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Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread part VII

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Docgonzo said:
Hoven and Bernstein are incredibly thin skinned and completely childish if anybody disagrees with their takes.

But if I ran the Kings/AEG I’d be fine with what they do because sadly you take away Mayors Manor and the 4th Period you have like 3 news “organizations” that actually cover the dang team.

Dillman at the Athletic but no idea how often she actually pays attention anymore.

Does the LA Times even have a dedicated reporter anymore to the Kings?

All The Kings Men, I enjoy and Jessie is accessible and respectful.

Hockey Royalty

And the franchise mouthpiece in Dooley at Insider.

So they might be childish but if you can get people to pay attention or have interest in your product through them, you take it. Doubt they’re making fans stop being fans. They just need to act professional and not like their seniors picking on incoming freshmen.
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For a team that's won cups in the last decade, you'd think there'd be more interest in the team locally.

The relevancy of the Kings in SoCal is about as low as I can ever remember it being. There was more interest in the team in the pre-cup days.
 
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johnjm22 said:
For a team that's won cups in the last decade, you'd think there'd be more interest in the team locally.

The relevancy of the Kings in SoCal is about as low as I can ever remember it being. There's was more interest in the team in the pre-cup days.
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The nfl is back too. I feel like that dominates all the other local teams.

AEG not getting a downtown nfl arena built might have slowed overall growth for their properties.
 
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The Kings are pretty popular I'd say given the local competition, but no one wants to go to downtown. I haven't been to a game in four years. It's too much of a pain in the ass.
 
In the last few years the Lakers won, the Dodgers won and now the Rams won. While the Kings have been one of the worst teams in the league. Of course nobody is paying attention to them right now. Casual people won’t until they actually do something in the playoffs.
 
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Axl Rhoadz said:
Of course they are…So Ca prob has the highest ratio of bandwagon fans in the country. Fake people everywhere.
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I wouldn’t say fake or bandwagon fans. There are just a lot of people that live in LA that are from other cities.
 
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I wouldn’t say fake or bandwagon fans. There are just a lot of people that live in LA that are from other cities.
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Yah, I’ve heard that argument for years…not buying it. Show me a fan base of a BAD team that invades our barn. Doesn’t happen…
 
Docgonzo said:
In the last few years the Lakers won, the Dodgers won and now the Rams won. While the Kings have been one of the worst teams in the league. Of course nobody is paying attention to them right now. Casual people won’t until they actually do something in the playoffs.
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There was pre-cup, non-playoff years where Staples/Crypto Center had more buzz than it does now.

I think in some ways, winning cups makes the fanbase less hungry.
 
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johnjm22 said:
There was pre-cup, non-playoff years where Staples/Crypto Center had more buzz than it does now.

I think in some ways, winning cups makes the fanbase less hungry.
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And there were still fights. Today, if you're not scoring a ton, there's nothing exciting going on.
 
Who was the last young King forward to make an impact on the team?

A: Adrian Kempe, in 2017-18

But how did that happen? It only happened, because they forced him into that role, when Carter became injured. How did he do? He had arguably his best season (until this year) playing center for Toffoli and Pearson.
He was only 21, with only 25 games experience, the yr before. He had top 6 minutes and excelled.
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Was also +11. This happened, because he got the minutes and played with 2 good, younger, veteran forwards.
If he had a bad game, he was not scratched. He was actually in the top 5 in the NHL for some offensive categories, the first 2 months.

What happened after this year, was he lost 2C and was tried on the wing, but never had consistent, quality linemates and kind of floundered.

If Carter does not get injured...this impact year does not happen.

One of the reasons there are since 0 impactful forwards; 4 years running - is that none
of the high end skill level forwards are getting quality minutes with quality
veterans, unless it's the 4th line. It's honestly somewhat surprising, that they let Byfield, Kupari and Vilardi get some 10-12 minutes a game now, together...but it would be better if one of them (Kupari or Gabe) got line 1, over Iafallo and the other 2 had a veteran with them. Iafallo would be a good choice, if he was playing well, but he's not.

There will be no young, impact forwards, until one is given CEMENTED SINK OR SWIM (Like Kempe had) minutes in the top 6.It seems even 2-5 injuries do not even allow that, nor TOTAL IMMENSE FAILURE, that AI has had for over 1/3 of a season, to get demoted and a young, capable forward, get a shot. Seems like you must pay your dues in the bottom 6 for 3 years, to get a legit shot. Like Trevor Moore, who has succeeded. Too bad AI stepped in as an overage, 23-24 yr old college free agent and was instant line 1 from day 1, and he's never ever lived up to that. Those days are gone, giving any 18-20 year old skilled forward that chance.
 
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I don't know about you all but I feel there is still too much Sutter Hockey in this organization. Grind it out, generate offense from defense in combination with good goaltending. I think the Kings need to change their identity and become more of a team with emphasis on creating scoring. I want to see the Kings of the 90's more when Gretzky, Kurri and Robitaille were lighting the lamp! Bring back the high flying goal scoring, as a lot more teams are geared up that way around the league.
 
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It is time to trade Quick in the off-season, while he still has some trade value? I think a playoff contender who exits in the 1st round might have some interest in him, just like the Wild acquired Fleury. They are stuck with Petersen's contract, but might need to bring in another vet goalie? Or is Quick the type of player that will never play for another team?
 
SherVaughn30 said:
I don't know about you all but I feel there is still too much Sutter Hockey in this organization. Grind it out, generate offense from defense in combination with good goaltending. I think the Kings need to change their identity and become more of a team with emphasis on creating scoring. I want to see the Kings of the 90's more when Gretzky, Kurri and Robitaille were lighting the lamp! Bring back the high flying goal scoring, as a lot more teams are geared up that way around the league.
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Sounds great. Who on this team is prime Gretzky/Kurri/Robitaille/Sandstrom/Granato/etc? And what makes you think even if we had them our coaches would put them on the ice over Koptand Iafallo?
 
SherVaughn30 said:
I don't know about you all but I feel there is still too much Sutter Hockey in this organization. Grind it out, generate offense from defense in combination with good goaltending. I think the Kings need to change their identity and become more of a team with emphasis on creating scoring. I want to see the Kings of the 90's more when Gretzky, Kurri and Robitaille were lighting the lamp! Bring back the high flying goal scoring, as a lot more teams are geared up that way around the league.
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Sure, but meanwhile the Sutter coached team in the Kings division is in 1st place with only 178 goals against on the season, and a goal differential of +75.
 
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Sure, but meanwhile the Sutter coached team in the Kings division is in 1st place with only 178 goals against on the season, and a goal differential of +75.
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Petersen/Quick are not even close to a level that Markstrom is playing at! Sutter adjusted his coaching style to apply with the more modern game. Flames are not structured to be big and heavy like Lombardi did with the Kings. The Flames are fast and have scoring talent. They have a bunch goal scorers besides a Kempe type. Sutter no longer has to coach a team to grind it out so much and create offense from defense like he had to coaching the Kings to their Cups. The Kings are stuck with defending so much, that it kills their offensive creativity. You can't be a regular playoff team and have some success trying to win low scoring games 2-1, 3-2, etc. Sutter has adjusted, but the Kings have not adjusted enough to improve their ability to score goals!

Also, the Flames have a strong top 4 d-pairs even after not protecting Giordano in the Expansion Draft. The Kings have Doughty, while the rest is somewhat unproven. They had to bring in 35 year old Edler to give the D-group some more stability. With Doughty out and if they still had not gotten Edler back from injury, things would have been a total mess on the back end! The Kings still have too many holes to make the playoffs.
 
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SherVaughn30 said:
Petersen/Quick are not even close to a level that Markstrom is playing at! Sutter adjusted his coaching style to apply with the more modern game. Flames are not structured to be big and heavy like Lombardi did with the Kings. The Flames are fast and have scoring talent. They have a bunch goal scorers besides a Kempe type. Sutter no longer has to coach a team to grind it out so much and create offense from defense like he had to coaching the Kings to their Cups. The Kings are stuck with defending so much, that it kills their offensive creativity. You can't be a regular playoff team and have some success trying to win low scoring games 2-1, 3-2, etc. Sutter has adjusted, but the Kings have not adjusted enough to improve their ability to score goals!
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Ah, I see. It wasn't Sutter's coaching that was the problem with the Kings then. It was the players. I agree.
 
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