Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread 2022-23 Season

[Johnny Utah]

Would have liked to get a LHD with term.

 

[DapperDan]

Defense for next year will be interesting. I think the ideal scenario is we re-sign Gavrikov and part ways with both Durzi and Walker. Then sign Ryan Graves in free agency.

Anderson - Doughty
Gavrikov - Roy
Graves - Clarke

 

[bmr]

This is the same mentality a majority of the posters here had about Vilardi when his value was at it's lowest.

Learn from history, or something like that.

Completely agree here. If we would have dumped Vilardi and not given him a chance we would all be furious right now. Turcotte's value is at his lowest since we drafted him. Definitely should wait because we won't get value back right now.

 

[DapperDan]

This is the same mentality a majority of the posters here had about Vilardi when his value was at it's lowest.

Learn from history, or something like that.

That's totally fair. I'd love to see him come back and prove everyone wrong. I'd only argue that he will have a harder time cracking the lineup than Vilardi unless we start a full rebuild and I don't see that happening soon.

 

[Fishhead]

Really quite a letdown. They still have flaws and shook the room. Durzi getting smoked and Walker making mistakes against a bad Habs team like they have all year and they are comfortable going into playoff games with these 2. Good teams are gonna eat these two alive with their mistakes and all it takes is one goal in a tight playoff game.

They have fewer flaws, certainly, and every team in the west has those. The room didn't seem to be shaken too much, they played fine last night.

Things absolutely need to be reviewed on defense, but if they settle on a top-4 of Anderson/Doughty and Gavrikov/Roy, that's pretty damn solid. Let Durzi and whoever run wild against weaker competition. All teams lean on their top 2 pairings come post-season, especially in tight games and late in games.

 

[WHOneedsSOX]

From the CBA

16.4 Active Roster Size; Playing Roster.

(a) There shall be a maximum of twenty-three (23) Players on each Club's Active Roster at any one time, provided, however, that, on the date of each season's Trade Deadline, a Club's Active Roster may be increased to any number of Players the Club, in its discretion, so determines, subject to Article 50.


ALSO

I think you get 4 recalls not 5 but you can have unlimited emergency recalls assuming that they are necessitated by injury but I can't presently find the language in the CBA that confirms 4 not 5.

Still looking.


ADDITIONALLY


The AHL playoff roster deadline is today so I believe Byfield and Kaliyev and Kupari are not eligible to play for the Reign the rest of the season or AHL playoffs.

Collegiate or juniors players not currently on the Reign roster ARE available to join the team and the organization actually DID move out a RHD in Frederic Allard so theoretically should Brandt Clarke join the Reign after Barrie's season is done there would be less of a logjam on the right side with Spence and Grans being the only RHD currently on the Reign roster.

Why don't the Kings send them down anyways? Unless the Kings go deep in the playoffs they can send both down to the AHL playoffs.

I think we traded Quick so we didn't have to have 3 goalies on the roster. We obviously needed another one and Copley wasn't going down. Quick would have been claimed for sure, given Vegas actually wanted him.

In any case, just because no trade was made doesn't mean they weren't trying to work something else out. It's also nice to have the space if someone comes along with an offer.

Would've been his full cap hit though. Would Vegas have been able to fit it?

 

[Surf Nutz]

Pretty sure it was missed as the Mayor is an absolute ass… but during a podcast he made very telling comments about Turcotte, his skills/talent and how the Kings view him..

In a nutshell, he said they view him as a big part of the future as he brings something they absolutely need… - I assume this is to say they love his playmaking, leadership qualities and intangibles..

I wouldn’t trade him as his value to us is more than we could get in a trade but I’ve been seeing stuff online that the Blackhawks are trying to get him..

Edit: someone posted the podcast earlier this week I believe or it’s on MayorsManor

Why is Mayor an a?
I guess it does not effect his accuracy?
@King'sPawn works as a secretary or something under him.

 

[AbsentMojo]

I am fine with dealing him if there is a package on the table, but I doubt they move him for a low return on his own over just letting him continue to develop and see what they have. I mean, what is the purpose of dealing him for a 3rd or bottom 6 roster player, etc? He still has middle 6 skill and talent and while is situation is different than say Vilardi's he is still quite young and if he can stay healthy for a stretch could prove to be useful. I just don't see them dealing him for a low-end deal just to get rid of him. There has to be a definite upside to the deal that is making the team better than just retaining value.

Yes... Turcotte another season of ELC after this - so no need to move him unless its a good deal... Byram had a shaky start (health-wise, not production wise).. he seems to be staying healthier.. so there is some hopium available.

 

[Steve Zissou]

That's totally fair. I'd love to see him come back and prove everyone wrong. I'd only argue that he will have a harder time cracking the lineup than Vilardi.

EXACTLY the reason to hang on to him and see if he can develop into the 5th OA pick that he was/is.

 

[All The Kings Men]

Why don't the Kings send them down anyways? Unless the Kings go deep in the playoffs they can send both down to the AHL playoffs.

I'm sure there are more reasons than just this BUT

if you sent those three down to Ontario for the day just to make sure they were on the roster then you would be using 3 of your 4 remaining recalls to bring them back.

At this point I think it's clear Arthur Kaliyev is not an AHL player.
Rasmus Kupari has over 100 games in the NHL over the last two years and clearly has a role that the organization likes for him.

and finally despite what many people may think... Quinton Byfield has been playing well on the top line and there is no indication from what I'm seeing that anybody in the Kings organization is disappointed in his progress or contribution on the top line since the turn of the calendar.

 

[bmr]

Biggest shocker to me so far this season...Danault is a team worst -12.

Disclaimer: I'm not trying to say the +/- stat means everything...just really surprised here.

 

[bmr]

I'm sure there are more reasons than just this BUT

if you sent those three down to Ontario for the day just to make sure they were on the roster then you would be using 3 of your 4 remaining recalls to bring them back.

At this point I think it's clear Arthur Kaliyev is not an AHL player.
Rasmus Kupari has over 100 games in the NHL over the last two years and clearly has a role that the organization likes for him.

and finally despite what many people may think... Quinton Byfield has been playing well on the top line and there is no indication from what I'm seeing that anybody in the Kings organization is disappointed in his progress or contribution on the top line since the turn of the calendar.

You gotta wonder who is going to sit.

There's really only one open spot when you factor in:

Byfield/Kopi/Juice
Fiala/Danault/Arvidsson
Iafallo/Lizotte/Vilardi
Kaliyev/Kupari/Grundstrom

When Moore is back, one of the last 3 is out. I would assume Moore would be back with Danault and Arvidsson. Iafallo and Vilardi have been so good together. Lizotte and Fiala have been good together. Tough decisions.

 

[mysterman2]

Biggest shocker to me so far this season...Danault is a team worst -12.

Disclaimer: I'm not trying to say the +/- stat means everything...just really surprised here.

my bro and i were talking about him....bit of regression this season from the D and scoring. Still a stud and a shutdown guy you need to have but not quite the spark of last season.

 

[Sol]

To put it gently. Danault has been ass this season.

This is the same mentality a majority of the posters here had about Vilardi when his value was at it's lowest.

Learn from history, or something like that.

Okay that’s so unrealistic though. Vilardi was very bad. He had skill but he was pretty much invisible. Players like that most often than not sink the vast majority of the time. I think the worst thing about Vilardi’s immaculate metamorphosis is that now Kings fans will use him as an example rather than understand he’s an exception to the standard.

 

[WHOneedsSOX]

I'm sure there are more reasons than just this BUT

if you sent those three down to Ontario for the day just to make sure they were on the roster then you would be using 3 of your 4 remaining recalls to bring them back.

At this point I think it's clear Arthur Kaliyev is not an AHL player.
Rasmus Kupari has over 100 games in the NHL over the last two years and clearly has a role that the organization likes for him.

and finally despite what many people may think... Quinton Byfield has been playing well on the top line and there is no indication from what I'm seeing that anybody in the Kings organization is disappointed in his progress or contribution on the top line since the turn of the calendar.

Got makes sense. Thanks!

 

[YP44]

Defense for next year will be interesting. I think the ideal scenario is we re-sign Gavrikov and part ways with both Durzi and Walker. Then sign Ryan Graves in free agency.

Anderson - Doughty
Gavrikov - Roy
Graves - Clarke

WHERE IS SPENCE!!

 

[mysterman2]

Would have liked to get a LHD with term.

hopefully can resign gavrikov and problem solved- would be nice if his signing served as incentive for Kirsanov to come over. long shot albeit

 

[bmr]

To put it gently. Danault has been ass this season.


Okay that’s so unrealistic though. Vilardi was very bad. He had skill but he was pretty much invisible. Players like that most often than not sink the vast majority of the time. I think the worst thing about Vilardi’s immaculate metamorphosis is that now Kings fans will use him as an example rather than understand he’s an exception to the standard.

Honestly, Vilardi (IMHO) was never really bad. He was coming off some pretty serious injuries and was probably lacking confidence and really questioning whether he would be able to play in the NHL on a consistent basis. We saw flashes of what made him such a great player and then this past season he seems to have psychologically really simplified his approach and just worked on things he can control.

 

[Fishhead]

Why don't the Kings send them down anyways? Unless the Kings go deep in the playoffs they can send both down to the AHL playoffs.

Would've been his full cap hit though. Would Vegas have been able to fit it?

Yes, they have over $2.9M of deadline space today, and that's with Quick on the roster at 50%. So they could have squeaked it in.

 

[Sol]

Honestly, Vilardi (IMHO) was never really bad. He was coming off some pretty serious injuries and was probably lacking confidence and really questioning whether he would be able to play in the NHL on a consistent basis. We saw flashes of what made him such a great player and then this past season he seems to have psychologically really simplified his approach and just worked on things he can control.

Here’s the thing, yeah we saw with Vilardi flashes of skill but he was abysmally slow. It’s obvious he put in some inhuman amount of work to fix his speed. But that’s not normal.

 

[AbsentMojo]

Biggest shocker to me so far this season...Danault is a team worst -12.

Disclaimer: I'm not trying to say the +/- stat means everything...just really surprised here.

Partly thats due to line 2 getting the hardest matchups this season (at least thats what heard from TM after the Carolina game).. not excusing it tho. Seems Danault not playing as well, or maybe that line misses Moore more than we realize. Edit: maybe this also explains 1st line resurgeance

hopefully can resign gavrikov and problem solved- would be nice if his signing served as incentive for Kirsanov to come over. long shot albeit

yes need to grow a garden of Russians like they had in Det and have in DC

 

[theMajor]

Biggest shocker to me so far this season...Danault is a team worst -12.

Disclaimer: I'm not trying to say the +/- stat means everything...just really surprised here.

hes had a really rough go of the last month +, doesnt look like himself at all

 

[mysterman2]

yes need to grow a garden of Russians like they had in Det and have in DC

Gotta plant the first russian seed. Soil is now nutrient rich that Voynov fungacide has wore off

 

[AbsentMojo]

WHERE IS SPENCE!!

he's indepsenceable!!!! who was it that reported the team itself was wondering why he didnt make it

Gotta plant the first russian seed. Soil is now nutrient rich that Voynov fungacide has wore off

They'll probably contractually obligate Gavrikov to a 1 story home : )

 

[LAKings88]

Takes two to tango but 6.5 in space wasted (yeah I'm sure they tried) seems like a wasted opportunity. Guess we will never know what could've been.