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If he wants out and needs to be comfy, or have his special coddling GM, so be it
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If he wants out and needs to be comfy, or have his special coddling GM, so be it
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Penguins GM search: Eric Tulsky impresses in interviews as Kyle Dubas reports swirl
However, it’s a candidate without ties to the Penguins that seems to have aced his interviews. Eric Tulsky, the Hurricanes assistant GM, impressed FSG brass — specifically at an in-person meeting with Henry and chairman Tom Werner, said a Penguins team source granted anonymity by The Athletic because they are not permitted to speak publicly about the process.
Tulsky is one of the Hurricanes’ two assistant GMs. He has played a pivotal role — including direct involvement on all hockey operations decisions, analytics, scouting and contract negotiations — under Carolina GM Don Waddell. The Hurricanes are in the Eastern Conference final and have qualified for the past five postseasons, winning at least one series each time.
While Tulsky has emerged as one of the top candidates, former Maple Leafs GM Kyle Dubas’ recent availability might play into the Penguins’ final decision. Sportsnet and TSN writers have reported the Penguins received permission to speak with Dubas from the Maple Leafs, who parted ways with him last Friday.
The latest on Tulsky, Dubas and Penguins GM search
The Penguins’ long, wide-ranging search for new hockey leadership has entered its sixth week but is seemingly nearing a conclusion.
theathletic.com
With an Update:
Report: Eric Tulsky Out of Running for Penguins GM
A fan favorite has been axed from the Pittsburgh Penguins front office race.The Pittsburgh Penguins continue to trim their list of candidates as their search for a new general manager nears its conclusion. After a couple rounds of interviews, the Penguins have eliminated Carolina Hurricanes’ assistant general manager Eric Tulsky from the running. According to Pierre LeBrun on TSN, Tulsky is no longer in the running after a pair of interviews.
LeBrun noted that both Tulsky and Dan MacKinnon of the New Jersey Devils are off of the Penguins’ list. Losing out on Tulsky is a big hit to take considering he has been a fan favorite choice since the beginning of the search in Pittsburgh. Tulsky played a huge role in building a Carolina Hurricanes team that regularly dominates in the Eastern Conference.
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He's already talked to Pit, so Carolina being out isn't really an obstacle.
If it’s either Treliving or Tulsky, won’t both guys be prohibited from working on this year’s draft for the Leafs? I wonder if this would include the ability to use draft picks in trades before July 1st. Not ideal.
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I thought Tulsky has been an AGM or NHL exec for a very long time in Carolina.
If that is the case, I don’t think Tulsky should be classified as Zero hockey Experience.
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Wonder why he’s out, have the Leafs reached out? Seems fishy given your first link about the great interview. Would love to snag him. TO is a way better option than Pitt.Penguins GM search: Eric Tulsky impresses in interviews as Kyle Dubas reports swirl
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However, it’s a candidate without ties to the Penguins that seems to have aced his interviews. Eric Tulsky, the Hurricanes assistant GM, impressed FSG brass — specifically at an in-person meeting with Henry and chairman Tom Werner, said a Penguins team source granted anonymity by The Athletic because they are not permitted to speak publicly about the process.
Tulsky is one of the Hurricanes’ two assistant GMs. He has played a pivotal role — including direct involvement on all hockey operations decisions, analytics, scouting and contract negotiations — under Carolina GM Don Waddell. The Hurricanes are in the Eastern Conference final and have qualified for the past five postseasons, winning at least one series each time.
While Tulsky has emerged as one of the top candidates, former Maple Leafs GM Kyle Dubas’ recent availability might play into the Penguins’ final decision. Sportsnet and TSN writers have reported the Penguins received permission to speak with Dubas from the Maple Leafs, who parted ways with him last Friday.
The latest on Tulsky, Dubas and Penguins GM search
The Penguins’ long, wide-ranging search for new hockey leadership has entered its sixth week but is seemingly nearing a conclusion.
With an Update:
Report: Eric Tulsky Out of Running for Penguins GM
A fan favorite has been axed from the Pittsburgh Penguins front office race.
The Pittsburgh Penguins continue to trim their list of candidates as their search for a new general manager nears its conclusion. After a couple rounds of interviews, the Penguins have eliminated Carolina Hurricanes’ assistant general manager Eric Tulsky from the running. According to Pierre LeBrun on TSN, Tulsky is no longer in the running after a pair of interviews.
LeBrun noted that both Tulsky and Dan MacKinnon of the New Jersey Devils are off of the Penguins’ list. Losing out on Tulsky is a big hit to take considering he has been a fan favorite choice since the beginning of the search in Pittsburgh. Tulsky played a huge role in building a Carolina Hurricanes team that regularly dominates in the Eastern Conference.
Program is a great way to describe it.
Carolina is a great example, they're reliable and consistently a threat because they were built with care over time. Scoring is where they are fragile. When one of Pax, Svetch, Tera are out its a problem. When all three are out you might have to wait until next year. Unless you're at the end of your life cycle, you have to plan for a window because shit happens.
Tampa is another good example, but their weakness going into the playoffs was that they needed Hedman, Cernak, Serg to remain healthy. It was a careful risk/reward assessment at the end of their window - they had a real chance at the cup, so they rolled the dice while the opportunity was still available. We were outclassed but Heddy went down, we bumped Cernak in the head, and fumbled our way into the second round. It's no coincidence that Vasi 'broke down' this year.
I assume their are strained conditions as a result of the major disruption, but its mostly about the contract situations and time crunch. If you really want to accelerate a new program, the next five weeks are your opportunity to do it.
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Kyle Dubas quotes:
“It’s Toronto or nowhere.”
“I couldn’t put my family through that.”
“You won’t see me popping up anywhere else.”
One week later:
“It’s Toronto or nowhere.”
“I couldn’t put my family through that.”
“You won’t see me popping up anywhere else.”
One week later:
This is the exact opposite of what CJ said . I trust CJ over Frank Seravalli.
Yeah agree again on most.. tampa i believe is set up for a couple more years. I dont care how he did but Jeannot will replace killorn.. they need to decide on colton but i give them the benefit of the doubt in unearthing another center for 3 hole. Goncalves i think surprises
But i dont think it is 5 weeks that decides a new program - i believe that a true shift in the way we play should occur but that isnt dependant on personnel - that is the point. So i dont put a 5 week timeline on this.. but instead this offseason.
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- Who are you attributing this quote to, and do you know if they spoke to either Shanahan or any of the core players on this topic?
- What else would you expect him to say to them "Hey Auston, keep this to yourself but we're gonna trade Mitch" ? Of course he was going to say reassuring things given the events that had just occurred
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If you had a core age of
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which would be more appealing for a GM?
Eric Tulsky is a better more successful experience version of Kyle Dubas. Nice upgrade for the Leafs as Canes regularly win playoff rounds annually.
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Compare the Canes playoff success years to the Dubas failure years !!!
The precise quote was "You won’t see me next week pop up elsewhere. I can’t put (my family) through that after this year."
Exactly one week later, his head pops up in Pittsburgh talking to Sydney Crosby (at least according to this source, which was said to be reputable on TSN radio).
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Carolina Hurricanes: The meteoric rise of Eric Tulsky
The Carolina Hurricanes new assistant General Manager has had quite the rise, from a Havard graduation to the front office of a NHL team
cardiaccane.com
Its Fansided so take with a grain of salt
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That's why he tried to stay in Toronto first, but only if the power (the autonomy of decision making) matches what he thinks he can get in Pittsburgh. He wasn't willing to stay in Toronto without being given more power.
The picture is becoming more obvious now that Pittsburgh put the GM search on hold for him, and that he actually pops up in Pittsburgh talking to Sidney yesterday.
ShaneFalco
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Would be to having to actually start with a new team. Seems that the many feel the Leafs must have someone actually behind the desk ASAP
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No wonder our stars were mercanaries - their boss was
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MLSE as reported was willing to extend KD on a shorter 3-4 year team at $4 mil under the current chain of command and limited power authority.
Dubas counter offer was more autonomy and BOD direct access with a 5-6 year deal at $6 to $7 mil per for all his increased power.
Shanny said "No and Goodbye" ..
If Fenway Sports wants to pay him $6-7 mil good for him, but his role and responsibility despite MLSE deep pockets was never going to happen here, particularly because he didn't have playoff success leverage to use in negotiations to prove his value to the organization.
In the end Dubas downfall was much like the Leafs related to contracts and perceived value.. The players all got big contracts first, and then told to earn them with playoff success for the organization, and MLSE got the opposite.. So they were not going to fall for that pitfall of paying Duas the highest GM salary in the NHL first based on having among the least playoff success in hopes he also repays that in the future on promises, as opposed to earns it on performance.
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On 32 Thoughts, Freidman said Dubas has been offered the job with Pittsburgh and he is being given some time to decide.
As for Tulsky, it isn’t happening and it’s not an upgrade over Dubas. He isn’t what this organization needs right now. This is Shanahan’s team and vision. He wants his yes man.
As for Tulsky, it isn’t happening and it’s not an upgrade over Dubas. He isn’t what this organization needs right now. This is Shanahan’s team and vision. He wants his yes man.
Tampa will remain a threat no doubt.
The next five weeks, and this offseason, won't determine the fate of the team, but you won't find another opportunity of this magnitude to accelerate change.
Think of our current asset capital (players, prospects, picks) like a war chest that will be used to invest in a new program. The majority of it dissappears after July 1st.
It's not all dependant on player personnel, but that's a critical component and the most difficult to acquire.
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I think Friedman has also said it won't have much of an effect. Futa, a guy who has actually been in management and survived a purge, also said its unlikely. Another, though he gets alot of flak, but he's a former player and usually gives the Leafs grief - Kypreos literally laughed at the idea.
I don't have much trust in many of the talking head but Seravalli has to be one of the worst.
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