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Because I don’t think they plan on retaining Arvy. Just look at the roster with everyone healthy, it’s pretty stacked

Byfield-Kopitar-Kempe
Moore-Danault-Arvidsson
Fiala-Lizotte-Vilardi
Iafallo-Kupari-Kaliyev
Pepe - Grunds- JAD
The more packed the roster is the more it is too soon to talk about guys expiring next season.

More evaluation and seeing how things shake out in the playoffs and next season are whats needed.

If you are correct , the obvious move would be to trade Arvy before the deadline next year.

Definitely don't want to see that because he and Danault have been very good and a team catalyst with both Moore and Iafallo on the other wing.

When Moore comes back, I would try him with Kopitar and move Byfield to center Fiala and Kempe, who also work like a Swiss watch together.

As long as QB recovers from getting his bell rung last night. He was definitely off after that.
 
I'm not sure I follow this critique. Are you saying he needs to hit players more?

Because he plays physical. He's winning more puck battles by applying his size.
I'm not necessarily talking about hitting players more - I just think he needs to be more relentless in his game approach. Danault is probably a good example of this. Maybe it's just going to take more seasoning/experience...it just feels like he hasn't figured it out yet on the NHL level, although we have all seen flashes of what he's capable of. There is just something not there yet...like the X-factor. Almost reminds me of Vilardi before he took a major step forward.

Yea he plays physical but to me hes lacking a certain mean streak.
Right now hes winning puck battles and backchecking and playing exactly how the coaches are telling him. Pretty much to a fault. He is not using his own identity hes just playing a very literal version of whatever hes being taught.
Just safe dump ins or short safe feather passes. His hitting on the forecheck is efficient but not relentless.
He has the size and speed to really impose himself and grab the bull by the horns.
Hes still pretty slim though. He has all the tools to take over games if it all comes together one day.
I know you were not talking to me but I had to interject my 2 cents anyway sorry!!

Agree with this. Key words are relentless and impose.
 
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I'm not necessarily talking about hitting players more - I just think he needs to be more relentless in his game approach. Danault is probably a good example of this. Maybe it's just going to take more seasoning/experience...it just feels like he hasn't figured it out yet on the NHL level, although we have all seen flashes of what he's capable of. There is just something not there yet...like the X-factor. Almost reminds me of Vilardi before he took a major step forward.



Agree with this. Key words are relentless and impose.
There are numerous examples from the past two weeks of him being relentless and strong on pucks, winning more puck battles on the boards, causing turnovers on the forecheck, and playing a direct part in goals being scored because of it. I even recall a specific example early-ish last night where he busted his ass and broke up an odd-man rush for the Oilers. There's more to being physical than just using your body; there's also being physical and strong on your stick and positionally.

Your complaint about him sounds like pre-AHL-recall QB, not the one who has been here since late December.
 
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Yea he plays physical but to me hes lacking a certain mean streak.
Right now hes winning puck battles and backchecking and playing exactly how the coaches are telling him. Pretty much to a fault. He is not using his own identity hes just playing a very literal version of whatever hes being taught.
Just safe dump ins or short safe feather passes. His hitting on the forecheck is efficient but not relentless.
He has the size and speed to really impose himself and grab the bull by the horns.
Hes still pretty slim though. He has all the tools to take over games if it all comes together one day.
I know you were not talking to me but I had to interject my 2 cents anyway sorry!!
Oh heck no. Even when he’s on the top line you guys are blaming the coaches for his lack of production.
I don’t see a thing in his game that says he’s going to more than an average NHL player. He just doesn’t have the vision or a shot to make an offensive impact.
He doesn’t have the mindset to play a lower lines. He doesn’t have the offensive skill to play the top lines.
 
Oh heck no. Even when he’s on the top line you guys are blaming the coaches for his lack of production.
I don’t see a thing in his game that says he’s going to more than an average NHL player. He just doesn’t have the vision or a shot to make an offensive impact.
He doesn’t have the mindset to play a lower lines. He doesn’t have the offensive skill to play the top lines.
I wasnt blaming coaches at all
 
There are numerous examples from the past two weeks of him being relentless and strong on pucks, winning more puck battles on the boards, causing turnovers on the forecheck, and playing a direct part in goals being scored because of it. I even recall a specific example early-ish last night where he busted his ass and broke up an odd-man rush for the Oilers. There's more to being physical than just using your body; there's also being physical and strong on your stick and positionally.

Your complaint about him sounds like pre-AHL-recall QB, not the one who has been here since late December.
Don't get me wrong - I think he's definitely trending in the right direction and i'm a QB fan. I just think he's the type of player that really needs to be pushed in a certain way for him to hit or exceed his potential. It would be a shame for LA Kings fans and the league in general if that never comes to fruition. He is a special player because of his size and skillset.
 
When Byfield stops running around like a chicken with its head cut off he’ll start scoring. He’s playing like a rookie, playing a step behind the puck a lot. He is starting with a lot of tools and also getting good on the defensive side of the puck. Slow the game down. Let the game come to you. Let Iafallo do his job so you can cash in.

Same thing happened with Vilardi in his second year. It’ll come.
 
a reminder of how bad the goaltending was early on

This is not entirely true. Up until the big wins vs Vegas and Edmonton, the Kings were still -5 since Copley was called up. And even including those wins they’re still only +2 with Copley.

Assuming that continues to trend up, great. But they’ve been bouncing around +0 even with league average goaltending.
 
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Dean Lombardi interview.


Some takeaways:

- Lombardi used to give the boys the company credit card and let them run it up. Only rules were no drinking/drugging and no fights. Specifically named Greene as a guy he would entrust with the card.

- Like most of us, Lombardi considered the Stoll/Greene trade as the beginning of the culture change in LA.

- Confirmed he actually did cry when he heard about the Stoll/cocaine stuff in Vegas. Said he looked at Stoll as a son, and was very disappointed in him.

- Regrets stripping Brown of the C. Said at the time he wanted Kopitar to take another step as a top player in the league, and giving him the C would maybe trigger that. But overall “didn’t handle it well.” Wasn’t as forthright with Brown about it as he should’ve been.

- Casual bombshell about almost trading Voynov for a “mid line checker.” Oof.

- Asked point blank about the Voynov DV situation. Went on a long diatribe basically inferring he didn’t know how to deal with the public relations aspect of being a GM. Said Voynov situation “led to all kinds of stuff with the owner and lawyers.” Follows it up by saying “but [Voynov] was a really great kid” (big yikes, Dean). THEN said the child of Voynov’s girlfriend really loved Voynov (presumably as a father), and Voynov wound up getting married to the girl anyway. Talked about cultural differences in Russia. Didn’t say it outright, but sort of inferred all parties involved thought the situation was overblown (yiiiikes). Really awkward section. You could tell Lombardi still doesn’t know what to say about this even a decade later. Clearly conflicted about his paternal feelings for Voynov and the reality of the situation.

- Compared the Kings to the dynasty 49ers and said those 49ers dealt with a lot of off-field bullshit that nearly sunk the team. Said winning changes everything. Said he “got sloppy.” Said he wasn’t as diligent as he should’ve been with Richards and Voynov in particular. Said he should’ve done more to keep his players on track after they started winning.

- Said the NFL is so much more advanced than the NHL in terms of having staff in place to deal with lifestyle problems (specifically addiction).

- Said he tried to develop his own addiction program internally with the Kings. PA stopped it.

- Asked about the Richards border situation but never quite answered it directly. Didn’t weasel out of it. Just sort of talked more broadly about addiction/lifestyle issues in the league overall. Hosts didn’t press him on Richards as much as they did Voynov.

- Asked about the infamous Pronger to LA rumor back in the day. Said names are always out there, and large team staffs make it difficult to keep secrets. Told a story about Armstrong in St Louis rooting out a mole on his staff by deliberately planting false trade rumors (lmao).

- Asked about trash can incident. Said he’s heard a few different versions of the story. Still isn’t quite sure what happened. But said he always refused to let his players staff split him and Sutter.

- Confirmed he’s done as a GM in the NHL. Said he had “5 or 6 teams” that contacted him after he was fired. Told them all no.
 
Great summary, @SettlementRichie10 ! Small nit/correction, though. He didn't regret stripping the C of Brown, just in how it was handled.

Edit: forgot to add that the way Dean talked about Voynov was a big yikes to me, too. He seemed to downplay it and made it seem it was 'a mistake' but then the next breath says it's 'part of the culture'.

It was still a good interview, but that section felt wrong.
 
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Great summary, @SettlementRichie10 ! Small nit/correction, though. He didn't regret stripping the C of Brown, just in how it was handled.

Edit: forgot to add that the way Dean talked about Voynov was a big yikes to me, too. He seemed to downplay it and made it seem it was 'a mistake' but then the next breath says it's 'part of the culture'.

It was still a good interview, but that section felt wrong.

Yeah, that may be a bit of an editorialization on my part. But I did get an overall sense of regret from him there, not just about the way it was handled, but the decision itself.
 
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Just finished listening to it all. Very solid interview. Loved all the stories. Honestly, could listen to Dean all day. Liked his story about meeting Quick. Not impressed or phased by Hextall, walked out of the locker room after an okay game with his shoelaces untied, and when asked about the game he just simply stated that it didn't matter he got the W. XD

Kind of liked what he said about Sutter and the players. Said players and the coach would butt heads from time to time and guys would come up to him and be like "do you know what he did today!?!" but he never got in between the coach and the players. He doesn't know for sure if the trashcan incident happened but he was like whatever, another incident, that's how Sutter kept players on their toes...

He said Sutter was really intelligent and when they asked about Crawford he was like Meh... XD
 
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Haven’t listened to it, just going off the summaries from posters. But would’ve loved to hear about feelings towards Sekera, Lucic and Bishop trades. Regrets with those, upset Boston traded Jones to San Jose. Did he actually try to sign Bishop. Did he actually want Kovy.

Still will never forgive Dean and Sutter for taking Browns C from him.
 
Man i want Provorov. Pair him with Doughty and then have Anderson on the second pair with a durzi or spence!!
Kings do not need him:

You surely did not watch regularly the way Provorov played during last 2 years.

Philadelphia fans are dreaming to trade him.

Give valuable assets for him does not make sense.

LA do not have salary space for this trade.
 
I wonder if Grans, Grundstrom and a 3rd is enough for Gavrikov..
Grans could be a Lindholm style player
Tonka is a good bottom 6
3rd is to add a little more value

Like most Kings prospects in Ontario, Grans can probably step into a bottom 2 role with CBJ right now and not miss a beat
 
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