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wow, that's an eye opening stat on Vlad Gav. For me, it's not even really about fighting. I don't need that (Although it is nice to have someone other teams are afraid of in that manner). But i need a guy who hits/checks a lot and HARD (not these bro bumps). Last year was ridiculus seeing us out hit like 2-1 and even 3-1 / 4-1 sometimes. This year seems a bit better from the eye test; but still really lacking.
 
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Honestly, there doesn't seem to be very many options for an upgrade for a LHD out there, that makes sense.
All of them have warts of some kind and there is also the overpayment factor for any of them, it seems.

I'm still pumped for a possible deep run. Consider losing to the Oil, without Doughty, Arvidsson and now adding Fiala, while only losing Brown, who was done, anyway. Also factor that Vilardi and Byfield were not so ready and scratched, most games. Vilardi is a totally new amimal. The way Byfield has played since being LW1, is very impressive. I'm wondering if they want to see him at 3C again in a few weeks, to see where he's at, centering Fiala and Vilardi. Once Moore and Kaliyev come back, there will be more options.

To me, it's like Doughty, Fiala, Arvidsson, Vilardi and Byfield have been added. And Durzi more experience....plus, all the young players having some playoff experience too, for that matter.

I'm comfortable going with Copley from here. Look at the top 10 goalies, statwise:
Linus Ullmark Stats and News
  • Linus Ullmark1.88
  • Filip Gustavsson2.17
  • Jake Oettinger2.28
  • Ilya Sorokin2.29
  • Pyotr Kochetkov2.30
  • Ilya Samsonov2.33
  • Vitek Vanecek2.37
  • Connor Hellebuyck2.41
  • Igor Shesterkin2.44
  • Matt Murray2.48
Honestly, not a lot of household names and 'why not Copley'? How many of those goalies, jump out at you, on that list? Copley's name is only a few more spots down.
He's given up very few soft-serves. Even the one last game, that puck was bouncing everywhere and was a bit of a fluke....not that he didn't error in givng a fat rebound to that guy. Still, he almost saved it....compare to all the soft serves Quick and Petersen have given up, time after time.

It's like the Kings can add here at the deadline, but I want a Regher, Mitchell or even a (prime) Scuderi and there's not a one like them, out there.
 
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Reaper45 said:
Schenn? Gudas is rumored on the block.
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Schenn is a journeyman who's been waived multiple times, so I wouldn't call him good.

Gudas seems decent. He's definitely physical, but he's mid / averaged sized Dman.

Both these guys are RHD's.
 
johnjm22 said:
There really isn't any big, physical, mean, tough Dmen out there anymore that are actually good at hockey.

At least I can't think of any.
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Sergachev, Cernak, Manson, Trouba, Oleksiak, Mayfield, McNabb kind of fit the bill of what you are describing. Cal Foote, Romanov and Xhekaj are some young guys who seem like they might end up the same. Tampa seems to have an eye for that style of defensemen, hell even Hedman can muck it up if he needs to.
 
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crassbonanza said:
Sergachev, Cernak, Manson, Trouba, Oleksiak, Mayfield, McNabb kind of fit the bill of what you are describing. Cal Foote, Romanov and Xhekaj are some young guys who seem like they might end up the same. Tampa seems to have an eye for that style of defensemen, hell even Hedman can muck it up if he needs to.
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A left-shooting Cernak is the exact type of player we need. Big, tough, physical, but actually good at hockey.

Funny you mention Xhekaj. I was just looking at him. LHD. 6'4 238lbs. 11.86 hits/60. 8 fights already. 10 goal pace. Don't know much about him, be he sounds good.
 
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johnjm22 said:
A left-shooting Cernak is the exact type of player we need. Big, tough, physical, but actually good at hockey.

Funny you mention Xhekaj. I was just looking at him. LHD. 6'4 238lbs. 11.86 hits/60. 8 fights already. 10 goal pace. Don't know much about him, be he sounds good.
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He is a really fun story, was working at costco a year or so back and now is making an impact in the NHL. He's up there with MacDermid as one of the toughest guys in the league and his relative possession numbers are decent for a rookie. I imagine there are more than a few teams interested if he becomes available.
 
bland said:
There is absolutely nothing to this stuff, people need to stop inventing a narrative here. Faber didn't sign in Minnesota yet either, he has clearly stated his desire was to return to college, not to avoid Los Angeles.

It was a poor decision to trade him. People can one-in-the-hand this one until the cows come home, but players with Faber's ability are exceedingly rare nowadays and are exactly what every team trying to win is looking for to shore up their chances.

I say this knowing full well how good Fiala is, and admittedly he is even better in LA than he was in Minnesota - players who bring what Fiala does are simply much, much easier to find. They are available every year. Maybe not the same style points, but the same results aren't difficult to acquire.

Look a year or two down the road. The Kings have multiple wingers set for top 6 duty even if they don't look outside the organization. Offense WAS a weakness, just a little bit of patience and proper development would have still seen a loaded top 9 here. There is nobody even remotely close to being a top 4 shutdown, 25+ minute defender who can skate with any opponent in the world. Faber can only be projected now, obviously, but look at those projections. He is a top 12-20 prospect in the world for a reason.
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they are? how come the kings never acquire them then.
 
johnjm22 said:
Schenn is a journeyman who's been waived multiple times, so I wouldn't call him good.

Gudas seems decent. He's definitely physical, but he's mid / averaged sized Dman.

Both these guys are RHD's.
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I’m not overly wrapped up on it having to be a LD. Yes it’s ideal but they’re on short supply. Schenn is having a pretty solid year.
 
lumbergh said:
Jake McCabe is your man.
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I wouldn't say he fits that criteria exactly.

But he is an interesting option, and I've looked at him before. Definitely a better option than Gavrikov IMO.

He was quite good before his injury, but struggled last year coming back from it. If he's returned to his pre-injury form (as some Hawks fans say he has) he could be a good addition.

He's somehow managed to be a +4 on arguably the worst team in the league.
 
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Jake McCabe is a solid option, but he's just a bit over the ideal age. He'd be fine for 3-4 years for sure. He was the only guy who could put up decent numbers on some terrible Buffalo teams.

He'd probably be in shock playing in the playoffs, he's never been there.
 
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LeBrun rumblings: What I'm hearing about the Oilers, Karlsson, Chychrun, Provorov, Kuzmenko and more

Other NHL trade updates include the asking price for John Klingberg, the market for Brock Boeser and interest in Matt Dumba.
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Speaking of which, while the price generally remains two first-round picks plus a prospect in exchange for Chychrun, I’m told the Coyotes are willing to be flexible depending on the quality of the prospect, for example. So there appears to be another avenue to make a deal happen, but the assets offered would have to equal the original asking price in the eyes of Arizona.
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I read that as two 1st round equivalent assets + a 2nd round equivalent asset.
 
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LeBrun rumblings: What I'm hearing about the Oilers, Karlsson, Chychrun, Provorov, Kuzmenko and more

Other NHL trade updates include the asking price for John Klingberg, the market for Brock Boeser and interest in Matt Dumba.
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I read that as two 1st round equivalent assets + a 2nd round equivalent asset.
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Yeah he isn’t worth that..
when I compare Dmen in my head I use the Cup winning D we had as the measuring sticks..
#1 Doughty
#2 Muzzin
#3 Voynov, Mitchell, Scuderi, Regher
#4 Greene

Where does Chychrun fit in, imo it ain’t 1 or 2 so he isn’t worth it
 
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kings11 said:
Yeah he isn’t worth that..
when I compare Dmen in my head I use the Cup winning D we had as the measuring sticks..
#1 Doughty
#2 Muzzin
#3 Voynov, Mitchell, Scuderi, Regher
#4 Greene

Where does Chychrun fit in, imo it ain’t 1 or 2 so he isn’t worth it
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I would say Chychrun is more highly regarded than Muzzin.

Muzzin got a 1st and two 2nds.

I'm not saying I would necessarily do it, but two 1sts and a 2nd is about the price I would expect AZ to ask.
 
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