Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread part VII

[LAKings88]

Yeah...I can't really compare those situations. Blake and company know that this is his last year with the team. If Brown ever decides to wear another team's sweater, it will be his decision. In the meantime, they are going to let him play out the final year of his contract and let him go out on his terms. The Richards thing was a ton of cap space and years and years of commitment to a guy they knew had a problem: the current situation is letting a life-long Kings legend play out the final year of his contract

They are in 2nd place after 54 games with him playing in 51 of them. They think they can win in spite of his poor play. They believe that showing the younger guys "this is how the Kings treat loyal legends" is worth more than his negative contributions on the ice.

The real issue here is if it gets worse. I do believe that there should be some sort of maintenance days for him since he plays better at the start of the season or when coming off of injury. Especially if they actually make the playoffs because he is for sure playing: I'd rather have him a bit more rested if he's going to be out there.

Just to be clear: I'm not arguing for him to be out there every night. At the same time, any talk of trading him or "cutting him loose" is a bad look for this franchise. Doing so doesn't take this team to a Cup so I get the bigger picture of letting him go out on top: you just hope it doesn't torpedo their playoff chances. That's the risk Management is obviously willing to take.

I mean not bring him back, they obviously aren’t going to let him go with 30 games to go.

 

[tny760]

I wonder how many people have me blocked

did someone say something?

 

[kingsfan28]

Bam! Got it!

Blake needs to start a Brown trade rumor! Y'all remember what happened to Brown's game last time the GM floated his name?

Unfortunately, the scouts who started the "what if" game with Brown as the bait are banned from Staples and can no longer watch him . Mckenzies retired so they can't give him the info either.

 

[deaderhead28]

Yup sure is.

This is atleast the 3rd time this stupid take has been made by people on this forum in the last week. If people think every poster should be an NHL player, coach, manager or scout to comment than this forum will be above as lively as a Coyotes home game.

Oh the irony.Might want to include the personal attacks towards anyone that doesn't walk the line of the God's on here.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

Bam! Got it!

Blake needs to start a Brown trade rumor! Y'all remember what happened to Brown's game last time the GM floated his name?

Hat trick vs CHI if I remember correctly.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Fine, if you think it's a bad take just say it's a bad take. No one cares about what level of play anyone played at as a pre-requisite to have an opinion. This a fan forum, there is going to be differing opinions and not everyone is going to like a player, manager or coach.

Fair enough.

 

[Trash Panda]

It really is a much better board when you ignore the narcissistic jack holes that think they’re smarter and better fans than everyone else because they played in SCAHA 30 years ago. It’s like listening to Al Bundy except it’s never funny.

What’s even funnier about that SCAHA comment, is I spent a youth hockey career playing against a certain yellow tinted bear organization, and their play was equally abhorrent as their HFboards namesake.

You just love to see it.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

What’s even funnier about that SCAHA comment, is I spent a youth hockey career playing against a certain yellow tinted bear organization, and their play was equally abhorrent as their HFboards namesake.

You just love to see it.

I spent my youth career getting my face punched in by guys who played a game or two for the Kings or Ducks so I'm brain dead enough to have unique takes

Will never forget one weekend playing 16U and getting absolutely manhandled by this kid that I swore was on roids

it was a barely 13 year old Gabe Gauthier

Everyone has that moment where they realize pro hockey is not in the cards

 

[apocalypse]

Another guy I'd like to see in a Kings uni is Kasperi Kapanen from Pit. Great player. Has a lot of skill and could bring that over to LA. Kings could snag him. Only signed for 3.2m.

 

[Trash Panda]

I spent my youth career getting my face punched in by guys who played a game or two for the Kings or Ducks so I'm brain dead enough to have unique takes

Will never forget one weekend playing 16U and getting absolutely manhandled by this kid that I swore was on roids

it was a barely 13 year old Gabe Gauthier

Call me crazy, but I think being physically decimated by an opponent at a medium-ish level of hockey gives you an excellent predisposition to appreciate the minute things about hockey that don’t show on a score sheet.

Momentum, Pride, belligerence, and sheer balls are criminally underrated part of the game that has been shoved aside in this “muh speed” movement that’s the current flavor of the week. Both are needed to win, not just one.

 

[YP44]

Another guy I'd like to see in a Kings uni is Kasperi Kapanen from Pit. Great player. Has a lot of skill and could bring that over to LA. Kings could snag him. Only signed for 3.2m.

I like Kapanen but same with other players I want roster spots for our forward group. See what we have first than go from there.

 

[Peter James Bond II]

Arthur almost had a 4 goal night. Time to move him up is right now, right now.
Get Anderson-Dolan in Friday as well. Has had a hot hand and hungry.
Iafallo needs to step up and go hard to the net..he's becoming a perimeter player, albeit always working hard.
After seeing Anderson-Doughty the last 2 games...am open to the Chychrun thing again.

Note to PON: You're ok in my book, except please please please do not announce Stoll as '2 time stanley cup champion, Jaret Stoll'
5 times a game. Once a month, acceptable.
Note to Carrlyn Bathe: Change up your questions. Stop asking this one every time "can you tell us about your goal..WALK US THROUGH IT"
Note to Alex Faust: Thank you for not saying 'rags the puck' for over a week now. Keep that streak to infinity, please.

 

[mysterman2]

Arthur almost had a 4 goal night. Time to move him up is right now, right now.
Get Anderson-Dolan in Friday as well. Has had a hot hand and hungry.
Iafallo needs to step up and go hard to the net..he's becoming a perimeter player, albeit always working hard.
After seeing Anderson-Doughty the last 2 games...am open to the Chychrun thing again.

totally agreed- its not like the Kings have a lack of forwards and there is no one better. JAD deserves a shot....hell he showed he was NHL caliber last season putting up 7 in 34 playing with schlubs. If they continue with the same old same old would be maddening considering they not only have options- but have legit options currently killing it in the AHL. The idea of platooning Brown should be discussed....saves him wear and tear of playing every game and gives a kid time to break in.

 

[apocalypse]

Brown should be scratched for the remainder of the season. Give him the assistant GM job. Jk

 

[FSL KINGS]

Yeah, so came across this article.


HockeyBuzz.com - Kevin Francis - The Sens 6 RFA's/Ottawa and LA looking to make a trade?!

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Yeah, so came across this article.


HockeyBuzz.com - Kevin Francis - The Sens 6 RFA's/Ottawa and LA looking to make a trade?!

I can see it now, Vilardi for Del Zotto......

 

[Peter James Bond II]

Brown should be scratched for the remainder of the season. Give him the assistant GM job. Jk

Honestly, I get the disrespect thing that Luc was saying at the SOTF. I am sure all the players respect him...but at some point, if 23 cannot perform adequately, (which is happening every game)
it's exasperating on the team - espeically as they hold each other accountable - in that they are pushing themselves to excel each shift and to do all they can to get into the playoffs.
At that point, it is a form of disrespect to them (the team) in putting him out there, 12 minutes a night. In most of the corporate world, that's the reality. You get terminated. You get called into an office
and given your exit papers...often, not by management, or the opportunity to speak with your boss.

It seems that BLUC treats this as a family thing and you have this earned tenure...where such a player is treated as almost sacred. This is wrong, period. I understand respect, but there must be
some middle ground. All players must be accountable...effort and tenure no longer qualifies a player, no matter who they are, if they are failing the team. Sure, there's a line and where that is,
the management and coaches should know it. If they don't, they should be in another line of work.

You may think that all the players are cool with him, being where he is...and all...but I bet that's not true. They can still like and respect him, but not on board with the actual reality
of what's transpiring on the ice and costing the team and YES, it does cost the team. Anyone could see line 1 and then line 3 was failing with him on it. And the PP too.

I recall last year when Drew had the puck and was moving up ice - then forced to do something - he looked at his only real option - Carter open and he looked at Carter and
then tried option 2, which was 100% riskier and stupid and failed. I could tell Drew had no confidence in Carter...a few weeks later, Carter was in Pittsburgh.

So what do you do? Remove him off the PP and start giving him offdays on back to backs. That's step 1. It is NOT disrepectful.

 

[YP44]

Honestly, I get the disrespect thing that Luc was saying at the SOTF. I am sure all the players respect him...but at some point, if 23 cannot perform adequately, (which is happening every game)
it's exasperating on the team - espeically as they hold each other accountable - in that they are pushing themselves to excel each shift and to do all they can to get into the playoffs.
At that point, it is a form of disrespect to them (the team) in putting him out there, 12 minutes a night. In most of the corporate world, that's the reality. You get terminated. You get called into an office
and given your exit papers...often, not by management, or the opportunity to speak with your boss.

It seems that BLUC treats this as a family thing and you have this earned tenure...where such a player is treated as almost sacred. This is wrong, period. I understand respect, but there must be
some middle ground. All players must be accountable...effort and tenure no longer qualifies a player, no matter who they are, if they are failing the team. Sure, there's a line and where that is,
the management and coaches should know it. If they don't, they should be in another line of work.

You may think that all the players are cool with him, being where he is...and all...but I bet that's not true. They can still like and respect him, but not on board with the actual reality
of what's transpiring on the ice and costing the team and YES, it does cost the team. Anyone could see line 1 and then line 3 was failing with him on it. And the PP too.

I recall last year when Drew had the puck and was moving up ice - then forced to do something - he looked at his only real option - Carter open and he looked at Carter and
then tried option 2, which was 100% riskier and stupid and failed. I could tell Drew had no confidence in Carter...a few weeks later, Carter was in Pittsburgh.

So what do you do? Remove him off the PP and start giving him offdays on back to backs. That's step 1. It is NOT disrepectful.

There was a PP last night where he was open on the right side and durzi went to the left side with the puck. If the team is not comfortable in trying him than he needs to be moved off the PP, or it needs to be discussed over video (may already be happening).

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

There was a PP last night where he was open on the right side and durzi went to the left side with the puck. If the team is not comfortable in trying him than he needs to be moved off the PP, or it needs to be discussed over video (may already be happening).

Is that the same PP in which he was down low, tried to go to the middle, saw it wasn't there, went back up to the point, who made a great pass to Kaliyev who buried it?

Curious, cuz did the guy at the point, was he not comfortable in giving it back to Brown? Was that the one?

 

[Herby]

Brown has been terrible, but I think at this point he's becoming to big a scape-goat on this board for some of the other issues on the team. The far bigger issue is all these young players the Kings have given chances to this season and only one of them has really ran with his opportunity and looked like he belongs on an NHL roster. The Kings have been looking for any kind of offensive production from that "third line" all year and have tried a bunch of highly drafted players in that spot all year and they have 86 combined games and have 6 goals and 10 assists (with 9 of the 16 points from Kupari). That is just completely unacceptable and it can't all just be blamed on Brown. The Kings rightfully should have expected more from some of these highly drafted guys.

For a lot of these guys next season is going to be year where it's really time to take off the bumpers when it comes to evaluating them.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Brown has been terrible, but I think at this point he's becoming to big a scape-goat on this board for some of the other issues on the team. The far bigger issue is all these young players the Kings have given chances to this season and only one of them has really ran with his opportunity and looked like he belongs on an NHL roster. The Kings have been looking for any kind of offensive production from that "third line" all year and have tried a bunch of highly drafted players in that spot all year and they have 86 combined games and have 6 goals and 10 assists (with 9 of the 16 points from Kupari). That is just completely unacceptable and it can't all just be blamed on Brown. The Kings rightfully should have expected more from some of these highly drafted guys.

For a lot of these guys next season is going to be year where it's really time to take off the bumpers when it comes to evaluating them.

If you talk Forwards yes, D, Bjornfoot, Durzi, they did well, despite their last few games being played with the oh shits

 

[Herby]

If you talk Forwards yes, D, Bjornfoot, Durzi, they did well, despite their last few games being played with the oh shits

I said in the 3rd scoring line spots.

I don't have any issues with how the Kings evaluate and develop defensive talent. The forwards are looking like a big problem right now.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

I said in the 3rd scoring line spots.

I don't have any issues with how the Kings evaluate and develop defensive talent. The forwards are looking like a big problem right now.

I missed that, I read it as youth.....

 

[Schmooley]

Brown has been terrible, but I think at this point he's becoming to big a scape-goat on this board for some of the other issues on the team. The far bigger issue is all these young players the Kings have given chances to this season and only one of them has really ran with his opportunity and looked like he belongs on an NHL roster. The Kings have been looking for any kind of offensive production from that "third line" all year and have tried a bunch of highly drafted players in that spot all year and they have 86 combined games and have 6 goals and 10 assists (with 9 of the 16 points from Kupari). That is just completely unacceptable and it can't all just be blamed on Brown. The Kings rightfully should have expected more from some of these highly drafted guys.

For a lot of these guys next season is going to be year where it's really time to take off the bumpers when it comes to evaluating them.

I shit talk Brown a lot but I dont think theres been an instance where he costs the team a game. He just doesnt bring much and is especially a drag on his line whether it was the first second or third line. If you look at Lafreniere he just got put on the top line with good players playing bigger minutes and is starting to produce. Its hard for rookies that have been scorers their whole lives to all of a sudden start playing checking roles with plugs as linemates against men and expecting results.
Fagemo is the only player that got any real shot in the top six this year and wasnt ready.

 

[Herby]

I shit talk Brown a lot but I dont think theres been an instance where he costs the team a game. He just doesnt bring much and is especially a drag on his line whether it was the first second or third line. If you look at Lafreniere he just got put on the top line with good players playing bigger minutes and is starting to produce. Its hard for rookies that have been scorers their whole lives to all of a sudden start playing checking roles with plugs as linemates against men and expecting results.
Fagemo is the only player that got any real shot in the top six this year and wasnt ready.

No one is asking for huge production, just any kind of production. Hell, even production similar to what Brown himself has put up would have resulted in likely a couple of more points in the standings. Every young player outside of Kaliyev has been an offensive black hole this season.