Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread 2022-23 Season

[tny760]

still feel like ekholm doesn't really resolve the kings' problems long term, similar to mccabe albeit they're a different class of player

i have reservations about rebuilding the 2016 predators.. except 6 years later.. too

 

[Surf Nutz]

I guess where I differ is that I think all the big players are pretty much hitting the NHL really soon. I don’t think drafting is that much of a priority right now with the lack of available spaces and a deep pool. While the Kings are low on LD and goalie prospects I think that the issues needing to be fixed need to be fixed now rather than later 3-5 years by the time they’re nhl bound

Normally, maybe.
But looking at inflated trade prices and a very good draft you should hold your picks and take into consideration that you may need to aim for more NHL ready players.
Like a Stutzle vs, a Byfield for this draft.

 

[SherVaughn30]

They gave him a bridge deal in 2019.

No they didn't. A 3 year extension @ $853k per year really isn't a bridge deal. His 2 year ELC was @ a higher $925k. A bridge deal would have been an annual around $2 million, if the plan was to make Petersen the long term #1. Petersen's numbers kept dipping each season leading up to his start of $5 million per year. Blake had poor assessment to the leg work Petersen put together. You give a 3 year @ $5 million per year because the goalie put up numbers to earn that deal and not bcuz the GM projects the goalie to be a #1.

 

[FSL KINGS]

Average goaltending, a D that can D & I wonder if this team could take the division or win a round or two?

Alternatively, the entire interwebs will call for my job all Summer until I find a goalie.
- Blake (maybe)

Just trade for Karlsson.
Doughty , Karlsson
Durzi, Clarke
Edler, Spence


Choose 1
Saros, requires first born +
Gibson & Demko, will they bounce back? If not you've made the situation worse.
Korpisalo & Lankinen, is it enough to make a difference?

 

[KingsFan7824]

No they didn't. A 3 year extension @ $853k per year really isn't a bridge deal. His 2 year ELC was @ a higher $925k. A bridge deal would have been an annual around $2 million, if the plan was to make Petersen the long term #1. Petersen's numbers kept dipping each season leading up to his start of $5 million per year. Blake had poor assessment to the leg work Petersen put together. You give a 3 year @ $5 million per year because the goalie put up numbers to earn that deal and not bcuz the GM projects the goalie to be a #1.

That is a bridge deal. An arbitrary $2m number means nothing. It bought them time because Quick was aging and nobody was going to trade for him, and they had Campbell in a will they/won't they romcom situation. It had $1m in cash in the 3rd year, and the last 2 years had the same salary whether he was in the NHL or AHL.

And again, Petersen wasn't a normal prospect. 23 when the ELC started. 25 for his 2nd contract. 28 at the start of this season.

And for those that score at home, none of that is excuse making, or being in favor of the contract. It's trying to find the the logic of the process. Trying to figure out how A goes to B goes to C. Good or bad is boring. I would do that for literally any GM of any team too, not just my #1 fav rad boy Blakey.

 

[LAKings88]

I still don’t think Vancouver is looking to move Demko. He was stellar a year ago. Injured this year. Still young. Why move him?

 

[FSL KINGS]

I still don’t think Vancouver is looking to move Demko. He was stellar a year ago. Injured this year. Still young. Why move him?

Concerned about ongoing health issues. They think his hip might be acting up causing issues down the leg. He's coming back from a groin injury this time. Had Cal like numbers to start the year.

With 3 years left after this one & a management that bounced between goalies on runs for multiple cups in Pittsburgh, a trade isn't that crazy. Will he be around after a rebuild? Will he be healthy? They just shipped Horvat out.

 

[unicornpig]

dang wished walman hit FA.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Choose 1
Saros, requires first born +
Gibson & Demko, will they bounce back? If not you've made the situation worse.
Korpisalo & Lankinen, is it enough to make a difference?

This is the problem and why I don't see Blake making a goalie trade unfortunately.

Blake can't gamble here, he needs a sure thing. Saros is the only answer there. Too many question marks with Gibson/Demko class, not enough oomph with the others, just a dice roll.

Maybe Minny starts feeling confident and moves one of Gustavsson/Wallstedt, or at least a guy can dream

 

[kinghock]

This is the problem and why I don't see Blake making a goalie trade unfortunately.

Blake can't gamble here, he needs a sure thing. Saros is the only answer there. Too many question marks with Gibson/Demko class, not enough oomph with the others, just a dice roll.

Maybe Minny starts feeling confident and moves one of Gustavsson/Wallstedt, or at least a guy can dream

On Predators board they want Byfield plus for Saros...

 

[Fishhead]

On Predators board they want Byfield plus for Saros...

That's certainly what I would ask for. Given where NSH is they would need multiple pieces.

From the Kings standpoint, keeping Byfield and Clarke, it might look something like:

2x 1st
Spence
Kaliyev
Turcotte
Walker or expiring contract

For Saros and something else.

 

[KINGS17]

Average goaltending, a D that can D & I wonder if this team could take the division or win a round or two?

Alternatively, the entire interwebs will call for my job all Summer until I find a goalie.
- Blake (maybe)

Just trade for Karlsson.
Doughty , Karlsson
Durzi, Clarke
Edler, Spence


Choose 1
Saros, requires first born +
Gibson & Demko, will they bounce back? If not you've made the situation worse.
Korpisalo & Lankinen, is it enough to make a difference?

Whose first born? I say the Kings put together a package of Robitaille and Blake's first born and make an offer.

 

[johnjm22]

Korpisalo this month: 5gp 2.43gaa .933sv%

And that's while playing on the Blue Jackets.


When Korpisalo plays the Blue Jackets are 11-11-0.

When Merzlikins plays the Blue Jackets are 6-15-2

When Tarasov plays the Blue Jackets are 2-9-1


He's better than Copely in almost every metric, albeit by not a huge margin. I wouldn't trade for him if it's expensive, but it's for sure something Blake should be looking at.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Idk. I like Ekholm. Even at his age and cap hit. He’s a much, much, much better version than Edler. Perfect mentor for Clarke and Spence.

I think he’s a safer risk than trading and extending someone like Chychrun or Gavrikov.

 

[unicornpig]

X2 firsts for ekholm, lol wouldn't give up 1

 

[Lt Dan]

On Predators board they want Byfield plus for Saros...

of course they do. Any fanbase is going to want the moon and the sun for their player(s)
And thats why none of them are GMs

 

[johnjm22]

This is the problem and why I don't see Blake making a goalie trade unfortunately.

Blake can't gamble here, he needs a sure thing. Saros is the only answer there. Too many question marks with Gibson/Demko class, not enough oomph with the others, just a dice roll.

Maybe Minny starts feeling confident and moves one of Gustavsson/Wallstedt, or at least a guy can dream

That's only the case if he's paying a high price.

There's hardly a sure thing in goaltending these days.

A low priced average goaltender would be a life saver if Copey gets hurt or goes cold.

Could've had Hellburg for free. He's just as good as Copely.

 

[johnjm22]

The Predators are probably approaching Saros the same as they did with Jeannot; not looking to trade him, but if you make us an insane offer we'll do it.

Blake would have to go full on Milbury to get Saros IMO.

 

[kovacro]

Korpisalo this month: 5gp 2.43gaa .933sv%

And that's while playing on the Blue Jackets.


When Korpisalo plays the Blue Jackets are 11-11-0.

When Merzlikins plays the Blue Jackets are 6-15-2

When Tarasov plays the Blue Jackets are 2-9-1


He's better than Copely is almost every metric, albeit by not a huge margin. I wouldn't trade for him if it's expensive, but it's for sure something Blake should be looking at.

He's been good this year overall and that is in front of an AHL calibre defense. I think the Jackets end up moving him prior to the deadline and he will make for a solid backup/insurance plan for a playoff bound club.

 

[LAKings88]

Idk. I like Ekholm. Even at his age and cap hit. He’s a much, much, much better version than Edler. Perfect mentor for Clarke and Spence.

I think he’s a safer risk than trading and extending someone like Chychrun or Gavrikov.

Always coveted him, Nordstrom 2.0.

 

[unicornpig]

Edmonton looks like they gknna make a move

 

[YAYSAY]

That's certainly what I would ask for. Given where NSH is they would need multiple pieces.

From the Kings standpoint, keeping Byfield and Clarke, it might look something like:

2x 1st
Spence
Kaliyev
Turcotte
Walker or expiring contract

For Saros and something else.

That would be one of the greatest returns for a goalie ever. Goalies simply aren't worth that much, they're way too bipolar and no one's game can drop off faster than a goalie, definitely not worth it if it were to cost something like that.

 

[kovacro]

The Predators are probably approaching Saros the same as they did with Jeannot; not looking to trade him, but if you make us an insane offer we'll do it.

Blake would have to go full on Milbury to get Saros IMO.

Apparently he, Josi and Forsberg are their only untouchables. Everyone else on the roster is fair game.

 

[Fishhead]

That would be one of the greatest returns for a goalie ever. Goalies simply aren't worth that much, they're way too bipolar and no one's game can drop off faster than a goalie, definitely not worth it if it were to cost something like that.

Yeah, I agree. It would take something like that to get them to listen, though. Think of the offers it would have taken to pry Quick from the Kings in his prime, it just rarely happens.

It's funny though, that's a great return nowadays. Back when guys like Luongo were traded pre-cap, teams wanted established talent (like Bertuzzi) going the other way. You didn't see a lot of picks in trades, back then they would have looked at the offer and called it a bunch of unproven stuff for a top goalie. The cap has really changed things.

 

[Fishhead]

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