I think it would still be disappointing even if they had Browns productions numbers. Grundstrom has more goals than him in like half the games and no pp time and Byfield is probably at about the same goal pace as it is.
Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread part VII
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Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
Brown may not be 'the problem' but to place it on 'the youth' as an abstract when by and large they're all dying right next to Brown just highlights the inefficiency of being so stubborn with the lines.
It's the Martinez-Muzzin thing all over again,w here you have two talented enough players on their own who become a grease fire together.
Brown just happens to be really really greasy.
It's the Martinez-Muzzin thing all over again,w here you have two talented enough players on their own who become a grease fire together.
Brown just happens to be really really greasy.
He’s just painful to watch. So many dead plays. I’m to the point where saying he should be with Kopi again if he must be in the lineup.
Herby
How could Blake have known?
It's placing all the blame on any one person, my point is that is being done to much here when it should be more equally shared instead of just pinning it all on Brown. Dustin Brown is a 37 year old player likely playing his last season in the NHL, his disaster play this season is bad in the current, but it doesn't have any effects on the long-term, where as these other guys looking lost in the NHL is concerning both in the present and in the future. I am shocked that it's not discussed more here why these forwards who have spent a pretty good amount of time in the AHL come up to the NHL and for the most part just look terrible.
Can you draw positives from how anyone other than Kaliyev has looked so far this season in the NHL?
I honestly think Brown would actually play better if they gave him days off especially in this part of the season where the schedule is compressed.
FSL KINGS
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Tonight should be Carter's 50th game this season! Pens 4th round next year should turn into a 3rd after tonight.
BigKing
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If he must be in the lineup, Brown should be next to Kopitar since Kopitar has the best chance of dragging him around. Plus that might bring down Kopitar's minutes since you wouldn't want Brown getting so much.
I advocated for Iafallo on Byfield's wing before the season started and I'm still saying it. Byfield is mostly playing like ass and he needs help. Wish he didn't but he does. His development is more important than getting a WC berth this year. I don't find him to be an especially confident player and centering what is obviously the worst line on the team isn't helping.
I advocated for Iafallo on Byfield's wing before the season started and I'm still saying it. Byfield is mostly playing like ass and he needs help. Wish he didn't but he does. His development is more important than getting a WC berth this year. I don't find him to be an especially confident player and centering what is obviously the worst line on the team isn't helping.
Steve Zissou
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We should have gotten the 3rd just based on his long locks of hair blowing in the wind. #hehasrisen
Herby
How could Blake have known?
A win-win trade for both teams. Carter's expiration date in LA had passed but he still had something left in the tank. Happy for him and happy for the return the Kings got. Would have hated to see it get to the point it did with his fellow 2003 draft guys Richards, Phaneuf and now sadly Brown.
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BigKing
Blake Out of Hell III: Back in to Hell
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
Absolutely, I could go player by player and draw some good things from just about every one of them, especially when you start isolating them from the problem players. I could also easily draw several things they need to work on. I believe that's the entire point, right?
The real mistake would be getting hung up on their raw scoring production when they're with said players and getting NO PP time and few offensively preferential situations--one of the biggest issues we've had with their deployment all year is despite having Kopitar/Danault and in theory being able to face softer 3rd line matchups, TM has chosen to deploy the youth in tougher situations (ie still laughing at Vilardi getting harder starts than anyone on the roster early in the year). Is there a plan there somewhere? Hopefully, otherwise it's just crushing them for the sake of toughening them up, ie hazing lol.
King'sPawn
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If the Kings won 10 cups in my lifetime, including 2 years ago, I'd be pretty forgiving of any roadblocks.
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I get what you guys are saying - but for those of you who suffered through the McNall years like me and my dad did, I don't miss that. I get the legacy of the Lakers - I think the Kings could have had that if they were being managed properly. The Lakers are going to be a hot mess for at least the next 5+ years.
What happened to the Lakers was Daddy Buss died. Sure they got a COVID championship a couple years ago, but they've mostly spun their wheels since.
Herby
How could Blake have known?
It's an apples to oranges comparison.
The NBA is all about your couple of superstars and not much else. Free agency is much more important than in hockey, and first round picks drop significantly in value as you fall out of the top 3 and by the end of the 1st round those picks are about equal to 5th rounders in the NHL.
Also, NBA free agents want to be in LA and NHL free agents don't. The Lakers will be fine because the system is set-up for them to turn things around quickly.
The NBA is all about your couple of superstars and not much else. Free agency is much more important than in hockey, and first round picks drop significantly in value as you fall out of the top 3 and by the end of the 1st round those picks are about equal to 5th rounders in the NHL.
Also, NBA free agents want to be in LA and NHL free agents don't. The Lakers will be fine because the system is set-up for them to turn things around quickly.
apocalypse
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I think one player the Kings should look at this offseason is Kubalik. I know he was a King, but this guy's got skill and we could use him. He could come cheap and give our prospects some time to mature which might be needed. He's signed for 3.7m so maybe a 3 x 5 would be in order?
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Thinking Kings just wait to the offseason to fill one need fwd through FA and make the LHD trade as well in the offseason.Blake should trade for a rental that won't cost much to get through the playoffs and let him walk-in the offseason.
No thanks, that one season where he shot close to 20% was an outlier. If I'm going to bring someone in at the least they should be able to put up more points than Brown, and Kubalik can't even do that this year. 5M could bring in a far better player who can score and play both ways.
I agree a cheap rental like Kessel would work. Play them if they work out you look at signing him if they don't letting them walk isn't a bad thing you open a spot for the kids next year. The key is what u give up to get them No more then a 3rd and c prospect.
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I agree with this in principle. I once had to let a guy go who was a hard worker, tried his best, turned up on time and was well liked. At one point he also gave leadership to the team in some areas. The problem was that he was no longer able to do his job at the required level, no matter how much he tried or how much support I gave him. Things had moved forward, he was getting older and his skill set no longer matched. It’s a pretty good analogy really.
Genuinely the hardest thing I ever had to do professionally (granted harder for the guy in question). Worse than a professional athlete because he had a mortgage, a young kid and wasn’t a millionaire. But you do it, because it was my job, responsibility and everyone else could keep covering for him. My team hated it also, but they understood and essentially agreed from a professional standpoint.
So I agree that once a player becomes a diminishing return (combined on and off the ice) then they should be sat and moved on. Loyalty, history, popularity ultimately shouldn’t stop the decision being made. The players would be ok with it, so long as it’s done the right way. Any player not ok with it, in such a scenario, is probably the next one you want to phase out because the team should be the priority.
In terms of Brown specifically, given I don’t know his off ice impact,
I really don’t know. However, we must be getting close to the tipping point if we aren’t there yet. I hate saying that as a complete Brown homer.
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To what end? What is bringing in a rental Kessel going to achieve. It won’t make us a contender and he isn’t going to be the difference maker in winning a single round IMO. Surely it’s better to get which ever prospect(s) some post season experience.
If we bring anyone in it should be with term but at the TDL you tend to overpay, so likely better to wait until the summer. I’d only move now if it’s someone that has been specifically targeted as a longer term piece and by waiting we’d lose him to another franchise.
lumbergh
It was an idea. I didn't say it was a good idea.
Agreed. I'm sad that Brown's time is up, but it's a near certainty that Dustin Brown will have a job with the franchise in the future once he retires. It's not like they're going to be throwing him out on the streets. Plus he's made tens of millions of dollars on his current contract. He's being eased out as many of us thought.
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