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Confirmed with Link: Kyle Dubas Not Returning
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I’m thinking Dubas is Renley and Shanny is Stannis, trying to get the throne over the rightful heir. The ghost of Stannis that kills Renley is the analytics he tried to use to negotiate his contract extension with Shanny. Babcock is Davos.
Burke was Robert Baratheon. Nonis is Ned Stark. Lou is Tywin. Fletcher is Maester Pycelle. Marner is Joffrey. Ballard is the Mad King.
Can't wait to see who disappears from this board, to see who Dubas and Spezza were.
seventieslord
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Jesus Christ, this is just.... Too much. This isIt seems as though former Toronto Maple Leafs GM Kyle Dubas hired and acquired a lot of previous Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds players and other staff for the Leafs and Marlies during his tenure.
Toronto Maple Leafs: Kyle Dubas Ongoing Connections to the Greyhounds
The Soo Greyhounds have a deep connection with the Toronto Maple Leafs - thanks to Kyle Dubas - and Jared McCann is just another example.editorinleaf.com
Toronto Maple Leafs: Kyle Dubas Ongoing Connections to the Greyhounds
by Michael Alexander
1 year ago
Toronto Maple Leafs and the Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds
Dubas was born and raised in the Soo, and his and his families connections to the Soo Greyhounds run deep. His father interned with the team and his grandfather coached the team from 1960 to 1967. As for Kyle himself, he spent his youth in various roles with the team culminating as the team’s general manager from 2011 to 2014.
In one of the first moves made by Dubas as G.M. of the Marlies was hiring Sheldon Keefe to head coach the affiliate as former Head Coach of the Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds from 2012 to 2015.
In 2019 as G.M. of the Leafs, Dubas promoted Keefe to coach the big club.
Beyond major titles, there’s a list of other Leafs and Marlies staff who have also plied their trade in the Soo:
• Chris Roque – Amateur Scout (Leafs)
• Victor Carneiro – Amateur Scout (Leafs)
• Richard Rotenberg – Director of High Performance (Leafs)
• Wes Clark – Assistant Director of Player Personnel (Leafs)
• A.J. MacLean – Assistant Coach (Marlies)
• Coach Jon Elkin - Goaltending (Marlies)
In Kyle’s first draft as G.M. of the Toronto Maple Leafs in 2018, Rasmus Sandin (#29) was Dubas’ first pick. Four slots later, Mac Hollowell was selected.
Since then, no Soo Greyhound has been drafted by Dubas, but that hasn’t stopped him from loading up on Soo Greyhounds alumni through other means. In his first major trade with the Leafs in 2019, Dubas picked up Jake Muzzin.
Then in 2020, he grabbed Jack Campbell.
For the 2020-21 season, Wayne Simmonds and Joe Thornton both came aboard.
So, when Dubas made his first splash of the 2021 off-season, it should be no surprise that he scored Jared McCann. (info from Capfriendly.com)
Other Soo Greyhounds Alumni Playing in the NHL
It’s hard to imagine Dubas ever deviating, so here is a list of Soo Greyhounds alumni playing in the NHL that could be in the Leafs fixture sometime in the near future:
• Matt Murray (Senators)
• Tony DeAngelo (Rangers)
• Nick Cousins (Predators)
• Jeff Carter (Penguins)
• Darnell Nurse (Oilers)
• Conor Timmins (Avalanche)
• Robin Lehner (Golden Knights)
• Colin Miller (Sabres)
• Barrett Hayton (Coyotes)
• Nick Ritchie (Bruins)
• Michael Bunting (Coyotes)
If the Leafs are going to wheel and deal with any of these teams, you can be sure Dubas is going to consider picking up one of his own.
far beyond coincidence and even far beyond a preference.
SmoggyTwinkles
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Woah Crosby and Malkin are 38???????????????? (they might be, I didn't look it up)
SmoggyTwinkles
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But he is so young, surely he is not attached to his past like the old guard?
This guy showed his cards and they were duds, he's crapped out and if he lands another job maybe he'll do better, but he did not handle his exit very well. The guy is paid millions of dollars per year he has to be more professional than what he's shown.
I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole if I was another team.
Dude was given a chance that few get and on his way out shit on the folks that gave him that chance.
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Dubas releases statement following Maple Leafs departure
Disregarding the general crap he had to say at the beginning, the end is interesting.
I'm expecting at least an attempt to take some of the staff/players with him. Make me GM in Pittsburgh and I'll bring in Matthews? PIT would get AM for cap only. AM would get his 15. Kyle Gming again. Pit with star in their prime.
Disregarding the general crap he had to say at the beginning, the end is interesting.
I'm expecting at least an attempt to take some of the staff/players with him. Make me GM in Pittsburgh and I'll bring in Matthews? PIT would get AM for cap only. AM would get his 15. Kyle Gming again. Pit with star in their prime.
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Dubas cried crocodile tears in his press conference. I love the leafs. If I’m not GM of the leafs I won’t be a GM in the league next year.
One week later- dubas meets with penguins for GM job.
The guy has no credibility and no hockey sense how to build a team.
I can see him now giving Crosby Malkin and letang 8 year 96 million dollar contracts each with nmc.
He can and he will
One week later- dubas meets with penguins for GM job.
The guy has no credibility and no hockey sense how to build a team.
I can see him now giving Crosby Malkin and letang 8 year 96 million dollar contracts each with nmc.
He can and he will
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The Penguins soght him out. They were close to hiring someone when Dubas potentially became available
They asked and were granted permission to speak to him. Did he agree to the interview? He didn't cry in the press conference. By Wednesday, he had discussed things with his family and decided to stay as a GM . Then he got word that the team was not going to renew the contract. With unemployment looming, he may have changed his mind. Shanny changed his mind about offering the contract.
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A good reason why people probably shouldn't work themselves up into a tizzy until more information comes out.
This places the desire for more "autonomy" into a whole other light. Wasn't about getting to do whatever he wanted - rather didn't want to rely on Shanny as the only pathway to addressing the ownership board. One can still argue he didn't need it, but it also comes across as a much more reasonable request....
It seems as though former Toronto Maple Leafs GM Kyle Dubas hired and acquired a lot of previous Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds players and other staff for the Leafs and Marlies during his tenure.
Toronto Maple Leafs: Kyle Dubas Ongoing Connections to the Greyhounds
The Soo Greyhounds have a deep connection with the Toronto Maple Leafs - thanks to Kyle Dubas - and Jared McCann is just another example.
Toronto Maple Leafs: Kyle Dubas Ongoing Connections to the Greyhounds
by Michael Alexander
1 year ago
Toronto Maple Leafs and the Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds
Dubas was born and raised in the Soo, and his and his families connections to the Soo Greyhounds run deep. His father interned with the team and his grandfather coached the team from 1960 to 1967. As for Kyle himself, he spent his youth in various roles with the team culminating as the team’s general manager from 2011 to 2014.
In one of the first moves made by Dubas as G.M. of the Marlies was hiring Sheldon Keefe to head coach the affiliate as former Head Coach of the Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds from 2012 to 2015.
In 2019 as G.M. of the Leafs, Dubas promoted Keefe to coach the big club.
Beyond major titles, there’s a list of other Leafs and Marlies staff who have also plied their trade in the Soo:
• Chris Roque – Amateur Scout (Leafs)
• Victor Carneiro – Amateur Scout (Leafs)
• Richard Rotenberg – Director of High Performance (Leafs)
• Wes Clark – Assistant Director of Player Personnel (Leafs)
• A.J. MacLean – Assistant Coach (Marlies)
• Coach Jon Elkin - Goaltending (Marlies)
In Kyle’s first draft as G.M. of the Toronto Maple Leafs in 2018, Rasmus Sandin (#29) was Dubas’ first pick. Four slots later, Mac Hollowell was selected.
Since then, no Soo Greyhound has been drafted by Dubas, but that hasn’t stopped him from loading up on Soo Greyhounds alumni through other means. In his first major trade with the Leafs in 2019, Dubas picked up Jake Muzzin.
Then in 2020, he grabbed Jack Campbell.
For the 2020-21 season, Wayne Simmonds and Joe Thornton both came aboard.
So, when Dubas made his first splash of the 2021 off-season, it should be no surprise that he scored Jared McCann. (info from Capfriendly.com)
Other Soo Greyhounds Alumni Playing in the NHL
It’s hard to imagine Dubas ever deviating, so here is a list of Soo Greyhounds alumni playing in the NHL that could be in the Leafs fixture sometime in the near future:
• Matt Murray (Senators)
• Tony DeAngelo (Rangers)
• Nick Cousins (Predators)
• Jeff Carter (Penguins)
• Darnell Nurse (Oilers)
• Conor Timmins (Avalanche)
• Robin Lehner (Golden Knights)
• Colin Miller (Sabres)
• Barrett Hayton (Coyotes)
• Nick Ritchie (Bruins)
• Michael Bunting (Coyotes)
If the Leafs are going to wheel and deal with any of these teams, you can be sure Dubas is going to consider picking up one of his own.
The flip side of surrounding oneself with an unproportionately large number of former associates is to build up one's power in an empire.
The current "narrative" has given me the feeling that, rather than a family man, Dubas may be one of those who has a persistent lust for more power.
This goes back to when he forced Shanahan's hand to get the GM job before he was ready, not willing to wait longer and learn more from a hall-of-fame GM (and he was taken to school by Nylander's agent). He just wasn't satisfied with the wait and wanted the power sooner.
What he wanted from Shanahan last week was simply a repeat of what he did to Lou, forcing the hand to get his way to accumulate more autonomy (i.e. power) in decision-making.
This is how someone much younger than their peers could climb the ladder faster than others. For anyone who have worked in a big corporation, it is almost never about how "smart" someone is, but how "smart" someone looks to others along with how aggressive someone is, and the aggression includes the schemes to make redundant your superior.
Hence the talk about other teams wanting him as president. I never thought that it is remotely possible for someone this young to be a president, esp one with repeated playoffs failure. Remember, he took over a team that already has regular season success. So essentially he didn't do much whereas the media talk of him as highly-sought after smart executive as if he has just won the stanley cup.
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I'll keep repeating what keeps getting glossed over: Dubas getting direct access to the Board at MLSE would have made Shanahan redundant. Shanahan had no choice.
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How close is Kyle Dubas to becoming the Penguins' general manager?
How about close enough to have met with the resident franchise icon?A source with knowledge of the situation told DK Pittsburgh Sports that Dubas, an apparent finalist for the GM vacancy, was at the UPMC Lemieux Sports Complex for a session that extended late into Tuesday night. Sidney Crosby also was there and was believed to be among those who met with Dubas. Members of the Penguins' public relations staff also were on hand.
www.dkpittsburghsports.com
How about close enough to have met with the resident franchise icon?A source with knowledge of the situation told DK Pittsburgh Sports that Dubas, an apparent finalist for the GM vacancy, was at the UPMC Lemieux Sports Complex for a session that extended late into Tuesday night. Sidney Crosby also was there and was believed to be among those who met with Dubas. Members of the Penguins' public relations staff also were on hand.
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Even as a "Dubas supporter", I have to say this is not a good look for him. Clearly does seem like a power play that failed. Time to close the book on the Dubas era. Anxious to see who comes on board next, and getting on with the changes the team needs to make to secure the future.
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This is very true actually, most people were lauding this trade at the time. It’s funny how people think we don’t have memories. I still don’t want him though.
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Also speaks to a certain autonomy doesn’t it, guy literally stuffed every MLSE orfice with Soo connections. Oh, his hands were tied, pleaaazzzzeee.
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He doesn't?Yeh right, and Mitchy Marner doesn't care what the media guys say.
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All these Pittsburg rumours, won’t someone think about the family?
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He should recovered quickly from needing some time away
I thought you gave up your leafs fandom when Dubas got let go?
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Isn’t that something? He had tears in his eyes when he sat up there a little over a week ago using them as negotiating leverage.
Families are off limits, but he threw his into the ring.
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