Value of: Lafrenière to Mtl

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DingDongCharlie

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If the Rangers want to make a more win now move Laf for Anderson 50% retention. Yeah there’s 4 years left to retain on but that’s mostly offset by Laf being entry level now and likely to not have an unreasonable bridge deal coming. Anderson at 2.75m has huge value for a playoff contender.

Laf doesn’t hold that 1ov value and I’m sure some will still be hung up on the you don’t trade a recent 1ov for Anderson. The flip side is Anderson had a unique skill set and at 2.75mx5 excellent value.

Montreal banks of the French kid with potential much more fitting their time line. New York gets a power forward which easily makes them tougher to play against vs current Laf. He’s also a true rw who better fits into the Rags top 6.

Montreal still adds in this situation. Just not sure what the piece is.
 
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If the Rangers want to make a more win now move Laf for Anderson 50% retention. Yeah there’s 4 years left to retain on but that’s mostly offset by Laf being entry level now and likely to not have an unreasonable bridge deal coming. Anderson at 2.75m has huge value for a playoff contender.

Laf doesn’t hold that 1ov value and I’m sure some will still be hung up on the you don’t trade a recent 1ov for Anderson. The flip side is Anderson had a unique skill set and at 2.75mx5 excellent value.

Montreal banks of the French kid with potential much more fitting their time line. New York gets a power forward which easily makes them tougher to play against vs current Laf. He’s also a true rw who better fits into the Rags top 6.

Montreal still adds in this situation. Just not sure what the piece is.
No way on earth.

Lafreniere didn’t bust out of the gates like some expected but he was good in the playoffs last year. He also put up 19 ESG playing on the 3rd line without PP1 time. Put him on PP1 and he’s putting up at least 25 last year. Right now Laf lacks an extra gear in his skating, but he’s also 21 years old. I’m not selling him for a discount.
 

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Since Dach is playing wing, I'd trade Dach for Lafrenière.

We traded 2 x 1st round for Dach and he's 10 points in 12 games.
No thank you

Your premise is wrong.
He is NOT a reclamation project, ergo, he will not be had for cheap.

If you want to talk what might make sense for both sides, and this is a rare occasion where coke for pepsi could work, that is a discussion we can have.


total bs instantly rejected.

Slaf for LaF straight up is ballpark =. Here's why...

1. LaF was hyped, don't remember verbatim but def to this effect: "... LaF is the best 1OA who is a non generational pick since MacKinnon".
While he has yet to hit this benchmark this early, any objective, intelligent, fair and honest assessment will concur that the weak link in his chain was his skating. It was subpar by NHL standards and it has taken him until end of last season to BEGIN to be up to par. Now that that TEMPORARY problem continues to get addressed and is still improviing, we have reason to believe that LaF will succeed.


2, We are still dealing with Slaf based on potential, which is fine, but let's be clear he has not yet set the NHL world on fire day 1, minute 1.
Objective critique substantiating is this quote from an article directed to me from Yardbarker like 2ish weeks ago.
"Slafkovsky, taken first overall by Montreal last summer, has just two goals through six games. He’s missed some time with an upper-body injury, but it’s clear he was still missing something after slow performances during the rookie tournament in Buffalo, the pre-season and then his short regular season stint. There’s no reason to panic yet about the team’s 18-year-old star – he’s still viewed as one of the best prospects in the league – but it’ll be interesting to see if the team elects to keep him up with the big club or send him to AHL Laval."

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Who is the better player? Right now, LaF.
Who will have a better career. Cannot say.
Slaf is clearly the better skater, but that is it. He is not certainly better, let alone lights out better, than LaF.

The only interest Rangers would have in dealing LaF is if we could help you get PLD early, and w/PLD at pivot and LaF at LW, there is a possibility that Panarin, who will not get renewed 4 seasons hence w/NYR let alone at anywhere near 11m+, might consider waiving. After all, he knows and is comfortable w/these 2 as linemates, MON is a great world stage esp for hockey, and w/couple of correct moves could be contending.

I have heard Habs fans do not want bread now, b'c could help derail plan to tank for 1OA.
I think there is a narrow Goldilocks area where MON can move Anderson + Gallagher at half to Rangers, pay for that plus Panarin + helping get PLD, and with LaF for Slaf, wind up w/killer emerging F situation. It would then suck ass at D and G for balance of season to help drop to good odds for 1OA.

Of course, NY has to get something out of it.
I have nothing vs Panarin.
I want what I can export of his 11m moved asap so I have $$$ for KAM, Kakko, and Chytil.

More on all that another time.

but as is relevant to this, Rangers would consider to gamble on LaF for Slaf b'c of 2 extra elc years.

but that is it.
LaF IS NOT a reclamation project


This is absolutly crazy
 
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Bouboumaster

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Agreed. Somebody earlier said Lafreniere and 2023 NYR 1ST for Slafkovsky, which I don't like, but makes a lot more sense by comparison to Lafreniere for Slafkovsky straight up.

I would hate Laf +1st for Slaf but that Bernmeister dude is out of lunch with this 1vs1 trade lol

Slaf is already en route to have a better year than any by Lafrenière
 
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Rangers have no desire to move Lafreniere. The type of deal the NYR would take for him would be the type you’d have no interest in offering right now. He had a pretty good year last year. They aren’t moving him for a discounted rate 13 games in because he’s had a slow start. He may not be a superstar but he’ll be an impact player for a long time.
 

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Value wise I see Laf as a late 1st.

He's not worth a top 5 pick but in a deep draft, is he worth a late 1st? Depending on positions, exchange of 1st plus Laf?

Laf and Dubois (instead of Drouin/Hoff) would change the team into borderline top 10 in the league. And of course, send the excitement level into overdrive.

(As for giving up Guhle, absolutely not a chance in hell. Under no circumstances do I want another Drouin.)
 

TBF1972

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Dach plays soft...

I always liked Lafrenière's edge/grit, and he's uber talented.

I think he'd be an amazing 1st line LW with Caufield and Suzuki if he fulfills his potential.

Then you have Dubois/Slaf on the 2nd line...
you are already planning your lineup with dubois in it?

i can see this as a topic for the habs board, but on the mainboard? :biglaugh:
 
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Barnaby

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Value wise I see Laf as a late 1st.

He's not worth a top 5 pick but in a deep draft, is he worth a late 1st? Depending on positions, exchange of 1st plus Laf?

Laf and Dubois (instead of Drouin/Hoff) would change the team into borderline top 10 in the league. And of course, send the excitement level into overdrive.

(As for giving up Guhle, absolutely not a chance in hell. Under no circumstances do I want another Drouin.)
Lafreniere hasn’t been a star out of the gate, but he did score 19 ESG as a 19-20 year old. That easily would’ve been 25 with PP1 time. I’d say that’s easily worth more than “a late first” who may never play in the league.
 

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Your team just hired a goaltender who can't really goaltend because he played junior in Ontario.
Woosh. The point he's making is that there is a good chunk of the fanbase that is just obsessed with getting any and every French Canadian player. If the Habs were located in Saskatoon for example that obsession would not exist or at least be significantly less prominent. Do teams fans love the idea of getting a hometown player? Certainly, but no team is nearly as bad as the habs fanbase for it
 

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This is a repeat of Sergachev for Drouin trade. No way in hell Habs is going to do this.
A Habs fan is asking for LaF. I suspect Rangers would consider this for him.

What’s the OPs offer? Can’t put out there you want a certain player and whine when you’re told the potential cost.
 

JustAHabFan

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A Habs fan is asking for LaF. I suspect Rangers would consider this for him.

What’s the OPs offer? Can’t put out there you want a certain player and whine when you’re told the potential cost.
You said the Rangers would consider this offer? They would say yes immediately. Trading a 21 year old defenseman who played 20+ minutes a game against the opponent top line for struggling forward? You do the trade and laughing. People put too much valuation about the 1st overall tag. I would not even consider Beck for Laf because I am certain Beck will be better than Laf in 2/3 year. Habs had a lot of good prospects. They just need to be patient. There is no need to sell the farm for Laf because he was Francophone. They did it with Drouin and get burn badly. Don't do the same mistake twice.
 

HaNotsri

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Maybe wait two years and then trade for the reclamation project? He just turned 21, not really a reclamation project as of now.
 

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Kids a stud! Not trading him for anything. Need these players to win cups. One day the line will be
Laffy - Zibanejad - Kakko and it will be the most dominant line in hockey.
 
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