Confirmed with Link: Kyle Dubas Not Returning

[WTFMAN99]

The Sandin trade was also a bad one.

He said he could have gotten more draft capital but chose to get Gus.

Not bad but if Keefe wasn't gonna dress Gus, despite him looking like 1 of the better D in the Florida series then the draft capital was probably more worth while to get.

 

[Stephen]

To be fair cousins is kind of a 4th liner

Impressive how much Tkachuk has helped raise his and Bennett's game...

Takes a lot to do that while our superstar needs one of the best playmaking right wingers in the game with him at all times

I think Bennett scored a hat trick in the playoffs as a rookie for the Flames. Maybe it was his debut. Too lazy to check. So he’s always been much better in the playoffs than in the regular season. One of the pandemic years when I was watching a lot of out of town games guys like Bennett really popped in terms of playoff play. Don’t remember if it was the bubble or the shortened year. Perry in Dallas too. Dubas and co. really just seemed to have an allergy to these kind of players.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I think Bennett scored a hat trick in the playoffs as a rookie for the Flames. Maybe it was his debut. Too lazy to check. So he’s always been much better in the playoffs than in the regular season. One of the pandemic years when I was watching a lot of out of town games guys like Bennett really popped in terms of playoff play. Don’t remember if it was the bubble or the shortened year. Perry in Dallas too. Dubas and co. really just seemed to have an allergy to these kind of players.

Bennett was such a great add and everyone here just loved to scream about Pts / 60 and GF % etc, reality is they couldn't look up from a spread sheet.

Bennett is pretty average in the regular season but really knows how and when to elevate and Tkachuk and him are an absolute load down low to go up against. The X-factor? Every player knows they will punch you in the face if it gets dirty so you can play them hard but no one is gonna take liberties.

Edit: Treliving traded him but he got blocked by coaching in Calgary.

Gaudreau and Tkachuk at LW and then Monahan/Backlund and then Lindholm at centre...they put him at RW but it wasn't the same. Tkachuk actually transitioned well to his off-wing.

 

[capfit9]

The Sandin trade was also a bad one.

MATT MURRAY

 

[rocketman588]

The Sandin trade was also a bad one.

I'm fine with it tbh he would have gotten Lily'd anyways.

Although I would have rather us shipped holl out of town

 

[Superstar]

He said he could have gotten more draft capital but chose to get Gus.

Not bad but if Keefe wasn't gonna dress Gus, despite him looking like 1 of the better D in the Florida series then the draft capital was probably more worth while to get.

Dubas should have pried Tom Wilson out of Washington, but allergies to toughness didn't help him.

 

[The Masters]

Kyper says kyle aiming for President of Pens

 

[ToneDog]

Kyper says kyle aiming for President of Pens

Rossi said it was his job if he wanted it.

 

[JaegerDice]

I cant believe the Leafs let one of the best GMs in the league go over a press conference.

 

[Squiffy]

I cant believe the Leafs let one of the best GMs in the league go over a press conference.

I think it was more about the glasses.

 

[Peasy]

I cant believe the Leafs let one of the best GMs in the league go over a press conference.

Was more than a press conference lmao.

 

[Mess]

I cant believe the Leafs let one of the best GMs in the league go over a press conference.

Here is a link to that report

Fans had the same reaction to the Lamoriello news & it had nothing to do with who next GM will be​

Once the news broke, the reactions poured in and there was a common theme we saw from the hockey world now in regards to the reaction to the news:.

The Toronto Maple Leafs made a major announcement on Monday morning involving Lou Lamoriello's role with the team going forward.

Brendan Shanahan announced that Lamoriello won't be back as the Leafs' GM next season.

 

[Racer88]

I cant believe the Leafs let one of the best GMs in the league go over a press conference.

I think it was the continuation of playoff failure. Big picture 1 round win in the last 2 decades.
Medium picture in the last 7 years one single round win
Final picture, only 1 series win in the 5 years Dubas has been in control.
The team has gone from a fast playing exiting team to a slow plodding soft team that disappears when the going gets tough.
This is why he should have been fired as soon as the Leafs were eliminated. As to why he really got fired we may never know for sure

 

[PromisedLand]

Kyper says kyle aiming for President of Pens

if fenwawy group gives that position to dubas; they deserve all the flack that is undoubtedly coming their way

 

[57 Years No Cup]

I cant believe the Leafs let one of the best GMs in the league go over a press conference.

We didn't let Lou go over a press conference...

 

[Canadian Finn]

because of a press conference eh.
love hf boards.

 

[Superstar]

if fenwawy group gives that position to dubas; they deserve all the flack that is undoubtedly coming their way

Looks like Dubas trying to take the easy route out, doesn't want to deal with the roster.

 

[andora]

if fenwawy group gives that position to dubas; they deserve all the flack that is undoubtedly coming their way

I think he would do less damage as president

 

[egd27]

There is a time and place for micromanagement. If you don’t trust a GM to do their job, replace them, or be the President/GM. I do agree that certain things, like large contracts should be reviewed. But trades, draft picks… general management of a team, should be run by the general manager.

Yes, media can create controversy. But in this case, the signs of issues were visibly there. This was even predictable and discussed here.

What were these signs though? I'm actually very curious because it seems like Dubas got everything he wanted. His entire staff from the Soo hired, many players from the Soo signed to either the Marlies or Growlers and even some for the Leafs. Made many trades and made a lot this year alone at the deadline to completely change the bottom 6. Read 1 thing about a Knies trade being blocked but then it came out that Dubas and Shanahan didn't want to do that trade and don't know how that report got out. Idk what else a President could do to prove that a GM has all the power to be a GM if he let all of this happen.

Do you have evidence of this "micromangement" besides rumors and innuendo?

I must have missed these signs

Could you provide some of the factual examples of micromanagement?

So far the examples I have read about are the Tage Thompson one, and the Knies / MAF / Hagel one, both of which have been debunked.

Anything @Fogelhund ?

 

[rumman]

Looks like Dubas trying to take the easy route out, doesn't want to deal with the roster.

who thinks Dubas' ego would allow him to give his GM total autonomy like he wanted in Toronto?
Asking for a friend............

 

[Malachi Crunch]

Kyper says kyle aiming for President of Pens

Happy to hear they brought up, and mocked, those absolutely ridiculous "mourning" for Dubas's loss comments made by some of the staff.

 

[The Masters]

Happy to hear they brought up, and mocked, those absolutely ridiculous "mourning" for Dubas's loss comments made by some of the staff.

I enjoyed that too lol. shape up or ship out

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

 

[AllHeartNoSkill]

I enjoyed that too lol. shape up or ship out

overdrive just had a laugh at that article too. It was cartoonishly over the top. It was so insincere.

 

[Future]

Sounds like cope. This isn’t MLSE’s first rodeo. They have a NBA and MLS championship in the last 7 years. You’re expecting me to believe they’ve no clue how to run an operation or handle big moves?

The Cult of Kyle needs to give it up.