Confirmed with Link: Kyle Dubas Not Returning

[francis246]

Don't hold your breath on that. If he goes to Pittsburgh they will flounder hard

Or he turns that team around and helps sid, geno and Letang win another cup

 

[General Fanager]

I am kind of surprised. I didnt think Shanny had a bullet left. I thought if Dubas was out then so was Shanny and Keefe

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Kevin Bieksa for GM

 

[93gilmour93]

I’m nervous as to what happens next

 

[Ziggdiezan]

In the end, despite some good moves, some horrible ones, some shrewd thinking, some good and bad culture wise, he really accomplished nothing, given what he walked into. Nobody thought we’d be sitting here with so many failures after he was hired.

His biggest fault is arguably his loyalty and perhaps accerlating things with the JT signing that likely inflated the big 3's contract.

 

[ShaneFalco]

His biggest fault is arguably his loyalty and perhaps accerlating things with the JT signing that likely inflated the big 3's contract.

And he wasn't going to fire Keefe

 

[rumman]

Rut Roh.

who cares what 34 thinks, management have regained control of the asylum..............

 

[binop7]

Or he turns that team around and helps sid, geno and Letang win another cup

0 shot the way the team is currently setup. And he isn't walking into the same situation as he did with Toronto. Good luck is all I'll say.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

His biggest fault is arguably his loyalty and perhaps accerlating things with the JT signing that likely inflated the big 3's contract.

perhaps ?

 

[LeafsandSharksfan]

A lot more difficult things in life and profession are figured out in a month

Maybe but I don’t think it generally leads to the best outcomes.

 

[ranold26]

Announced on a Friday afternoon with a long weekend...
This was expected/planned.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

You gotta admit that ROR was a great add though.

I would rather have not added him because the leafs to that point had shown nothing to say they were ready to make a deep playoff push. All they had was failure against much worse teams and I didn't think adding 1 guy would change that.

 

[hockeywiz542]

Dubas will not return as general manager of the Maple Leafs - TSN.ca

Maple Leafs president Brendan Shanahan announced Friday that the Maple Leafs have decided to part ways with Kyle Dubas ahead of his contract expiring on June 30. Leafs Lunch on TSN 1050 reacts to the breaking news.

 

[Fogelhund]

1. Dubas is the best GM for the Leafs since Quinn bc his team made it to the 2nd round
2. Whoever is the new GM will need to have a vision of the team quickly
3. Who cares if AM won’t resign, then trade him. Even with those guys the team barely made it past the 1st round ONCE. Cup is the most important thing not players, managers or coaches.

Agreed, with the edit.

 

[mikeyz]

f***ing hell. We're f***ed. I dont give a shit what anyone says, he was one of the best GM's in the league, he will do amazing work with another team and we will be stuck in the mud.

One of the best GM’s in the league?

He won 1 playoff round in 5 years after inheriting a 105 point team off the jump. And let’s not forget that the said round that they won, they got outplayed in 5 of the 6 games.

My god, the Dubas fanboyism on here is bordering on cringeworthy.

 

[yubbers]

Lou methodically builds from the net out, that’s why it took him 3 years to get this lineup of Norris candidates together:

Rielly-Hainsey
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Marincin-Polak

Just eat your crow already. Lou had far more playoff success on the Island sans JT. MLSE made an unecessary gamble on a rookie G and went bust. This was all so predictable.

Rielly had a career year with Hainsey and Dubas decided he needed to stop that and got Morgan Codi Cece. LOL

 

[Ziggdiezan]

And he wasn't going to fire Keefe

Yup, definitely part of the loyalty issue.

 

[DarkKnight]

Are the core playoff losers or not? If they are, he was handcuffed with that roster...

Not sure how people can have it both ways.

I think the worst move he made was not predicting the pandemic, we had to be affected worse than any other team by it, I don't think anyone had that many big signings in that time frame, it sucks.

Ultimately though, fine with him leaving as long as we don't go too far the other way in hiring.

Interesting/nervous times.

He created an atmosphere here that was pretty cozy, he kept a coach he should have canned out of loyalty and he treated the players like royalty. Maybe the team took on his “nice guy” persona. Anyways, let’s hope we don’t diverge too much now.

 

[JSn0w93]

I also think we should have parted ways with Shanahan as well. What has he done in the past 9 years to show he deserves more time?

 

[ShaneFalco]

I’m nervous as to what happens next

I'm excited actually. How many times have the players themselves said they're too easy to play against?
And you'd think with the loyalty he showed to the core, they'd go through a wall for him. Rielly was really the only one

 

[Tak7]

1. Dubas is the best GM for the Leafs since Quinn bc his team made it to the 2nd round
2. Whoever is the new GM will need to have a vision of the team quickly
3. Who cares if AM won’t resign, then trade him. Even with those guys the team barely made it past the 1st round ONCE. Cup is the most important thing not players.

Matthew's NMC kicks in July 1st - you can't move him.

And you can't give him - you need value in return.

So, basically, they're f***ed.

 

[sxvnert]

If Dubas ends up in Ottawa then his crocodile tears were completely full of shit.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

perhaps ?

Gotta be glass half full sometimes in all this doom and gloom of leaf Fandom lol

 

[Gabriel426]

Who will be the GM?

 

[zoA]

Mixed emotions.

I did not like the Dubas hire, and wanted an established GM.

Hated his obsession with small skill, moving out Marchment and bringing in Malgin and Petan.

Never should’ve hired Keefe to begin with, and should have been jettisoned after losing to Montreal.

Completely botched the Seattle expansion draft and Kadri trade, as well as the Foligno and Murray trades.

He did show some astute drafting and under the radar trades such as Timmins and Bunting.

This TDL was excellent, with the exception of trading Sandin and not adding a LW that left us reliant on Kerfoot, who should have been traded.

I see he has evolved as a GM and is putting it together. I was open to him him coming back provided Keefe was gone and he hammered out deals with Matthews, Marner, and Nylander that were more team friendly for us. I think he had earned that respect from them all for the lumps he took after their last deals.

I hate that he did his training here, to realize his full potential elsewhere, at our expense.

Having said that, work-life balance comes first, always. No one can know what he and his family were feeling and going through. Nothing is worth your mental health, and your family’s happiness. If there was trouble with that balance, then stepping away is absolutely what he needs to do and everyone needs to STFU about it.

So much we don’t and probably won’t know. He’s done some things I liked, some things I didn’t like, and honestly some things I’ve hated, but no one can say he didn’t try and didn’t care.

I wish him and his family well, and if this is what needed to happen for him to have that, then so be it. We will move forward.

This is exactly how I feel. From what Dubas said during his presser, in conjunction with his moves at the deadline, it really felt like he was on the cusp of going from a good GM to a great one.

The people calling him a wimp have obviously not experienced enough in life to understand what’s truly important. When you reach a certain level of success (subjective OR objective), it opens the window to understand what actually matters.

I was alright with Dubas staying, but I wanted Shanny and Keefe gone. It will be interesting to see how things unfold, but I wish people would stop ignoring how bad this team was well before the current setup was established.