Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread part VII

[Axl Rhoadz]

No, I didn't say that. You took 2 and 2 and came up with 6400 then went into full lil bitch mode.

Nowhere does it say that Turcotte would be "better" than anybody - it says only that Turcotte's style of game is built for the playoffs. Its compared to Brown only because that's what the post I responded to suggested. I pointed out that Brown no longer plays the style of game that y'all romanticize about.

I never said that Turcotte would turn into your ridiculous "playoff monster". You made that up in your head and then used it to be insulting and weakly sarcastic.

If you hadn't wrongly assumed that and instead asked what I was talking about the answer would be the same damn thing I have been saying for two years. The Kings aren't winning anything until the kids are ready and that giving them the experience now is far more important than a futile chase at the playoffs now just to sooth the vets.

I don't expect ANY of the kids to produce now or in the playoffs. I wouldn't expect any of them to produce more than Brown this year and I wouldn't take Brown out of the lineup - just the PP. I definitely wouldn't re-sign him.

Brown isn't the same guy he was 8 years ago. He doesn't forecheck, he always sets up as the F3. He doesn't backcheck anymore because he is too slow to react. He rarely hits now because he doesn't put himself in those aggressive situations. The big hits he does have are when the opposition gets in his path.

Make sense yet?

Sure, that makes sense....but that's not what you said. You said Turcotte's style of play was built for the playoffs and would be better option than Brown. I SAID, how can you determine that when Turcotte's 'style' isn't even suited for the regular season ...yet....because he's done dick since he's been called up.

You can keep backtracking all you want, you know what you said....and I'm not necessarily disagreeing that the kids should get a taste of the playoffs if we get there...different topic. Thanks for playing though.

 

[Steve Zissou]

Trevor Moore...
FROM THOUSAND OAKS, CALIFORNIA!

 

[YP44]

I'm happy Vilardi is doing well on the Reign but I don't get why he should be automatically slotted onto the top line. He was not good at all in seven games this year, he needs to start from scratch and work his way up the line up. The rest of these guys are the ones that have us as one of the leagues best teams since that 1-5-1 start, I'd rather see them moved up along side KK. Put Kaliyev there if you want to make a shuffle, he's slowly improved as the year went along and has earned it far more than Vilardi.

I could be convinced on Kaliyev there and Vilardi on the 4th line. Just seems like most want the 4th line to stay the same as well

 

[YP44]

Against Detroit, QB played 11 minutes, DB played 13 minutes and AI played 18 minutes.

From the stand point of being an offensive weapon, why would you take the player with the 4th highest points on the team and cut his minutes by 5?

I like Iafallo and Kempe both on the left wing, and ice time could be spread out. If production does not follow you can always go back.

 

[kingsfan28]

The one worry I have about McAvoy would be his durability, Drew rarely misses time while McAvoy picks up a lot of dings here and there. On the other hand McAvoy is a nastier player.

I'd worry more about his massive 9.5 cap hit for the next 8 years that kicks in next season . Clarke , if all things go well, will be cap friendly for 5-7 years.

 

[Tijuana Trotz]

I'd worry more about his massive 9.5 cap hit for the next 8 years that kicks in next season . Clarke , if all things go well, will be cap friendly for 5-7 years.

 

[FSL KINGS]

Getting her a record deal in LA isn't tampering, right?
NSH-9

 

[Fishhead]

I'd worry more about his massive 9.5 cap hit for the next 8 years that kicks in next season . Clarke , if all things go well, will be cap friendly for 5-7 years.

That's always a concern, but that's paying for his prime years at least. That contract will be a value before long.

If Clarke ends up close to McAvoy I'll be happy, but to me a 24 year old sure thing is a lot better than a what if.

 

[Trash Panda]

This just simply isn’t the time for high-priced acquisitions, it’s a year too early at best.

The kings are so close to that point, but we are really just not quite there.

 

[Taishici]

I have been able to watch quite a few Kings games this year. The Kings are an interesting team and I am curious as to what their next moves will be.

I think getting Denault was a huge pick up for them. And I think the ultimate key and strength to the Kings will be the trio of Doughty, Kopitar, and Denault. In theory one of those 3 players will be on the ice at all times allowing the Kings to have a strong possession player always on the ice. I don’t see the Kings as a high scoring team but when they play their game they will be really hard to play against. And it looks like the Kings are being built into a playoff ready team.

Doughty is such an important player, he is so good at controlling things from the back end and he’s so good at defeating the other teams forecheck. With him on the ice the Kings should be winning the 5x5 play, at least possession wise.

Kopitar and Denault are great one two punch at center, especially in their ability to defend and keep the pressure on in the Ozone. Even though Kopitar has struggled a bit, I think he’s still an elite two way center.

Quick and Petersen are not bad, maybe a bit inconsistent at times.

The top 6 wingers are solid without being spectacular.

The Lizotte line has been a nice surprise.

The young dmen have been pretty good. Durzi has been a revelation, I really like how he carries himself on the ice. He’s not timid at all. Anderson also seems to have taken another step forward.

I also like a lot of the young forwards the Kings have been bringing up. I guess the plan is to get the young players some experience as long as they don’t really hurt the team? Am I right in thinking that?

Even though he’s raw you can see Byfield’s potential. I also liked Kupari and Fagmo when I saw them. I was hoping to see more of Turcotte but maybe next year?

I think Brown and Maata are weak points and the 3rd line seems to be an on going issue.

I would also say the power play doesn’t need to be great or even good for the Kings to be successful. But in the playoffs it will need to come up with goals at the right time, if the Kings make it of course . The problem with the Power Play in my opinion is that the Kings don’t have a natural shooter besides Kayliev or a good net front presence like Krieder from the Rangers. Doughty and Kopitar need natural scorers with them because they are much better at passing than scoring.

For me the biggest issue for the Kings is the Penalty Kill. If they can improve there they will become a team that can do some damage. I don’t see a lot of good PK defenseman on the Kings. Doughty is ok but probably better suited for PK2 than a PK1.

I would like to see the Kings add two players if they can. A left sided Dman that can penalty kill and a winger that is more of a natural scorer. Though I think an LD is more important. I thought if the Kings can get Chychrun that would be a good pick up. But I am not so sure they need him if the cost is too high.

All in all, I think the Kings are a team to watch out for. I like the way they play, they make it hard on the other teams. They have some weaknesses for sure but they can play with anybody. So it will be interesting to see what Blake does to improve the team.

 

[Kings Rule]

Kempe second in the speed competition, just .035 seconds behind the winner. Beat a lot of fast skaters.

• Kyle Connor, Winnipeg Jets - 13.851 seconds
• Adrian Kempe, Los Angeles Kings - 13.585 seconds
• Chris Kreider, NY Rangers - 13.664 seconds
• Evgeny Kuznetsov, Washington Capitals - 14.559 seconds
• Jordan Kyrou, St. Louis Blues - 13.550 seconds
• Dylan Larkin, Detroit Red Wings - 14.116 seconds
• Cale Makar, Colorado Avalanche - 13.834 seconds
• Connor McDavid, Edmonton Oilers - 13.690 seconds

 

[tny760]

I have been able to watch quite a few Kings games this year. The Kings are an interesting team and I am curious as to what their next moves will be.

I think getting Denault was a huge pick up for them. And I think the ultimate key and strength to the Kings will be the trio of Doughty, Kopitar, and Denault. In theory one of those 3 players will be on the ice at all times allowing the Kings to have a strong possession player always on the ice. I don’t see the Kings as a high scoring team but when they play their game they will be really hard to play against. And it looks like the Kings are being built into a playoff ready team.

Doughty is such an important player, he is so good at controlling things from the back end and he’s so good at defeating the other teams forecheck. With him on the ice the Kings should be winning the 5x5 play, at least possession wise.

Kopitar and Denault are great one two punch at center, especially in their ability to defend and keep the pressure on in the Ozone. Even though Kopitar has struggled a bit, I think he’s still an elite two way center.

Quick and Petersen are not bad, maybe a bit inconsistent at times.

The top 6 wingers are solid without being spectacular.

The Lizotte line has been a nice surprise.

The young dmen have been pretty good. Durzi has been a revelation, I really like how he carries himself on the ice. He’s not timid at all. Anderson also seems to have taken another step forward.

I also like a lot of the young forwards the Kings have been bringing up. I guess the plan is to get the young players some experience as long as they don’t really hurt the team? Am I right in thinking that?

Even though he’s raw you can see Byfield’s potential. I also liked Kupari and Fagmo when I saw them. I was hoping to see more of Turcotte but maybe next year?

I think Brown and Maata are weak points and the 3rd line seems to be an on going issue.

I would also say the power play doesn’t need to be great or even good for the Kings to be successful. But in the playoffs it will need to come up with goals at the right time, if the Kings make it of course . The problem with the Power Play in my opinion is that the Kings don’t have a natural shooter besides Kayliev or a good net front presence like Krieder from the Rangers. Doughty and Kopitar need natural scorers with them because they are much better at passing than scoring.

For me the biggest issue for the Kings is the Penalty Kill. If they can improve there they will become a team that can do some damage. I don’t see a lot of good PK defenseman on the Kings. Doughty is ok but probably better suited for PK2 than a PK1.

I would like to see the Kings add two players if they can. A left sided Dman that can penalty kill and a winger that is more of a natural scorer. Though I think an LD is more important. I thought if the Kings can get Chychrun that would be a good pick up. But I am not so sure they need him if the cost is too high.

All in all, I think the Kings are a team to watch out for. I like the way they play, they make it hard on the other teams. They have some weaknesses for sure but they can play with anybody. So it will be interesting to see what Blake does to improve the team.

holy shit, an educated, reasonable take on the team's play so far?

incredible!

 

[kingsfan28]

The NHL even fixes the all-star comp for Vegas. Pietrangelo gets two chances, misses both times, and WINS? That was painful to watch, or could've watched if they had the light on.

 

[Lt Dan]

I have been able to watch quite a few Kings games this year. The Kings are an interesting team and I am curious as to what their next moves will be.

I think getting Denault was a huge pick up for them. And I think the ultimate key and strength to the Kings will be the trio of Doughty, Kopitar, and Denault. In theory one of those 3 players will be on the ice at all times allowing the Kings to have a strong possession player always on the ice. I don’t see the Kings as a high scoring team but when they play their game they will be really hard to play against. And it looks like the Kings are being built into a playoff ready team.

Doughty is such an important player, he is so good at controlling things from the back end and he’s so good at defeating the other teams forecheck. With him on the ice the Kings should be winning the 5x5 play, at least possession wise.

Kopitar and Denault are great one two punch at center, especially in their ability to defend and keep the pressure on in the Ozone. Even though Kopitar has struggled a bit, I think he’s still an elite two way center.

Quick and Petersen are not bad, maybe a bit inconsistent at times.

The top 6 wingers are solid without being spectacular.

The Lizotte line has been a nice surprise.

The young dmen have been pretty good. Durzi has been a revelation, I really like how he carries himself on the ice. He’s not timid at all. Anderson also seems to have taken another step forward.

I also like a lot of the young forwards the Kings have been bringing up. I guess the plan is to get the young players some experience as long as they don’t really hurt the team? Am I right in thinking that?

Even though he’s raw you can see Byfield’s potential. I also liked Kupari and Fagmo when I saw them. I was hoping to see more of Turcotte but maybe next year?

I think Brown and Maata are weak points and the 3rd line seems to be an on going issue.

I would also say the power play doesn’t need to be great or even good for the Kings to be successful. But in the playoffs it will need to come up with goals at the right time, if the Kings make it of course . The problem with the Power Play in my opinion is that the Kings don’t have a natural shooter besides Kayliev or a good net front presence like Krieder from the Rangers. Doughty and Kopitar need natural scorers with them because they are much better at passing than scoring.

For me the biggest issue for the Kings is the Penalty Kill. If they can improve there they will become a team that can do some damage. I don’t see a lot of good PK defenseman on the Kings. Doughty is ok but probably better suited for PK2 than a PK1.

I would like to see the Kings add two players if they can. A left sided Dman that can penalty kill and a winger that is more of a natural scorer. Though I think an LD is more important. I thought if the Kings can get Chychrun that would be a good pick up. But I am not so sure they need him if the cost is too high.

All in all, I think the Kings are a team to watch out for. I like the way they play, they make it hard on the other teams. They have some weaknesses for sure but they can play with anybody. So it will be interesting to see what Blake does to improve the team.

I am inviting this guy to my birthday party

 

[RaymondReddington]

I am inviting this guy to my birthday party

Can I come too? I'll bring the Cheez Whiz

 

[Lt Dan]

Can I come too? I'll bring the Cheez Whiz

 

[bmr]

I have been able to watch quite a few Kings games this year. The Kings are an interesting team and I am curious as to what their next moves will be.

I think getting Denault was a huge pick up for them. And I think the ultimate key and strength to the Kings will be the trio of Doughty, Kopitar, and Denault. In theory one of those 3 players will be on the ice at all times allowing the Kings to have a strong possession player always on the ice. I don’t see the Kings as a high scoring team but when they play their game they will be really hard to play against. And it looks like the Kings are being built into a playoff ready team.

Doughty is such an important player, he is so good at controlling things from the back end and he’s so good at defeating the other teams forecheck. With him on the ice the Kings should be winning the 5x5 play, at least possession wise.

Kopitar and Denault are great one two punch at center, especially in their ability to defend and keep the pressure on in the Ozone. Even though Kopitar has struggled a bit, I think he’s still an elite two way center.

Quick and Petersen are not bad, maybe a bit inconsistent at times.

The top 6 wingers are solid without being spectacular.

The Lizotte line has been a nice surprise.

The young dmen have been pretty good. Durzi has been a revelation, I really like how he carries himself on the ice. He’s not timid at all. Anderson also seems to have taken another step forward.

I also like a lot of the young forwards the Kings have been bringing up. I guess the plan is to get the young players some experience as long as they don’t really hurt the team? Am I right in thinking that?

Even though he’s raw you can see Byfield’s potential. I also liked Kupari and Fagmo when I saw them. I was hoping to see more of Turcotte but maybe next year?

I think Brown and Maata are weak points and the 3rd line seems to be an on going issue.

I would also say the power play doesn’t need to be great or even good for the Kings to be successful. But in the playoffs it will need to come up with goals at the right time, if the Kings make it of course . The problem with the Power Play in my opinion is that the Kings don’t have a natural shooter besides Kayliev or a good net front presence like Krieder from the Rangers. Doughty and Kopitar need natural scorers with them because they are much better at passing than scoring.

For me the biggest issue for the Kings is the Penalty Kill. If they can improve there they will become a team that can do some damage. I don’t see a lot of good PK defenseman on the Kings. Doughty is ok but probably better suited for PK2 than a PK1.

I would like to see the Kings add two players if they can. A left sided Dman that can penalty kill and a winger that is more of a natural scorer. Though I think an LD is more important. I thought if the Kings can get Chychrun that would be a good pick up. But I am not so sure they need him if the cost is too high.

All in all, I think the Kings are a team to watch out for. I like the way they play, they make it hard on the other teams. They have some weaknesses for sure but they can play with anybody. So it will be interesting to see what Blake does to improve the team.

Spot on, sir. It would be nice to have a net front presence guy on the PP. Kind of like how I remember Holmstrom on Detroit. Will be very interesting to see if Arizona trades Chychrun this year.

 

[FSL KINGS]

KHL might be going straight to playoffs after the Olympics & wrapping up early. Can we get Kiril Krisanov over here by the end of the year?

 

[The Lukeman]

KHL might be going straight to playoffs after the Olympics & wrapping up early. Can we get Kiril Krisanov over here by the end of the year?

No, Kirsanov is still signed to a KHL contract until the end of next season.

In other news, Jordan Spence is now tied for 2nd in defensive scoring in the AHL... as a rookie...

 

[FSL KINGS]

No, Kirsanov is still signed to a KHL contract until the end of next season.

In other news, Jordan Spence is now tied for 2nd in defensive scoring in the AHL... as a rookie...

Think Blake talked about bringing Kiril over next year. Might be prepared to buyout the KHL deal. You can fix everything with money in Russia.

Spence with 3 assists last night!

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I definitely remmber them saying they're bringing Kirsanov over sooner rather than later but I cannot find a link. Sorry.

 

[KingsFan7824]

This just simply isn’t the time for high-priced acquisitions, it’s a year too early at best.

The kings are so close to that point, but we are really just not quite there.

I'm not talking any names, but in general, you don't know who will be out there to get in the future. If there's a guy that fits what you need today, you don't wait.

It's the same Branch Rickey philosophy we've been using for Kopitar and Doughty, but the opposite way. A year too early, rather than a year too late. Trading Kopitar a year too early would've meant getting rid of him at the 2014 draft. A completely dumb idea, would never realistically happen, but that's when it should've been done. The following season was his career worst, up to that point, and then the season after that the Kings were in 1st place on the day Kopitar re-signed, which ruined everything.

If there's a guy out there today, you get him. If you don't, you might not have that same opportunity a year from now. Then you have to wait another year to get that guy of need. And he still might not be out there to get.

 

[apocalypse]

I'm happy Vilardi is doing well on the Reign but I don't get why he should be automatically slotted onto the top line. He was not good at all in seven games this year, he needs to start from scratch and work his way up the line up. The rest of these guys are the ones that have us as one of the leagues best teams since that 1-5-1 start, I'd rather see them moved up along side KK. Put Kaliyev there if you want to make a shuffle, he's slowly improved as the year went along and has earned it far more than Vilardi.

Right, make him earn it. I don't think that's how it should be. Set him up for success and stick him on Kopitars wing. Move him around if he doesn't do anything.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Here’s another trade that’s worked out well for the Kings.

 

[Stimpythecat]

Think Blake talked about bringing Kiril over next year. Might be prepared to buyout the KHL deal. You can fix everything with money in Russia.

Spence with 3 assists last night!

If the Kings pay for a buyout of the KHL deal, that would be considered NHL compensation to Kirsanov. I'm not even sure that's allowed given his prospect status and lack of an ELC.

So at the very least it would be added to the Kings cap. At worst, it's a violation of salary cap/CBA rules and could be grounds for punishment from the league.