Speculation: LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread 2022-23 Season

[BringTheReign]

The Kings are the only team in the league that is top 3 in their division but with a negative goal differential. I'm sure that won't be a problem.

a reminder of how bad the goaltending was early on

If you take Quick (-10.6) and Cal’s (-9.3) negative goals saved above expected (xGA) and subtract them from our goal differential you get our actual goal differential by quality of play.

We’re at a true +19 goal differential by my hand-wavy justification [-1 + 10.3 + 9.6 = 18.9].

 

[unicornpig]

will be interesting to see if the kings go after anyone this trade deadline. blake will probably be bargain binning for a LHD. other than that i dont see the kings have any needs

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

will be interesting to see if the kings go after anyone this trade deadline. blake will probably be bargain binning for a LHD. other than that i dont see the kings have any needs

I think he's got to make that one move.....team has done it on it's own, and if there is a move to be made that makes sense, I think he has to do it, two reasons, A. it makes sense, and B. it tells his guys on the team now, they have a shot.....

Does that mean trading Turcotte for Luke Schenn....of course not......but he's gotta make that effort....

 

[Schrute farms]

I used to want an offensive LHD and that's the one spot i'd be willing to give up some valuable assets. But now, it's changed to a LHD with size who is not a pus#y, can clear the defensive zone and is a bit of an enforcer (when needed).

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

I used to want an offensive LHD and that's the one spot i'd be willing to give up some valuable assets. But now, it's changed to a LHD with size who is not a pus#y, can clear the defensive zone and is a bit of an enforcer (when needed).

And next week....it will change......and I'm not 100% joking....that's the nature of the game, when you think you need something "offense" and then you sacrifice defense to get it, now you need defense, then when you sacrifice offense to get it, you need more offense....

They just have to find the right balance....they don't have it yet.

 

[kilowatt]

What's so crazy about our current roster is that we effectively have $11,645,833 million in wasted cap (Quick, Petersen, Phaneuf, Richards, and Wagner) and the 12th-lowest cap hit ($1,638,327 in cap space). Where could this team be if $13,284,160 were allocated to solving our defense and goalie woes?

Can you imagine a world in which we had traded for Ryan McDonagh ($6,750,000) this offseason? Tampa got back Philippe Myers, who is comparable to Durzi.

Anderson - Doughty
McDonagh - Spence
Bjornfot - Roy
Edler, Walker

 

[Schmooley]

They just have to find the right balance....they don't have it yet.

Luckily for the Kings there arent any teams in the west that have the right balance this year.
They dont have it yet but are close and also closer than a lot of their competition.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Luckily for the Kings there arent any teams in the west that have the right balance this year.
They dont have it yet but are close and also closer than a lot of their competition.

I would argue Colorado is probably the closest, along with Dallas......

 

[KingsFan7824]

The Kings are the only team in the league that is top 3 in their division but with a negative goal differential. I'm sure that won't be a problem.

a reminder of how bad the goaltending was early on

I'm not going through every team, because who even knows how worthwhile of a little stat this is(it's arbitrary, but 5+ goals makes my point better), but the Kings have no wins by 5+ goals, while they have 6-1, 5-0, and 6-0 losses. Oddly enough, each of the 3 goalies this year has 1 of those losses.

In those 3 games, they were outscored 17-1. Now a +15 differential in the remaining 41 games they've played wouldn't even put them into the top 10, so it's not exactly impressive, but, it's better than the -1. Although every game does count.

I'm sure this pick and choose game could be played with many half way decent teams, other than Bos who is just crushing everyone.

Stats are stats. You can make them say whatever you want them to. The flaw in cumulative stats would be that they show what you did, not are doing or will do. If you score 82 goals in 82 games, you average 1 goal per game, but you're not guaranteed to score a goal in any given game. It's why you're only as good as your last shift, period, game, week, month, year, etc, depending on what you're talking about. Or, only as good as your next shift, period, etc.

 

[Lt Dan]

In those 3 games, they were outscored 17-1.

I totally forgot about those games. I will call it a mental defense mechanism

 

[lumbergh]

I used to want an offensive LHD and that's the one spot i'd be willing to give up some valuable assets. But now, it's changed to a LHD with size who is not a pus#y, can clear the defensive zone and is a bit of an enforcer (when needed).

As I mentioned in a previous post, the Kings should look into a player like Jake McCabe on the Blackhawks. Checks all your boxes. He’s sort of a lefty Matt Roy. Very very effective, stuck on a bad team.

I would do a Sean Walker, top Ontario prospect (not Spence), and a 3rd round pick for McCabe.

 

[Trash Panda]

As I mentioned in a previous post, the Kings should look into a player like Jake McCabe on the Blackhawks. Checks all your boxes. He’s sort of a lefty Matt Roy. Very very effective, stuck on a bad team.

I would do a Sean Walker, top Ontario prospect (not Spence), and a 3rd round pick for McCabe.

It would honestly be easier to just Waive Walker and promote Bjornfot, and then we wouldn’t have yet another bloated contract that doesn’t match with the value of the player.

I don’t dislike McCabe, it’s just not a move that needs to be made.

 

[Brodeur]

Can you imagine a world in which we had traded for Ryan McDonagh ($6,750,000) this offseason? Tampa got back Philippe Myers, who is comparable to Durzi.

Anderson - Doughty
McDonagh - Spence
Bjornfot - Roy
Edler, Walker

McDonagh did have a NTC and seemingly had to be convinced to be traded to Nashville (no state tax). I think Tampa more or less threatened that they might be forced to waive him so he needed to give them a list. LA might not have been in the conversation; CapFriendly's tax estimator has a close to 3 million post-tax difference for McDonagh between playing in LA vs. Nashville for the remainder of his deal.

Durzi had more value than Myers who had cleared waivers with Nashville. Tampa thought they might be able to turn Myers around but he struggled / Nick Perbix was better than expected.

 

[LeftKinger]

What would you guys offer for Provorov? Trade board thread shows an article indicating he’ll probably be dealt. 25 years old and 2 years left on his deal.

 

[GKJ]

What would you guys offer for Provorov? Trade board thread shows an article indicating he’ll probably be dealt. 25 years old and 2 years left on his deal.

I don't think they'll rush to deal him unless the situation is untenable. Which my read on it is that it could happen. But it's hard to move term in-season.

Would love to see it happen though.

 

[bmr]

Byfield really needs to step up his physical game or he will never dominate at the NHL level. I don't know if it's going to take more seasoning or a change in mental approach, but this is holding him back. Someone almost needs to inject him with some adrenaline and then turn him loose. He is totally capable of this.

 

[Lt Dan]

What's so crazy about our current roster is that we effectively have $11,645,833 million in wasted cap (Quick, Petersen, Phaneuf, Richards, and Wagner) and the 12th-lowest cap hit ($1,638,327 in cap space). Where could this team be if $13,284,160 were allocated to solving our defense and goalie woes?

Can you imagine a world in which we had traded for Ryan McDonagh ($6,750,000) this offseason? Tampa got back Philippe Myers, who is comparable to Durzi.

I do wonder if that would really change anything , but I also have the perspective of a legless Lt

I can only assume, that the plan going in to the season was to give Petersen the chance to steal the #1 job and to let the d-men beat each other out for the 6+1 spots and to trade some of the extra d-men (walker and maybe Durzi) for an upgrade there.
The biggest hole scoring/ Brown's departure was upgraded to Fiala

 

[johnjm22]

On the SN broadcast last night they were talking about how the Kings have such great forward depth.

We're having success in these games recently without Moore in the lineup.

That's why I'm a bit iffy on the Moore contract. As much as I love the player, that's a roster spot they should've been able to replace internally.

 

[Bandit]

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I totally forgot about those games. I will call it a mental defense mechanism

you have a mental?

 

[King'sPawn]

Byfield really needs to step up his physical game or he will never dominate at the NHL level. I don't know if it's going to take more seasoning or a change in mental approach, but this is holding him back. Someone almost needs to inject him with some adrenaline and then turn him loose. He is totally capable of this.

I'm not sure I follow this critique. Are you saying he needs to hit players more?

Because he plays physical. He's winning more puck battles by applying his size.

 

[Schmooley]

I'm not sure I follow this critique. Are you saying he needs to hit players more?

Because he plays physical. He's winning more puck battles by applying his size.

Yea he plays physical but to me hes lacking a certain mean streak.
Right now hes winning puck battles and backchecking and playing exactly how the coaches are telling him. Pretty much to a fault. He is not using his own identity hes just playing a very literal version of whatever hes being taught.
Just safe dump ins or short safe feather passes. His hitting on the forecheck is efficient but not relentless.
He has the size and speed to really impose himself and grab the bull by the horns.
Hes still pretty slim though. He has all the tools to take over games if it all comes together one day.
I know you were not talking to me but I had to interject my 2 cents anyway sorry!!

 

[Schrute farms]

As I mentioned in a previous post, the Kings should look into a player like Jake McCabe on the Blackhawks. Checks all your boxes. He’s sort of a lefty Matt Roy. Very very effective, stuck on a bad team.

I would do a Sean Walker, top Ontario prospect (not Spence), and a 3rd round pick for McCabe.

I'd be down with that trade -- if the Ontario prospect was one of Madden, Thomas, Chromiac, etc. types.

Turc, Spence, Fagemo, Kupari & Bjornfot would be off limits -- unless it's a trade for someone better and younger top LHD. Pinelli & Helenius would also be off limits, for me, unless we're talking an elite, young type guy. But i'm willing to go that route of giving up some good items for the big, physical elite LHD. Finding that guy and him being available in a trade is the hard part obviously. But we do have lots of good, young, cheap pieces that teams desire.

 

[mysterman2]

Next 3 Games....Sharks, Devils, Stars

I see it as W, L, OTL. Done well against the West as of late but not so much against the East and guessing Quick may pick up a start in one of the 3.

 

[lumbergh]

What would you guys offer for Provorov? Trade board thread shows an article indicating he’ll probably be dealt. 25 years old and 2 years left on his deal.

Now here is a guy I don't get the hype for. He's 25, people keep waiting for him to become Sergachev, yet never happens. The underlying numbers aren't great and he's got a pretty big contract. He's not gonna get power play time on this team, so the offense won't blow anyone away. He's gonna cost a lot, but not give you good value back. This is exactly the kind of trade you don't make if you're the Kings.

The only way this works, salary wise, is if the Flyers are willing to take a cap dump or retain salary.

 

[kings11]

On the SN broadcast last night they were talking about how the Kings have such great forward depth.

We're having success in these games recently without Moore in the lineup.

That's why I'm a bit iffy on the Moore contract. As much as I love the player, that's a roster spot they should've been able to replace internally.

Because I don’t think they plan on retaining Arvy. Just look at the roster with everyone healthy, it’s pretty stacked

Byfield-Kopitar-Kempe
Moore-Danault-Arvidsson
Fiala-Lizotte-Vilardi
Iafallo-Kupari-Kaliyev
Pepe - Grunds- JAD