PLD.
Vilardi has heart and drive. PLD has shown neither for longer.
 

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How come some LA fans are saying they would have preferred Byfield over Kupari

Is Kupari that good?
Or Byfield that disappointing?
Us kings fans are malcontents....Byfield appears to maybe be a bust and some on our board are already talking rebuild.
 
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How come some LA fans are saying they would have preferred Byfield over Kupari

Is Kupari that good?
Or Byfield that disappointing?
Fans just being dumb.

Some of our phones are butt hurt we didn’t drop Stutzle They may be right about that, but they’re taking their frustrations out on Byfield. But I feel came back from injury last year and took a big leap. At 20 years old I think he takes another massive leap this year. Unfortunately, he’s not gonna score. 90 points like Stützle so people will be mad at him.
 

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Your arguments in here have been universally awful :laugh:

I mean if you're happy about paying a 2C 1C money, go for it I guess. I'm sure as hell glad my team isn't doing that.
How is it flawed you used points to justify his place as a 1C. I countered that argument. Not my fault you used a flawed arguement and it went against you. Suck it up buttercup.

Not my team paying. 8.5 for a top tier 2C will seem cheap by next off season. wait until guys like Aho get their new deals.
 

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Danault was already taking the other teams' top centers. This does not change it.

The Kings could win a cup with Byfield at 2/3C, if he continues his improvement, and someone like Nic Dowd as the 4th C. That is a cheap addition leaving assets and cap room to fix other holes.

PLD will likely lead the team in penalties by a lot and the Kings need people to kill them. The Kings traded two of their penalty killers, including a center. It compounds an existing problem.
Dubois draws way more penalties than he takes. When he goes to the box somebody usually goes with him.
 
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Here's an idea... why not let the offensive minded forward play offense? I know as a Habs fan you're probably used to the mentality that all forwards should be able to play shut down defense. It's why we've been trash for so long and so has our player development. Let PLD do his thing. They have Danault and other guys that can play shut down
Too bad McLellan is the coach. I actually think the Kings have more offensive talent than people think. But McLellan would rather play the 1-3-1 all the time.
 

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How is it flawed you used points to justify his place as a 1C. I countered that argument. Not my fault you used a flawed arguement and it went against you. Suck it up buttercup.

Not my team paying. 8.5 for a top tier 2C will seem cheap by next off season. wait until guys like Aho get their new deals.

Your "counter" argument was saying that Zibanejad was a 4C because he'd be the 4C on Edmonton, which makes literally no sense.

$8.5 million is still 1C money. Dubois is only worth like $7 million a year, he's getting a good bit overpaid by LA here.
 

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I’ve been reading comments in this thread and the Kings forum and my guess would be that many Kings fans would believe this.

As crazy as it sounds.

:facepalm:.

I was hoping for the Habs to have that leverage but once Dubois opened up to 5 or 6 teams, it went away. Our message was consistent, we were interested but not desperate.

For the Kings and Jets. Hope it works out for both sides. All I will say is I will evaluate the futures packages towards what the Jets got but we can only do that in 3+ years when guys like Beck, Barron, Mesar, Kidney, and Panthers 1st is older. I guess we will see how bad or good the Habs offer was then.

Vilardi to me is like Newhook. Middle 6F types who do have room to grow. Vilardi vs Caufield? I think most take Caufield's goal scoring power
 
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