Confirmed Trade: [LAK/WPG] Pierre-Luc Dubois (signs 8 years, $8.5M AAV) for Gabe Vilardi, Alex Iafallo, Rasmus Kupari, 2024 2nd round pick

[MasterMatt25]

TSN just had a tweet saying deal is done

 

[Breakers]

How come some LA fans are saying they would have preferred Byfield over Kupari

Is Kupari that good?
Or Byfield that disappointing?

 

[spot]

Impartial fan but I can see the Kings actually getting past the Oilers next playoffs, barring any moves from Edmonton. I like how LA is constructing itself in the shorter term.

Yes, they are a tough out for sure. But this move is not a good move for the kings. PLD has no compete, kopitar and doughty are rapidly aging and who is their goalie?

Well, congrats to LA. It seems like a good price for PLD.

Montreal is involved in nearly every rumour, no gonna lose sleep over that

We got our own PLD in.... Newhook haha

 

[heilongjetsfan]

You do, his name is Dach. Vilardi is a center that was moved to and also plays wing.

Yeah, Kirby the Untouchable. I would have valued him lower than Vilardi and accordingly asked for more with him. Plus they wanted to throw in Anderson. Bullet dodged, imo

 

[Habs Halifax]

Not bad for a team that had no leverage, eh Habs fans?

Context spins. Habs leverage faded away when Brisson/Dubois opened up their list of teams to 5 or 6. Don't be so salty with your belittle narrative that is basically a spin on things. Different context before and after the news of Dubois being open to 5 or 6 teams.

Lets see how it plays out over the long haul. What you got vs the many different futures packages the Habs offered. Remember Caufield and 1st for Laine? You going to tell me Vilardi is better than Caufield now? Lets see how guys like Beck, Kidney, Barron, Mesar, Panthers 1st ends up

 

[Bandit]

The comments here are something else, you would think two players are being traded for each other and one is 33 and the other is 21.

All this untapped and amazing upside of 24 year old Vilardi doesn’t exist with 25 year old PLD.

Vilardi has heart and drive. PLD has shown neither for longer.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

I remember a certain GM who did this

Yeah, you’re not wrong there lol.

It’s a risk you gotta take, the ball is in the player’s court though. $8.5 mil for great 2C/borderline 1C should be the norm.

 

[Gjwrams]

How come some LA fans are saying they would have preferred Byfield over Kupari

Is Kupari that good?
Or Byfield that disappointing?

Us kings fans are malcontents....Byfield appears to maybe be a bust and some on our board are already talking rebuild.

 

[funky]

How come some LA fans are saying they would have preferred Byfield over Kupari

Is Kupari that good?
Or Byfield that disappointing?

Fans just being dumb.

Some of our phones are butt hurt we didn’t drop Stutzle They may be right about that, but they’re taking their frustrations out on Byfield. But I feel came back from injury last year and took a big leap. At 20 years old I think he takes another massive leap this year. Unfortunately, he’s not gonna score. 90 points like Stützle so people will be mad at him.

 

[BobClarkesfrontteeth]

Your arguments in here have been universally awful

I mean if you're happy about paying a 2C 1C money, go for it I guess. I'm sure as hell glad my team isn't doing that.

How is it flawed you used points to justify his place as a 1C. I countered that argument. Not my fault you used a flawed arguement and it went against you. Suck it up buttercup.

Not my team paying. 8.5 for a top tier 2C will seem cheap by next off season. wait until guys like Aho get their new deals.

 

[Atoyot]

Danault was already taking the other teams' top centers. This does not change it.

The Kings could win a cup with Byfield at 2/3C, if he continues his improvement, and someone like Nic Dowd as the 4th C. That is a cheap addition leaving assets and cap room to fix other holes.

PLD will likely lead the team in penalties by a lot and the Kings need people to kill them. The Kings traded two of their penalty killers, including a center. It compounds an existing problem.

Dubois draws way more penalties than he takes. When he goes to the box somebody usually goes with him.

 

[kinghock]

I’m so incredibly happy as an Oiler fan. Kings got worse and spread cancer throughout their team

Good to hear it from person who really knows about cancers throughout their team.
How many of those you have in Edmonton?
Just asking.

 

[FlameChampion]

Here's an idea... why not let the offensive minded forward play offense? I know as a Habs fan you're probably used to the mentality that all forwards should be able to play shut down defense. It's why we've been trash for so long and so has our player development. Let PLD do his thing. They have Danault and other guys that can play shut down

Too bad McLellan is the coach. I actually think the Kings have more offensive talent than people think. But McLellan would rather play the 1-3-1 all the time.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Yeah, Kirby the Untouchable. I would have valued him lower than Vilardi and accordingly asked for more with him. Plus they wanted to throw in Anderson. Bullet dodged, imo

Bullet dodged from Habs POV as well. Cheers.

 

[BobClarkesfrontteeth]

He's been over a ppg center for 3 seasons now, ss that really a small sample size?

only for 2 out of 3 seasons and one was Covid sortened so yes SSS.

 

[Empoleon8771]

How is it flawed you used points to justify his place as a 1C. I countered that argument. Not my fault you used a flawed arguement and it went against you. Suck it up buttercup.

Not my team paying. 8.5 for a top tier 2C will seem cheap by next off season. wait until guys like Aho get their new deals.

Your "counter" argument was saying that Zibanejad was a 4C because he'd be the 4C on Edmonton, which makes literally no sense.

$8.5 million is still 1C money. Dubois is only worth like $7 million a year, he's getting a good bit overpaid by LA here.

 

[Herby]

You going to tell me Vilardi is better than Caufield now?

I’ve been reading comments in this thread and the Kings forum and my guess would be that many Kings fans would believe this.

As crazy as it sounds.

 

[kinghock]

How come some LA fans are saying they would have preferred Byfield over Kupari

Is Kupari that good?
Or Byfield that disappointing?

It is just some LA fans forget about taking their medications.

 

[symbology]

How come some LA fans are saying they would have preferred Byfield over Kupari

Is Kupari that good?
Or Byfield that disappointing?

No, those guys are on crack. All joking aside, Kupari can turn out to be a great player. He has the tools, just needs to put it all together.

 

[Atoyot]

only for 2 out of 3 seasons and one was Covid sortened so yes SSS.

He's 26 years old. What do you think is more indicative of the player he is right now, the past 3 seasons or his first 2 seasons?

 

[BobClarkesfrontteeth]

Aho? Hughes?

Aho is a 2C who got a boneheaded offer from a really bad GM.

Hughes's agent should have taken a bridge. That contract is already a steal and will be more in 3 years. Also he was coming off an ELC so he is looking at a second max deal at the end.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Fine then the only GM who is any good in the NHL was Chicago's as Domi was a 1C and he only made 3.5 million.

Alright so if a top 5 center in the entire league isn't a true 1C in your opinion then talking to you is an complete and utter waste of time

 

[viper0220]

Are we done edging now?

Not yet.

 

[Herby]

Vilardi has heart and drive. PLD has shown neither for longer.

But that is not what people are saying.

“Vilardi is a ppg player”
“Vilardi has elite offensive skills”
“Vilardi has out produced PLD”

 

[Habs Halifax]

I’ve been reading comments in this thread and the Kings forum and my guess would be that many Kings fans would believe this.

As crazy as it sounds.

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I was hoping for the Habs to have that leverage but once Dubois opened up to 5 or 6 teams, it went away. Our message was consistent, we were interested but not desperate.

For the Kings and Jets. Hope it works out for both sides. All I will say is I will evaluate the futures packages towards what the Jets got but we can only do that in 3+ years when guys like Beck, Barron, Mesar, Kidney, and Panthers 1st is older. I guess we will see how bad or good the Habs offer was then.

Vilardi to me is like Newhook. Middle 6F types who do have room to grow. Vilardi vs Caufield? I think most take Caufield's goal scoring power