Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread part VII

[Steve Zissou]

Me thinks Bergevin tries to trade for Lehkonen, he always loved him when he was with the habs.

(2) recent head scratcher Bergevin deals were Danault and Gallagher. Gallagher is a warrior but was already really slowing dow. Bergy just had to sign him to a six-year contract extension that runs till 2026-27. That contract is already an albatross.

He also let Danault walk thinking he had plenty of depth in the C position. It's a shame he couldn't see what he had right in front of him.

I wouldn't trust the "moves" Bergevin would do if he were GM of LA. I also don't like his willingness to jettison his picks and prospects at every turn.

 

[head eyes]

(2) recent head scratcher Bergevin deals were Danault and Gallagher. Gallagher is a warrior but was already really slowing dow. Bergy just had to sign him to a six-year contract extension that runs till 2026-27. That contract is already an albatross.

He also let Danault walk thinking he had plenty of depth in the C position. It's a shame he couldn't see what he had right in front of him.

I wouldn't trust the "moves" Bergevin would do if he were GM of LA. I also don't like his willingness to jettison his picks and prospects at every turn.

He let Danault walk because he already knew he (Bergevin) was going to LA later, so he encouraged Danault to sign in LA. He did us a solid.

(I may have made this all up)

 

[TruKingFan]

Last I looked Bergevin is not the GM of the Kings.

 

[BringTheReign]

We could be matching up against Vancouver, Edmonton, or Calgary if we do make the playoffs this year. I disagree with Bertuzzi's decision/train of thought, but the reality is that he'd be unable to play any of those divisional road games down the stretch or in the playoffs no matter what anyone thinks. Bertuzzi is also in the middle of a career year (i.e. likely unsustainable and at inflated acquisition price), and trading with Yzerman is generally a bad idea for any other GM.

 

[LAKings88]

Faber won’t take long to adjust.
Clarke on his way too.

Walker and Roy have a spot currently but if those two rookies have good camps they could very much be expendable and Roy in particular I think would have value to any team.

There is no current rush but who knows what that right sight will look like as early as next year.

 

[henkkj]

In my opinion no rush to trade Roy. Might as well let Faber and Spence play in the AHL next year and keep Roy for now. Let Clarke and Durzi battle for the 3RD spot, I'd assume its going to be Clarke's if he is ready to go. Can't see a spot for Walker so I'm assuming he is going to be traded in some sort of a package. A lot of options this way going forward and there isn't too much pressure on the young guys.

Doughty
Roy
Clarke/Durzi

 

[kinghock]

In my opinion no rush to trade Roy. Might as well let Faber and Spence play in the AHL next year and keep Roy for now. Let Clarke and Durzi battle for the 3RD spot, I'd assume its going to be Clarke's if he is ready to go. Can't see a spot for Walker so I'm assuming he is going to be traded in some sort of a package. A lot of options this way going forward and there isn't too much pressure on the young guys.

Doughty
Roy
Clarke/Durzi

Durzi can already play left side

If Kings will be able to convert Spence and Grans to LD our defense will be unbelievable

 

[TwzKing]

In my opinion no rush to trade Roy. Might as well let Faber and Spence play in the AHL next year and keep Roy for now. Let Clarke and Durzi battle for the 3RD spot, I'd assume its going to be Clarke's if he is ready to go. Can't see a spot for Walker so I'm assuming he is going to be traded in some sort of a package. A lot of options this way going forward and there isn't too much pressure on the young guys.

Doughty
Roy
Clarke/Durzi

Clarke is in the nhl or back to jrs

 

[LAKings88]

Anderson/(Chychrun) Doughty
Bjornfot Durzi
(Edler) Clarke
***** Roy
***** Walker
***** Faber
***** Spence

Any number of trade options there.

 

[Steve Zissou]

Looking like a badass Napolean Dynamite with mad amounts of swag.

 

[RocketKing]

Friedman says LA interest in Garland and Vancouver wants Turcotte. There would probably be something else to add by LA but not a top level asset.

Trade brewing Canucks and Kings

A tug of war happening in the West!

www.hockeyfeed.com

I really like this idea. Garland really stirs it up and his style is something I think the Kings need more of. He’s also got 4 years at 4.95 term. He does seem
to miss a small amount of games every year but hasn’t had a major injury as far as I can tell and just turned 26 in March. Turcotte is a top prospect still, but his potential ceiling is reduced IMO. He could still net out as good or maybe better than Garland but it’s not a solid for sure thing. Also he’s still colllecting pretty significant injuries and will likely continue to do that. His durability is questionable.

LA would trade a center with future and cash in potential for a nice line 2/3 wing. If this rumor has legs, I like it. We can’t play all of our centers and maybe some newly drafted guys like Helenius are making Turcotte less important to our rebuild.

Interesting.

 

[KingsHockey24]

What a dumb idea to move Turcotte for Garland. Another midget with a big contract who's never cracked 40 points in his career.

I'd rather have a legit power forward like Lawson Crouse who can play up and down your line-up and beat the crap out of people.

 

[Cook24]

No to Turcotte for Garland. Don’t need another small forward and if we’re moving Turcotte it’s for Chychrun, not Garland…

 

[RocketKing]

What a dumb idea to move Turcotte for Garland. Another midget with a big contract who's never cracked 40 points in his career.

I'd rather have a legit power forward like Lawson Crouse who can play up and down your line-up and beat the crap out of people.

So I don’t disagree we need more toughness and I do like Crouse and he’s younger too. They both played and Garland was more of a go to guy than Crouse. But take the last 4 years and Cruose has a ppg of .39, although he’s having a career best now in Sea, but Garland is like .57 PPG. I Garland is going to help drive the offense better and we need to get more pucks in the net.

 

[KingsHockey24]

So I don’t disagree we need more toughness and I do like Crouse and he’s younger too. They both played and Garland was more of a go to guy than Crouse. But take the last 4 years and Cruose has a ppg of .39, although he’s having a career best now in Sea, but Garland is like .57 PPG. I Garland is going to help drive the offense better and we need to get more pucks in the net.

I think Garland blocks our youngsters from getting top six minutes the next 4 years and we'll be put in a situation where Kaliyev, Byfield, Turcotte, etc are getting 10 minutes a night and we'll all be complaining about it.

Crouse you can literally put in the bottom six if you want and he'd play the same exact in your face style without stealing top six minutes from our youngsters. Can you put Garland on the 3rd/4th line and expect him to have the same impact? I don't think so. Especially at 5 million the next 4 seasons.

 

[RocketKing]

No to Turcotte for Garland. Don’t need another small forward and if we’re moving Turcotte it’s for Chychrun, not Garland…

If we could get Chychrun for Turcotte, that deal would already be done. Chychrun is completely different kind of hockey trade and would cost LA a ton more than this. And he’s injured again, it looked like he caught an edge pulling up over the blue line carrying the puck and his knee just went out or something but that was not a good look for a top pair DMAN. I think that with his injury history I’m passing on Chych. Too much risk IMO.

 

[kinghock]

Friedman says LA interest in Garland and Vancouver wants Turcotte. There would probably be something else to add by LA but not a top level asset.

Trade brewing Canucks and Kings

A tug of war happening in the West!

www.hockeyfeed.com

I really like this idea. Garland really stirs it up and his style is something I think the Kings need more of. He’s also got 4 years at 4.95 term. He does seem
to miss a small amount of games every year but hasn’t had a major injury as far as I can tell and just turned 26 in March. Turcotte is a top prospect still, but his potential ceiling is reduced IMO. He could still net out as good or maybe better than Garland but it’s not a solid for sure thing. Also he’s still colllecting pretty significant injuries and will likely continue to do that. His durability is questionable.

LA would trade a center with future and cash in potential for a nice line 2/3 wing. If this rumor has legs, I like it. We can’t play all of our centers and maybe some newly drafted guys like Helenius are making Turcotte less important to our rebuild.

Interesting.

“There would probably be something else to add by LA”: is it your comment or Friedman’s?

Turcotte has so much more potential comparing to Garland.

Even on Vancouver board they are saying Turcotte for Granland is too good to be true.

 

[Herby]

What a dumb idea to move Turcotte for Garland. Another midget with a big contract who's never cracked 40 points in his career.

I'd rather have a legit power forward like Lawson Crouse who can play up and down your line-up and beat the crap out of people.

He had 39 points in 49 games last year. That is a 65 point total over a full season. Let’s not act like he is a 30 point player.

 

[BigKing]

It's just a rumor but the fact that it can even be mentioned on something with more credibility than the trade proposal board tells you what you need to know about Turcotte's value.

I'm not saying to do that deal. I'm not saying Turcotte is a bust. What I am saying is there are a lot of folks on here that need to realize that what a prospect does after they are drafted matters and potential ceilings change by the year. Turcotte is in his D+3 season and has done mostly nothing except play in to the criticisms of being injury-prone and not a high-level offensive talent. Vilardi can't even be sent down next season without having to clear waivers first. I read that including one of these guys + a 1st is too much for Chychrun. Yikes.

 

[kinghock]

He had 39 points in 49 games last year. That is a 65 point total over a full season. Let’s not act like he is a 30 point player.

 

[KingsHockey24]

He had 39 points in 49 games last year. That is a 65 point total over a full season. Let’s not act like he is a 30 point player.

I'm not calling Adrian Kempe a 30 goal scorer until he hits 30.

I'm not calling Garland a 40 point scorer until he actually reaches that milestone.

 

[Reaper45]

Honestly if Blake adds a tan crayon like Kulak, what’s the point?

 

[kinghock]

Friedman says LA interest in Garland and Vancouver wants Turcotte. There would probably be something else to add by LA but not a top level asset.

Trade brewing Canucks and Kings

A tug of war happening in the West!

www.hockeyfeed.com

I really like this idea. Garland really stirs it up and his style is something I think the Kings need more of. He’s also got 4 years at 4.95 term. He does seem
to miss a small amount of games every year but hasn’t had a major injury as far as I can tell and just turned 26 in March. Turcotte is a top prospect still, but his potential ceiling is reduced IMO. He could still net out as good or maybe better than Garland but it’s not a solid for sure thing. Also he’s still colllecting pretty significant injuries and will likely continue to do that. His durability is questionable.

LA would trade a center with future and cash in potential for a nice line 2/3 wing. If this rumor has legs, I like it. We can’t play all of our centers and maybe some newly drafted guys like Helenius are making Turcotte less important to our rebuild.

Interesting.

Elliotte Friedman in his podcast is saying Vancouver wants Kings first for Garland and LA is saying NO so far

There is nothing Friedman saying about Turcotte.



32 Thoughts: The Podcast | Podcasts - Sportsnet.ca

 

[BigKing]

I'd be okay with a 1st for Garland but it is scary because the Kings could still miss and then it is like 13OA or better.

If you knew for sure it was in the 20s then I do it all day long.

 

[KingsHockey24]

Elliotte Friedman in his podcast is saying Vancouver wants Kings first for Garland and LA is saying NO so far

There is nothing Friedman saying about Turcotte.



32 Thoughts: The Podcast | Podcasts - Sportsnet.ca

A 1st for Garland would be okay-ish.

I think 4 years @ 5M per while needing top six minutes to be affective is a glaring issue. I love the Kaliyev/Lizotte/Lemieux combo but I don't want him to be stuck on the 4th line the next million years. (Edit: Him as in Kaliyev)