LA KINGS 2023/4 Regular season discussion

[kingsholygrail]

I'm sure when the next regime takes over you won't complain about them at all.

I'd welcome the opportunity to complain about someone new.

 

[CarlSneep]

Try Fiala with Byfield and see if there's something there, Fiala has seemed somewhat lost playing on a defensive line with Danault since they put them together.

 

[BaileyFan]

I like this (edit: except JAD).. its an attempt of dealing with reality vs continue to pretend 80 was your top 6 center.. it does impugn Blake

I fear Dubois scoring 7 points in his next 10 games on Kopi’s wing and the usual suspects going “SEE? Blake knew what he was doing, they found the perfect fit for PLD!”

 

[kingsholygrail]

I know this is in jest, but it is funny because Blake has stated an admiration for the Predators organizational philosophies.

It's funny because they're built from the net out.

 

[AbsentMojo]

I fear Dubois scoring 7 points in his next 10 games on Kopi’s wing and the usual suspects going “SEE? Blake knew what he was doing, they found the perfect fit for PLD!”

Having him on wing would take any wind out of any 'i told you so' comments so I dont expect many if this does happen w PLD. Both Kopi and Kempe are slumping, so im not expecting him to lift them up.. If they come out of their slumps he might get some nice secondary assits and the occasional goals

 

[BaileyFan]

Having him on wing would take any wind out of any 'i told you so' comments so I dont expect many if this does happen w PLD. Both Kopi and Kempe are slumping, so im not expecting him to lift them up.. If they come out of their slumps he might get some nice secondary assits and the occasional goals

Dubois will absolutely score more playing wing with Kopi and Kempe even if it’s by accident. The point is the same PLDefenders who dismissed anyone who criticized him as “fantasy hockey fans” will be the same ones pointing to his inflated point totals as evidence that hey, maybe Blakey was on to something here.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Dubois will absolutely score more playing wing with Kopi and Kempe even if it’s by accident. The point is the same PLDefenders who dismissed anyone who criticized him as “fantasy hockey fans” will be the same ones pointing to his inflated point totals as evidence that hey, maybe Blakey was on to something here.

So, if PLD starts scoring, playing with whomever, people shouldn't be pointing that out as saying hey that might be the real player?

Kind of confusing here, unless your total argument is, PLD isn't scoring as a C and that's why it's bad, and If he's scoring on an 80-90 point pace, I give a f*** less if hes playing W, C, D or Rover

 

[chris kontos]

On nhl radio earlier, bernstien was on discussing "the tire fire in la" as kouleas put it. Bernstien was spouting some wierd stats but agreed thatthe kings are in trouble. More interestingly, the talked about pld and craig button said "id put pld on daneau's wing and if he didnt shape up he'd put him on the pk. And if THAT didnt work hed banish him to the press box. Gabby boudreau said that he tries to find the players achilliles heel but he thought that dealing with pld harshly would make him pout.
It was interesting to hear pld's performance recognized as a problem on north american hockey media.
Imo ya cant make somebody like something and isaw pld dig his heels in and refuse to play when torts tried to motivate him. I think this guy is what he is and blake, luc and bergevevin have saddled us as fan with this malcontent. Id damn sure hate to be in that locker room with him as a teammate

 

[King'sPawn]

So, if PLD starts scoring, playing with whomever, people shouldn't be pointing that out as saying hey that might be the real player?

Kind of confusing here, unless your total argument is, PLD isn't scoring as a C and that's why it's bad, and If he's scoring on an 80-90 point pace, I give a f*** less if hes playing W, C, D or Rover

The point is that Vilardi and co were traded for PLD because they wanted depth at center. Per Blake's own words at the time of the trade:

“As last year progressed, I think we identified certain needs at the trade deadline and certain needs as we went throughout the season and into the playoffs,” Blake said. “Now, that continues in the summer, trying to add pieces that will improve us, specifically, in the middle of the ice. I think with Todd and the organization we believe in the defense and in the middle of the ice and this gives us a piece up the middle.”

Kings GM Rob Blake with an in-depth breakdown of today's acquisition of Pierre-Luc Dubois - LA Kings Insider

We’ve got a trade and now we’ve got trade reactions. Notes from Pierre-Luc Dobois himself to come next, but starting with Rob Blake’s comments from Nashville. This is of course a trade that had several layers to it, including both the trade itself, with Dubois coming to the Kings, and a package...

lakingsinsider.com

So, Blake paid a high price for a position he was aiming to solidify, but now he's not in that position.

Could it turn into a happy accident that he does better on the wing? Sure. But that's not why such a heavy price was paid. And since he's getting outscored by one of the pieces and a second one is just a couple points away, it feels like a waste at this time.

But sure, if he starts scoring at a 90-point pace, that would lessen the sting. But he'd have to score 43 points in the final 40 games to hit that. Right now, he's scoring at a 37-point pace. So he'd have to more than double his season's pace

 

[Bandit]

Put Fagemo in the lineup you cowards.

Kid has been on an absolute tear the past couple of months and is super hungry.

Gotta cool his ass off in the press box first! JAD to the rescue.

 

[shuchukfan]

I just had a scary thought. We all know TMac has blown playoff series leads before, but what about an entire SEASON? Kings are doing well. All looks good, then wham! They lose 20 straight to end the season and miss the playoffs by a point.

You're welcome.

Ahem.

 

[RocketKing]

The trade was a joke when it first was made/announced. The only ones supporting it were either Blake apologists or way overly optimistic people (desperately hoping Blake knew what he was doing). Even posters/fans from other teams laughed at the Kings for the trade & extension by Blake.

There is no surprise with anything PLD related right now. It's playing out exactly how anyone in the real world would think it would -- and will continue to do so. If you are surprised, then you were not paying attention to PLD prior to becoming a King.

Pierre Luc Douchebag is a weak ass loser

 

[tkb81]

Dubois will absolutely score more playing wing with Kopi and Kempe even if it’s by accident. The point is the same PLDefenders who dismissed anyone who criticized him as “fantasy hockey fans” will be the same ones pointing to his inflated point totals as evidence that hey, maybe Blakey was on to something here.

so your already pre complaining ?.. haha at least let it happen first

 

[RocketKing]

On nhl radio earlier, bernstien was on discussing "the tire fire in la" as kouleas put it. Bernstien was spouting some wierd stats but agreed thatthe kings are in trouble. More interestingly, the talked about pld and craig button said "id put pld on daneau's wing and if he didnt shape up he'd put him on the pk. And if THAT didnt work hed banish him to the press box. Gabby boudreau said that he tries to find the players achilliles heel but he thought that dealing with pld harshly would make him pout.
It was interesting to hear pld's performance recognized as a problem on north american hockey media.
Imo ya cant make somebody like something and isaw pld dig his heels in and refuse to play when torts tried to motivate him. I think this guy is what he is and blake, luc and bergevevin have saddled us as fan with this malcontent. Id damn sure hate to be in that locker room with him as a teammate

We need to find a way to trade him to Montreal

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

The point is that Vilardi and co were traded for PLD because they wanted depth at center. Per Blake's own words at the time of the trade:

Kings GM Rob Blake with an in-depth breakdown of today's acquisition of Pierre-Luc Dubois - LA Kings Insider

We’ve got a trade and now we’ve got trade reactions. Notes from Pierre-Luc Dobois himself to come next, but starting with Rob Blake’s comments from Nashville. This is of course a trade that had several layers to it, including both the trade itself, with Dubois coming to the Kings, and a package...

lakingsinsider.com

So, Blake paid a high price for a position he was aiming to solidify, but now he's not in that position.

Could it turn into a happy accident that he does better on the wing? Sure. But that's not why such a heavy price was paid. And since he's getting outscored by one of the pieces and a second one is just a couple points away, it feels like a waste at this time.

But sure, if he starts scoring at a 90-point pace, that would lessen the sting. But he'd have to score 43 points in the final 40 games to hit that. Right now, he's scoring at a 37-point pace. So he'd have to more than double his season's pace

That I get, I'm just saying, the guy originally said if PLD starts coring like that, other posters will be like see......etc, and I'm saying if PLD starts scoring like, WTF cares what position he lines up at on the draw.

 

[BaileyFan]

So, if PLD starts scoring, playing with whomever, people shouldn't be pointing that out as saying hey that might be the real player?

Kind of confusing here, unless your total argument is, PLD isn't scoring as a C and that's why it's bad, and If he's scoring on an 80-90 point pace, I give a f*** less if hes playing W, C, D or Rover

I said that he would score “more” than his current microscopic totals and you took that to mean he would transform into a 90 point player?

Even if that were to happen the trade and contract are still a net loss.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

I said that he would score “more” than his current microscopic totals and you took that to mean he would transform into a 90 point player?

Even if that were to happen the trade and contract are still a net loss.

Not what you said, but it's ok, you are right tonight, hats off to you....you complain about someone increasing their scoring.....cuz ,that's the thing to complain about. Besides, who knows, well, besides you, who knows if it will even happen....

 

[DyslexicTom]

Merzlikins wants out.

Live shot of Blake:

 

[Nasti]

They probably want to artificially boost PLD’s numbers so the exit interviews are less of a train wreck.

 

[bland]

If Dubois plays well on LW, that's great news.

 

[SaltyElkHunter]

Poser Looking 4Dollars

Faber with a 3 assist night btw … so if history ends up showing Blake made the wrong move with several impact players do they take the jersey down?

If Dubois plays well on LW, that's great news.

Not if he is scoring less than Kempe with that center money contract he got !

 

[AbsentMojo]

Poser Looking 4Dollars

Faber with a 3 assist night btw … so if history ends up showing Blake made the wrong move with several impact players do they take the jersey down?

Sounds good to me.. rip it down like he did the C off his jersey

 

[KingsHockey24]

I don't care about the whole Dubois vs Vilardi debate.

Vilardi wasn't going to sign here anyways. I just wish we had actually acquired a legit 3C and had kept Danault as our #2 guy.

Like imagine having someone like Adam Lowry, Ross Colton, or Trent Frederic. Making it so Todd could healthy scratch Englund and have Clarke in the line-up without losing the "toughness" .

 

[Schmooley]

Vilardi wasn't going to sign here anyways.

Why do you say this?

 

[Nasti]

I think from now on, every time the Kings make a stupid trade we should just automatically say the guy we traded wasn’t signing with the Kings anyway. It’s a good coping mechanism.