Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread 2022-23 Season

[Kegs]

Coyotes gonna Coyote scratching a guy for a trade and then not f***ing trading him. Clown franchise.

Wouldn’t want to break the fine china before it’s sold.

 

[Mats26]

In my opinion reading that text doesnt say crap. He said a Kings and Coyote trade centered around Clarke. He didn’t say it was happening, but he also didn’t say it wasn’t. I just read it as if the Kings wanted Chychrun the package centers around Clarke. It’s a poor tweet as he was vague and open ended. Either he rushed ti get it out and didn’t put a lot into it or he really blew it.

Wild also asked for Clarke in the Fiala deal, and it was settled on Faber. That makes 2 teams officially asking for Clarke. Kid is legit, let the haters hate. At 24 he'll be a dynamite player... much more than Chychrun (24) ever was or is.

 

[AzKing]

You don't trade away an asset that has the best chance to anchor your blueline for years for a guy who is in reality a #3 but it as usual being overvalued and has been overvalued for over a year otherwise a team would have made the move for him rather than pivot to other guys. I would love to have Chychrun but the Kings aren't going to be in a position to draft that high again most likely so unless the deal is for other assets than Clarke or Byfield then have a nice day.

 

[Chazz Reinhold]

32 Thoughts Pod this morning confirms Kings have told teams Byfield and Clarke aren’t available. Also confirms Kings took the step of informing Clarke he’s not being traded because that Kypreos tweet (they didn’t specify Kypreos but it’s obvious what set things off) caused speculation to go crazy. Friedman says Kings and Coyotes were down the road on a deal but hit a snag on an ancillary contract involved (I’m guessing Walker or Cal). Seems like things are on pause for now but he said talks could restart at any time.

 

[BigBrown]

32 Thoughts Pod this morning confirms Kings have told teams Byfield and Clarke aren’t available. Also confirms Kings took the step of informing Clarke he’s not being traded because that Kypreos tweet (they didn’t specify Kypreos but it’s obvious what set things off) caused speculation to go crazy. Friedman says Kings and Coyotes were down the road on a deal but hit a snag on an ancillary contract involved (I’m guessing Walker or Cal). Seems like things are on pause for now but he said talks could restart at any time.

Good summary. Just to be clear, that it hit a snag due to an ancillary contract was Friedman's own theory and shouldn't be taken as gospel. It's certainly a plausible theory though.

If anyone's interested:

32 Thoughts: The Podcast

Hockey fans already know the name, but this is not the blog. From Sportsnet, 32 Thoughts: The Podcast with NHL Insider Elliotte Friedman & Kyle Bukauskas is a weekly deep dive into the biggest news and interviews from the hockey world.

www.sportsnet.ca

 

[Chazz Reinhold]

Good summary. Just to be clear, that it hit a snag due to an ancillary contract was Friedman's own theory and shouldn't be taken as gospel. It's certainly a plausible theory though.

If anyone's interested:

32 Thoughts: The Podcast

Hockey fans already know the name, but this is not the blog. From Sportsnet, 32 Thoughts: The Podcast with NHL Insider Elliotte Friedman & Kyle Bukauskas is a weekly deep dive into the biggest news and interviews from the hockey world.

www.sportsnet.ca

Good catch, thanks.

 

[AzKing]

If the Coyotes don't move him and at least get back a haul before the deadline, they have overplayed this because he is injury prone and his value is at a high right now. He is playing well after coming back and after the playoffs are over, the contenders are less likely to overpay. That said, if the offers are not good, then they have no other choice. I tend to think that there are equitable offers out there but they are tone deaf and think he is better than what he is and that's why teams are pivoting to guys like Karlsson.

 

[lumbergh]

Feels like the Coyotes are trying to drive up the price for Chychrun by using Twitter. Given Blake's MO, all of this talk comes from the Coyotes side, not from the Kings side, except for Blake informing Clarke that he's not getting traded. Very good chance this blows up in the Coyote's faces and drives Blake to retreat away from the talks.

 

[Peter James Bond II]

Feels like the Coyotes are trying to drive up the price for Chychrun by using Twitter. Given Blake's MO, all of this talk comes from the Coyotes side, not from the Kings side, except for Blake informing Clarke that he's not getting traded. Very good chance this blows up in the Coyote's faces and drives Blake to retreat away from the talks.

If that happens, the Coyotes fans and others should be calling him Bill Armweak.

 

[AzKing]

Feels like the Coyotes are trying to drive up the price for Chychrun by using Twitter. Given Blake's MO, all of this talk comes from the Coyotes side, not from the Kings side, except for Blake informing Clarke that he's not getting traded. Very good chance this blows up in the Coyote's faces and drives Blake to retreat away from the talks.

The Coyotes have one or two assets and that's it so it could be clouding their judgement. They are a bad franchise so it's not surprising. The Kings are not winning a Cup this year even if they get a goalie and Chychrun most likely so going all-in makes no sense. Pick up something on a tier underneath that won't wreck your framework if it's available or just move on and look for something before the draft.

 

[FSL KINGS]

I actually think ‘trade reasons’ is a curious way of phrasing things over him being left out of the lineup. It seems deliberately vague. It’d make more sense to me to say something like ‘possible trade in the works’. That is unless what has actually happened is something like him putting in a trade request or demanding they lower the asking price. Therefore they make it vague because any other statement covering it potentially hurts their trade position.

Obviously conjecture on my part but I just find the phrasing weird, unless it’s simply just poorly written which is entirely plausible.

They scratched him on a back to back after he skated 30 mins. Probably just didn't want to wear him down & didn't want teams thinking he was injured or playing bad. Also got everyone talking.

32 Thoughts Pod this morning confirms Kings have told teams Byfield and Clarke aren’t available. Also confirms Kings took the step of informing Clarke he’s not being traded because that Kypreos tweet (they didn’t specify Kypreos but it’s obvious what set things off) caused speculation to go crazy. Friedman says Kings and Coyotes were down the road on a deal but hit a snag on an ancillary contract involved (I’m guessing Walker or Cal). Seems like things are on pause for now but he said talks could restart at any time.

"Hit a snag" Cal's 10 team NTC?

We really need Nashville to drop off fast, but they had a good January. Johansson is overpaid, but would be a good 3C, King's have overpaid contracts they can send back. Ekholm would be another target. Also they have Saros, Askarov is coming soon & their current backup Lankinen has good numbers & is a UFA. Wouldn't mind nabbing him on a 2-3M contract to run with Pheonix. Would prefer Saros if available, but.

 

[lumbergh]

If that happens, the Coyotes fans and others should be calling him Bill Armweak.

I think if you look at Blake's history as GM, I can't remember any major trade where it was all over the rumor mills ahead of time. The Fiala and Arvidsson trades just sort of happened. Sure there was speculation that they were on the trade block, but it wasn't like rampant rumors were flying revolving around the Kings in either case before it happened.

This whole Chychrun thing over the past couple days feels like a GM trying to force another GM's hand. Healthy scratching a guy and then putting it out on Twitter using the team PR is just blasting out a message that trade talks are peaking.

I think it sucks that Blake had to tell Clarke that he's not getting traded. That's the kind of thing that would piss me off if I were in Blake's shoes.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

I forgot Peterson has a modified NTC. What a horrible contract. Blake is a doofus.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I love how ppl think they know how good prospects are on teams they don’t follow.
Are you an nhl scout or something?

Come on, bud. I know you're not gonna tell me Lysell or Lohrei > Clarke.

And the irony of you coming over here to say so...

 

[Schrute farms]

If the Coyotes don't move him and at least get back a haul before the deadline, they have overplayed this because he is injury prone and his value is at a high right now. He is playing well after coming back and after the playoffs are over, the contenders are less likely to overpay. That said, if the offers are not good, then they have no other choice. I tend to think that there are equitable offers out there but they are tone deaf and think he is better than what he is and that's why teams are pivoting to guys like Karlsson.

The longer they wait too, that cost controlled contract is soon going to switch from a positive to a negative. 1-2 years ago, that was a great thing having him signed for several years at under $5M. But he's getting closer now to that contract ending and is going to want (& get) a huge extension. It's still good, but time is ticking fast on them. Not to mention the likely chance he breaks again. But this is the Yotes so par for the course.

 

[Kegs]

Come on, bud. I know you're not gonna tell me Lysell or Lohrei > Clarke.

And the irony of you coming over here to say so...

Oh I have no clue. Prospects are a crap shoot. How can we tell? I’ve never seen any of them play. Plus it’s a whole new level at the nhl. Some times prospects work out and sometimes they don’t. Don’t worry I say the same things to my teams fan base.

 

[Statto]

They scratched him on a back to back after he skated 30 mins. Probably just didn't want to wear him down & didn't want teams thinking he was injured or playing bad. Also got everyone talking.


"Hit a snag" Cal's 10 team NTC?

We really need Nashville to drop off fast, but they had a good January. Johansson is overpaid, but would be a good 3C, King's have overpaid contracts they can send back. Ekholm would be another target. Also they have Saros, Askarov is coming soon & their current backup Lankinen has good numbers & is a UFA. Wouldn't mind nabbing him on a 2-3M contract to run with Pheonix. Would prefer Saros if available, but.

The snag was just him spit balling, it wasn’t based on sources or any specifics. So we shouldn’t read into that.

 

[KingsFan7824]

I think if you look at Blake's history as GM, I can't remember any major trade where it was all over the rumor mills ahead of time. The Fiala and Arvidsson trades just sort of happened. Sure there was speculation that they were on the trade block, but it wasn't like rampant rumors were flying revolving around the Kings in either case before it happened.

This whole Chychrun thing over the past couple days feels like a GM trying to force another GM's hand. Healthy scratching a guy and then putting it out on Twitter using the team PR is just blasting out a message that trade talks are peaking.

I think it sucks that Blake had to tell Clarke that he's not getting traded. That's the kind of thing that would piss me off if I were in Blake's shoes.

That's the kind of thing you're paid GM money to handle. It's part of the game. Part of the dance. Same if all of a sudden Clarke was traded. Visnovsky was dealt before the clause kicked in. Simmonds was best friends with Doughty, and there was a culture of growing up together and bonding that DL was cultivating, and he was out as soon as Richards was available to get.

Choices come down to money and/or winning.

 

[LAKings88]

I’m still hoping a deal can be made. Saw in another thread that Peterson has a 10 team no trade clause. I wonder if that could be the snag. I would think he can see the writing on the wall tho.
Who knows? I do think LA wants both Chychrun and Vejmelka.

 

[Fishhead]

I doubt a m-NTC would cause any issues. Peterson is riding a bus right now and knows he will be for the foreseeable future. I think any player would waive that clause just to get a shot at getting on an NHL roster. If he doesn't in the next year or so, his career is essentially over.

 

[AbsentMojo]

I doubt a m-NTC would cause any issues. Peterson is riding a bus right now and knows he will be for the foreseeable future. I think any player would waive that clause just to get a shot at getting on an NHL roster. If he doesn't in the next year or so, his career is essentially over.

He should maybe take classes in Russian?

 

[Fishhead]

He should maybe take classes in Russian?

Da.

 

[AbsentMojo]

I’m still hoping a deal can be made. Saw in another thread that Peterson has a 10 team no trade clause. I wonder if that could be the snag. I would think he can see the writing on the wall tho.
Who knows? I do think LA wants both Chychrun and Vejmelka.

A ten team m-NTC on top of it all - its like they imagined him a Vezina candidate

Da.

Cyrilic spelling for CP (best he get used to signing this way) Кэл Петерсен

 

[dman3474]

Wonder how the morning skate goes, if there are any call ups or anything.

 

[kinghock]

A ten team m-NTC on top of it all - its like they imagined him a Vezina candidate


Cyrilic spelling for CP (best he get used to signing this way) Кэл Петерсен

It is not exactly correct. It should be Кал Питерсен