Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread 2022-23 Season

[kings11]

Yeah. Vegas native going back several generations on my dad’s side.

Ha! I relocated here 1.5 years ago though I guess Summerlin is it’s own thing according to locals I’ve meet lol

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Ha! I relocated here 1.5 years ago though I guess Summerlin is it’s own thing according to locals I’ve meet lol

Summerlin is one of the nicest parts of Vegas. My parents live there.

 

[Telos]

I like how the Athletic didn't say whether or not the Kings were a winner or loser at the deadline, only that Jonathan Quick was a loser because he didn't get a NMC. FML.

NHL trade deadline winners and losers: An East arms race is a win for the West

Here are the NHL's best and worst performers on the trade market over the five weeks leading up to Friday's deadline day.

theathletic.com

 

[Surf Nutz]

Summerlin is one of the nicest parts of Vegas. My parents live there.

I didn't know the homes there had basements.
Good for you!

I like how the Athletic didn't say whether or not the Kings were a winner or loser at the deadline, only that Jonathan Quick was a loser because he didn't get a NMC. FML.

NHL trade deadline winners and losers: An East arms race is a win for the West

Here are the NHL's best and worst performers on the trade market over the five weeks leading up to Friday's deadline day.

theathletic.com

Winning!

I am NOT an Athletic Supporter

 

[Sol]

It's also unrealistic to rebuild into a contender, even if you do the right things. While it being more realistic to mess up, like missing on higher picks, losing guys on waivers, etc. Like the Kings did before winning the Cup.

Why does a player that they developed have to be a bad thing? Even if they patiently take time to see if they can get it right, they still can't get credit?

Truly competing for the Cup is an exception, not the standard. Unless the standard is just get in and you never know what can happen.

What on earth are you talking about? I am talking about there being merit to a path that’s well traversed and less merit on paths less taken. Point being, Vilardi development is highly unusual and to use that to justify that Turcotte will be something is irrational.

 

[kings11]

Summerlin is one of the nicest parts of Vegas. My parents live there.

Yeah, really nice and close to the mountain, though it’s been too damn cold lately

 

[deaderhead28]

I support the team no matter what moves they make. Understand i am in the camp of playing the kids and wait til the offseason to fill holes and not waste draft assets on two UFA. Since Blake has gone and used draft capital, he should have upgraded the 3C and Sean Walker holes if you want to make it deep in the playoffs. This team isn't a contender just a playoff team as is. Next year i can see Blake filling holes and making a deep run in the playoffs.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Yeah, really nice and close to the mountain, though it’s been too damn cold lately

Amen! Snow in Las Vegas on March 1st has to be a sign of the apocalypse.

I support the team no matter what moves they make. Understand i am in the camp of playing the kids and wait til the offseason to fill holes and not waste draft assets on two UFA. Since Blake has gone and used draft capital, he should have upgraded the 3C and Sean Walker holes if you want to make it deep in the playoffs. This team isn't a contender just a playoff team as is. Next year i can see Blake filling holes and making a deep run in the playoffs.

This is pretty close to my general position, too. Blake has made it clear that he thinks this team is a contender, though, so expectations should be high.

If Korpisalo plays lights out and Todd gets out of his own way, this team can absolutely do some damage.

 

[LAKings88]

I didn't know the homes there had basements.
Good for you!


Winning!

I am NOT an Athletic Supporter

That reminded me of the first time I bought one as a young teen on my own. The girl behind the counter was really cute so I did what every teen would do and bought one that was way bigger than needed. I had to wear that damn thing for a whole season.

 

[Surf Nutz]

That reminded me of the first time I bought one as a young teen on my own. The girl behind the counter was really cute so I did what every teen would do and bought one that was way bigger than needed. I had to wear that damn thing for a whole season.

Those are actualy the ones that Vegas had to order upon request of some of their players.
Don't drop the soap Quickee!

 

[Esteban Tornado]

How many of you live in/near Summerlin? We live walking distance to City National Arena and totally forgot to go to practice and see Quick

 

[Johnny Utah]

Blake really needs to make a move with Arvidsson or Iaffalo so he can move Kayilev off the 4th line.

The emergence of Vilardi basically kept Kayilev at the 4th line RW.

Byfield/Kopi/Kempe
Moore/Danault/Arvidsson
Iafallo/Lizotte/Fiala
Vilardi/Kupari/Kayilev
Extras: Grundstrom, JAD, MacEwen

If the Kings move one of Iafallo or Arvidsson, they can move Kayilev up and ONE of MacEwen/JAD/Grundstrom can get into the line up, one can sit, and one can be traded or dealt (JAD or Grundstrom). Probably better to rotate JAD and MacEwen with each other - since Grundstrom makes more than both and has been pretty bad this year.

The other thing is the Kings need a 4th line that hits and grinds, not a bunch of skilled players that can't find a spot because of an abundance of skilled or overpaid 15 goal forwards.

Hell, even Vilardi is on the 3rd line now and 4th line when Moore comes back.

Iaffalo, Moore and Lizotte are all similar. RB has to move on from 1-2 of those players at some point.

 

[Fishhead]

The other thing is the Kings need a 4th line that hits and grinds, not a bunch of skilled players that can't find a spot because of an abundance of skilled or overpaid 15 goal forwards.

In all of my years as a Kings fan, I never even imagined I would ever see anything like this stated. It's absolutely batshit crazy how different this team is than pretty much every iteration of the Kings I've seen.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

How many of you live in/near Summerlin? We live walking distance to City National Arena and totally forgot to go to practice and see Quick

I live about 10 minutes from City National. Definitely may do that.

 

[All The Kings Men]

I'm sure there are more reasons than just this BUT

if you sent those three down to Ontario for the day just to make sure they were on the roster then you would be using 3 of your 4 remaining recalls to bring them back.

At this point I think it's clear Arthur Kaliyev is not an AHL player.
Rasmus Kupari has over 100 games in the NHL over the last two years and clearly has a role that the organization likes for him.

and finally despite what many people may think... Quinton Byfield has been playing well on the top line and there is no indication from what I'm seeing that anybody in the Kings organization is disappointed in his progress or contribution on the top line since the turn of the calendar.

So I totally missed it while in the office today but Kupari and Byfield might have been sent to Ontario and recalled and so therefore should theoretically be available for Ontario in the playoffs and now the Kings have 2 recalls left available to them.



Mayor had it earlier

 

[AbsentMojo]

So I totally missed it while in the office today but Kupari and Byfield might have been sent to Ontario and recalled and so therefore should theoretically be available for Ontario in the playoffs and now the Kings have 2 recalls left available to them.



Mayor had it earlier


EDIT: I don't actually know yet I was just looking at CapFriendly and they had Kupari and Byfield listen in Ontario and the AHL Transaction page has Kupari and Byfield "added" to the Reign roster.

So... I guess we'll find out tomorrow (Saturday)

I heard other way around... on NJ/VGK broadcast they talked about paper transaction to put guys on the AHL roster for a minute today so they wouldnt have burn their callups.. now im very confused.

 

[All The Kings Men]

I heard other way around... on NJ/VGK broadcast they talked about paper transaction to put guys on the AHL roster for a minute today so they wouldnt have burn their callups.. now im very confused.

I asked for clarification.

Let you know when I do.

 

[johnjm22]

Blake really needs to make a move with Arvidsson or Iaffalo so he can move Kayilev off the 4th line.

The emergence of Vilardi basically kept Kayilev at the 4th line RW.

Byfield/Kopi/Kempe
Moore/Danault/Arvidsson
Iafallo/Lizotte/Fiala
Vilardi/Kupari/Kayilev
Extras: Grundstrom, JAD, MacEwen

If the Kings move one of Iafallo or Arvidsson, they can move Kayilev up and ONE of MacEwen/JAD/Grundstrom can get into the line up, one can sit, and one can be traded or dealt (JAD or Grundstrom). Probably better to rotate JAD and MacEwen with each other - since Grundstrom makes more than both and has been pretty bad this year.

The other thing is the Kings need a 4th line that hits and grinds, not a bunch of skilled players that can't find a spot because of an abundance of skilled or overpaid 15 goal forwards.

Hell, even Vilardi is on the 3rd line now and 4th line when Moore comes back.

Iaffalo, Moore and Lizotte are all similar. RB has to move on from 1-2 of those players at some point.

Moore should have not been re-signed. That's a spot that should have been opened to fill internally.

 

[KingsFan7824]

I like how the Athletic didn't say whether or not the Kings were a winner or loser at the deadline, only that Jonathan Quick was a loser because he didn't get a NMC. FML.

NHL trade deadline winners and losers: An East arms race is a win for the West

Here are the NHL's best and worst performers on the trade market over the five weeks leading up to Friday's deadline day.

theathletic.com

You'd think Quick was traded at 30 while having a good year. He got a 10 year deal, which is essentially a NMC for anyone, but especially a goalie, and he played pretty much the entire 10 years here. They only got rid of him at 37, in the middle of the worst season of his career, on top of his 3 worst seasons coming in the last 5 years.

Kings trade franchise icon. Again, at 37 years of age, with an .876 sv%. And it's .854% since Dec 1st. And it's .841% since Jan 1st. And .821% since Feb 1st. He was 3-1 since Feb 1st though.

If Quick does anything for Vegas, especially against the Kings, it will literally be the only thing we talk about until the Kings win the Cup again. It will surpass they should've traded Kopitar, or they shouldn't have traded for Lucic. We won't even remember who Kopitar and Lucic are. But he wasn't good as a King in 22-23.

What on earth are you talking about? I am talking about there being merit to a path that’s well traversed and less merit on paths less taken. Point being, Vilardi development is highly unusual and to use that to justify that Turcotte will be something is irrational.

What's less traveled or unusual about Vilardi? He was a highly though of prospect, who was taken lower than he otherwise would've been in the draft because of injury. The Kings took him, and took the time to develop him into what looks like a decent player. If Turcotte is healthy, he should be a player of some kind. Whether he should've been taken 5th or 10th, people thought he was a decent prospect. Muzzin had the back issue in junior, and would've likely been taken higher in the draft than he otherwise would've been due to that injury, and was let go by a couple other NHL teams, and then the Kings signed him, and took the time to develop him into a decent player.

You just don't want to give this iteration of Kings management any credit for anything.

 

[kings11]

How many of you live in/near Summerlin? We live walking distance to City National Arena and totally forgot to go to practice and see Quick

As far as I know so far is Richie, myself and now you … I could have sworn there’s more of us.

I mean, you can’t miss me really.. wife’s a shork fan as is the BnL, and his friends are a mix of Ducks, Kings and VGK fans! He also plays at CNA.. I think they have a logo of el Boracho from the Mexican lottery game

 

[LAKings88]

I say this in all reverence to JQ, this season he became a liability. I expected loses while he was in net. Maybe he needed something to light a fire. I was still for keeping him around and I do think communication should have been better but I don’t think there was any more trust in him at this point. It still sucks. It still sucks that Petersen is an AHLer getting paid 5m a year.

 

[Sol]

You'd think Quick was traded at 30 while having a good year. He got a 10 year deal, which is essentially a NMC for anyone, but especially a goalie, and he played pretty much the entire 10 years here. They only got rid of him at 37, in the middle of the worst season of his career, on top of his 3 worst seasons coming in the last 5 years.

Kings trade franchise icon. Again, at 37 years of age, with an .876 sv%. And it's .854% since Dec 1st. And it's .841% since Jan 1st. And .821% since Feb 1st. He was 3-1 since Feb 1st though.

If Quick does anything for Vegas, especially against the Kings, it will literally be the only thing we talk about until the Kings win the Cup again. It will surpass they should've traded Kopitar, or they shouldn't have traded for Lucic. We won't even remember who Kopitar and Lucic are. But he wasn't good as a King in 22-23.



What's less traveled or unusual about Vilardi? He was a highly though of prospect, who was taken lower than he otherwise would've been in the draft because of injury. The Kings took him, and took the time to develop him into what looks like a decent player. If Turcotte is healthy, he should be a player of some kind. Whether he should've been taken 5th or 10th, people thought he was a decent prospect. Muzzin had the back issue in junior, and would've likely been taken higher in the draft than he otherwise would've been due to that injury, and was let go by a couple other NHL teams, and then the Kings signed him, and took the time to develop him into a decent player.

You just don't want to give this iteration of Kings management any credit for anything.

Wait before you go off rambling, do you think Vilardi from last season to now is a normal occurrence for players ? Are you seriously telling me that ?

 

[King'sPawn]

Wait before you go off rambling, do you think Vilardi from last season to now is a normal occurrence for players ? Are you seriously telling me that ?

I think the overall point is that Vilardi has had unusual circumstances relating to his health. But how the Kings handled him wasn't unusual, whether or not you agree.

Ironically, injuries aside, LA has done exactly what should be done with Vilardi.

He got meaningful ice time to start. The following season, he was given 2C responsibilities. He struggled. He had his responsibilities reduced. And the following (this) season, he came out like a bat out of hell.

Now, he's older than almost every young player in the org (as Blake's first pick), but you can see how challenging a player and letting him take some lumps to see where he needs to grow can really contribute to a player's development.

So, I could be off from KF7824's point, but I think it's fair to say the Kings themselves didn't do anything unusual with Vilardi.

It's actually the same thing we've been calling for the Kings to do with other prospects. And we're seeing it with Byfield after 2+ years.

 

[Steve Zissou]

Speaking of Vilardi... got to love that Vilardi celly.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Now here’s a franchise altering trade that quite a number of Kings fans hated at the time.