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Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread part VII

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bmr said:
He's still leading the team in points...and it's not really that close.
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Yea hes the most talented player on the team and plays most of the game and all key situations so Im thankful hes got something to show for it.
 
apocalypse said:
What are we gonna do when Doughty retires? Count on some 3rd round pick to take over top pairing duties? You have to somewhat plan for the future. I'm not against dealing Kupari, Madden or one of our other top forward prospects, but you have to plan for the future. Which is why I see Turcotte as being such a valued member of our prospect core and I would never trade him. I would deal someone else besides him. For me, our untouchables are Byfield, Turcotte, Kaliyev, Vilardi and Clarke.
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Doughty is 32 with 5 years left on his contract. We're worried about his retirement? He doesn't even care about it, in so far as he'd like to play in meaningful games again before he's done playing.

Like I said, I'm not saying trade Clarke. I do think it's not about 5 years from now anymore though. 5 years from 18-19, sure. The 5th year of that 5 year plan would be next year.

If they don't have to make a trade to be a contender, that's great. That frees up assets to build a 3rd line like TB had. If they can pick up some crap from the street like Florida did and turn it into gold, that's great.
 
Axl Rhoadz said:
I guess that's your way of saying that I kinda shoved it up your ass.
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I think it probably has more to say about you being antagonistic without making any sort of measurable point that garners a conversation.

Don’t take things so personally, and don’t make them so personal. It’s a discussion medium for people to discuss ideas, not a platform for senselessly attacking when your own substance is lacking.
 
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Deaders Ghost said:
I think it probably has more to say about you being antagonistic without making any sort of measurable point that garners a conversation.

Don’t take things so personally, and don’t make them so personal. It’s a discussion medium for people to discuss ideas, not a platform for senselessly attacking when your own substance is lacking.
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Dude, someone explain to me how I’m missing the point….the guy basically said that Turcotte should play over Brown if the playoffs started today. My point was, how can you even come to that conclusion when Turcotte has proven nothing at the NHL level…yet. So, someone tell me where I got it wrong….pretty please.
 
Axl Rhoadz said:
Dude, someone explain to me how I’m missing the point….the guy basically said that Turcotte should play over Brown if the playoffs started today. My point was, how can you even come to that conclusion when Turcotte has proven nothing at the NHL level…yet. So, someone tell me where I got it wrong….pretty please.
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Except you didn't say he proved nothing at the NHL level yet. You decided to take pot shots at his opinion by making an asinine comment about stats.

Saying Turcotte has proven nothing at the NHL level is a valid critique. Brown has proven more at the NHL level. But he's also been in the NHL since Turcotte was under 2 years old, so we HOPE he has experience.

The counter argument is that Brown, at this age, has slowed down and been less physically engaged. Past experience can only take you so far. It's a discussion.

Your disdain for anyone who isn't rah-rahing every move the organization has made out of long-term concerns has had you defaulting to arguing equally unproven arguments. Brown and many of the core players haven't competed in the playoffs for almost half a decade.

Edit: changed "provided" to "proved"
 
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With Boston getting older and having a fairly terrible prospect group, I'd wonder if they would consider moving McAvoy? I doubt it as he's just starting an extension, but I think it's worth kicking the tires. I'm guessing they load up on vets, but Bergeron is really old and UFA, Marchand is getting up there, as is Foligno. I'm not sure how long they can compete as their star guys are well outside of their peak - sans McAvoy.

It would be like the Kings trading Doughty, but Boston really is going to go through some lean years very soon. Yeah, having 20M tied up in two defensemen is risky, but the Kings could accommodate the cap. I wonder if Clarke+Turcotte+1st gets their attention. Maybe there's nothing out there outside of a crazy overpayment that Boston would consider, but I'd certainly ask if I was Blake. We have a ton of assets.
 
Get Josh Anderson and park him next to Byfield.

Lord have mercy just saw his contract, no way. Good thing Luc gave the guy who did approved that albatross a job!
 
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Fishhead said:
With Boston getting older and having a fairly terrible prospect group, I'd wonder if they would consider moving McAvoy? I doubt it as he's just starting an extension, but I think it's worth kicking the tires. I'm guessing they load up on vets, but Bergeron is really old and UFA, Marchand is getting up there, as is Foligno. I'm not sure how long they can compete as their star guys are well outside of their peak - sans McAvoy.

It would be like the Kings trading Doughty, but Boston really is going to go through some lean years very soon. Yeah, having 20M tied up in two defensemen is risky, but the Kings could accommodate the cap. I wonder if Clarke+Turcotte+1st gets their attention. Maybe there's nothing out there outside of a crazy overpayment that Boston would consider, but I'd certainly ask if I was Blake. We have a ton of assets.
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We have a ton of assets, but only few of them are real blue chips (Byfield and Clarke).
You do not trade either one of them together with 1st round pick and another very talented player to get player to complement 32 years old Doughty.
 
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Reclamation Project said:
Get Josh Anderson and park him next to Byfield.

Lord have mercy just saw his contract, no way. Good thing Luc gave the guy who did approved that albatross a job!
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It really does make you wonder exactly what management was looking for when they reached out to make that hire.
 
kinghock said:
We have a ton of assets, but only few of them are real blue chips (Byfield and Clarke).
You do not trade either one of them together with 1st round pick and another very talented player to get player to complement 32 years old Doughty.
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McAvoy isn't a complement to Doughty, he's every bit his equivalent. He's also 24 years old and I would be surprised if he doesn't win a Norris. The odds that Clarke ends up nearly as good as McAvoy are very, very low. He's one of the few players I would include Clarke in a trade for.
 
Kurrilino said:
You seriously want to trade a 1st + Kupari for an undersized guy who barely cracked the 20 goals once in his career?

I do not think so and am happy that Blakes didn't do anything like that so far
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This is just misleading and you know it.

If you go by goals per game, Keller is a 20 goal guy every season but 2018-2019. It's not his fault he's been in the NHL for four seasons prior to this one and two of them have been reduced by COVID. Last year he had 14 goals in 56 games (21 goal pace) and this year he's already at 17 in 45 games, which is a 31 goal pace. He's also just 23 and having a career year -on pace for 69 points- so there's no reason to not believe those numbers won't continue to improve over the next 3-4 years. I'm not a fan of trading for him because I'd be concerned about how we make the cap hit work and how much it'd cost to get him but if the price was Kupari and a 1st (which right now is 19th overall) I'm doing that in a heartbeat. I like Kupari but in a best case scenario he turns out to be what Keller is right now, and that's only if things work out perfect for him. A 23-year-old 1A centre for a lower-mid first and a solid but unspectacular prospect is an easy win.

Kurrilino said:
May i ask why you are so obsessed with Keller?
We already have Arvidson which is a slightly better Keller clone
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I love Arvidson but Keller's upside is well above Arvidson's and he's a better player arguably now while being younger and a longer term asset. It's not even close.
 
Deaders Ghost said:
I think it probably has more to say about you being antagonistic without making any sort of measurable point that garners a conversation.

Don’t take things so personally, and don’t make them so personal. It’s a discussion medium for people to discuss ideas, not a platform for senselessly attacking when your own substance is lacking.
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Exactly.

 
Remaining games:
7 games left against the East(2 Boston, 2 Columbus, 1 Florida, 1 Buffalo, 1 Islanders)
11 games left against the Central (3 Chicago, 2 Arizona, 2 Colorado, 1 Dallas, 1 Nashville, 1 Winnipeg, 1 Wild)
17 games left against the Pacific (3 Oilers, 3 Ducks, 3 Sharks, 3 Kraken, 2 Vegas, 2 Calgary, 1 Vancouver)
Vancouver's been on a roll since the coaching change, so glad we're over them mostly already. If we beat up the teams we're supposed to, I think the Kings can finish top 3 in the division. It will be interesting to see where the Kings are after the Oilers and Flames do their make up games.
 
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We should be able to win 19-20 of those games. If we go something like 19-12-4 in that stretch we should be good to be in the post-season and a top three seed in the division. A few of those games post-trade deadline will be interesting because some teams we may have trouble with might also be sellers.
 
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Fishhead said:
With Boston getting older and having a fairly terrible prospect group, I'd wonder if they would consider moving McAvoy? I doubt it as he's just starting an extension, but I think it's worth kicking the tires. I'm guessing they load up on vets, but Bergeron is really old and UFA, Marchand is getting up there, as is Foligno. I'm not sure how long they can compete as their star guys are well outside of their peak - sans McAvoy.

It would be like the Kings trading Doughty, but Boston really is going to go through some lean years very soon. Yeah, having 20M tied up in two defensemen is risky, but the Kings could accommodate the cap. I wonder if Clarke+Turcotte+1st gets their attention. Maybe there's nothing out there outside of a crazy overpayment that Boston would consider, but I'd certainly ask if I was Blake. We have a ton of assets.
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Why would you want to give up that much? That's really mortaging the farm.
 
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