Confirmed with Link: Kyle Dubas Not Returning

[nuck]

Adios KD. A year too late for various reasons but the loss to the Stanley Cup finalist Bolts made them look closer than ever and that was with a collapsing Campbell in net. It would have been nice to see what a different coach could have done before dumping the GM breaking up the core but that was Kyle's choice so it is what it is.

I wish him well and good luck to whoever signs on to address the Big 3 conundrum. As I mentioned in another thread I suspect one of them will make it easy to select who is the piece to move. Exciting times in Leafland.

 

[rocketman588]

Have they even said it was about money? I've only read contract conditions, which to me does not mean money, they would have just said that.

Shanahan probably has more power than we know of over the team, and Duabs wanted more.

Came back with a new financial package

 

[al secord]

The next GM inherits the best Leaf team of my lifetime. No pressure.

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

Amirov could've potentially been a better player than Mercer for all we know if not for a major illness

 

[Eternal Leaf]

Dubas got greedy.

Probably thought he could do to Shanahan what the core four did to him.

He was a good GM but whatever happened over the last week was nonsensical. As a GM, you can't become the center of attention, especially in a market like this.

 

[CapspaceKiller]

The next GM inherits the best Leaf team of my lifetime. No pressure.

Hardest thing to do is make a good team great

 

[Kelly]

Great, then you still take Schenider.

See, now you're using hindsight.

Schneider is currently the better hockey player than the kid battling brain cancer, yes.

 

[SprDaVE]

The next GM inherits the best Leaf team of my lifetime. No pressure.

With a mandate to probably blow part of it up. Giddy up.

The new guy will need a lot of red bulls or something.

 

[ToneDog]

After listening to Shanny, anybody left in the DDL ??

 

[tmlms13]

True, but we hear alot of leaf fans say hey, we have buckets of money, and this should fix everything, and here we are.....
Power at the top is where this all broke down, The ShanaPlan has hit a real snag.

I've said it many times in this thread. It is about Power, Dubas didn't want to have to run things by Shanahan anymore. And made that part of his contract demands. Shanny said no.

 

[sxvnert]

Dubas "Here's my counter offer!"

Shanny "Here's ours!"

Savage

 

[al secord]

Would you change your position on this if he ends up somewhere else as a GM THIS year after his presser?

Pittsburgh would be daft not to reach out to him now.

 

[JKG33]

See, now you're using hindsight.

Schneider is currently the better hockey player than the kid battling brain cancer, yes.

No, he was a better pick at the time too. He looked great in the WHL

 

[notbias]

Came back with a new financial package

ya, unless it is performance-based, I am more pro-Shanahan.

Shitty way to go, I understand wanting more money as a position because for the most part, I think he is a good GM, but you have to base it around performance, no other way to go when you have had little success.

Not a fan of this scenario assuming it is purely money related.

 

[DarkKnight]

Yes I can start immediately, references….ummm….

 

[phillipmike]

I wasn't able to watch so if it is purely financial that is bad unless it is performance-based, which then, who cares.

I just saw he came back with a different package/contract. I'd be curious to see the terms regardless.

I'm more pro-Shanahan if it is strictly money, although he is an idiot too.

Yeah Shanny does not look good in this either. But it was clear he asked for more money;

* On Thursday, Kyle informed Shanahan that his agent would reach out - agent presented a new financial package to the team, and before dinner, got an email from Kyle saying he wanted to continue being GM of the Maple Leafs. Admits though, that by then, he had already been thinking about the future of the Maple Leafs with a different GM.

 

[Racer88]

Nice story Shanny. Weird?

Why is it weird

 

[Dekes For Days]

From the sounds of how this went down, MLSE stalled, they decided they wanted Dubas back, Dubas wanted to come back, and then Shanny started making bad decisions on emotion, and now we're in a huge mess at a critical time and have no plan. We're going back to the clown show era.

 

[notbias]

No, he was a better pick at the time too. He looked great in the WHL

Schenider is trash... At least use Mercer as someone who we should have drafted, he is a stud.

 

[Stephen]

Insane that you'd hire someone to manage a team and then do it yourself.

If this is the case, I guess Dubas may be a good or bad GM and we will never know.

No different than Masai and Bobby Webster. You have a guy who does the job and a boss. That seems normal. If Dubas wanted more control that’s fine too. He didn’t get it.

 

[TheGoldenJet]

I’d hate to be a water bottle in the Doobler residence right about now.

 

[On-the-Fly]

What a joke this has become.

 

[CincoHolio]

Shanahan did the right thing. Dubas was playing games and thought he somehow was bigger than the TML. f***ing right you're shown the door.

 

[notbias]

Yeah Shanny does not look good in this either. But it was clear he asked for more money;

I've responded to a few other posts, but if it is strictly money, that's shit and sours me on him a little (unless it is performance-based)

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

In the end, Dubas really overreached with his demands for how little he's been able to accomplish. I don't really blame Shanahan at all for moving on from someone who clearly wasn't fully committed to the role