Confirmed with Link: Kyle Dubas Not Returning

[ShaneFalco]

It was time to move on
Wish him well

 

[Leaf Rocket]

How glad/mad would you be if your Leafs hire....our ex-own...Marc Bergevin? What about Trevor Timmins?

and hell no.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

* Wonders what this means for Matthews' extension. Speculates that he won't be signing before July 1st anymore, until he knows who the new GM is and what the plan is moving forward.

Rut Roh.

 

[BeLeafing]

The wording very much makes this seem as if the Leafs parted with Dubas, not the other way around as his press conference would've led us to believe. I wonder if after that presser his commitment to the job was slightly questioned - which I think is fair.

I'm worried to say the least though. I believe in Kyle as a GM and believe in his ability to change and adapt. I would've trusted him with a big 4 trade.

I also wonder how this affects Matthews negotiations if it isn't an internal hire (Pridham) that takes over. Him and Kyle appeared to be close.

 

[Leafsfan74]

results? or not this time. Right now it is a big failure.

Also, aren't we making someone trade one of our young players, pretty much the same situation...

Not a fan of him as our GM.

He made some great trades. His big ticket contracts hurt him. He should not have been negotiating them as a fresh new GM. There was too much pressure on him too, I was one of the few on here who would ave traded Willie for a stud D Man. Their early D cost them a couple of series.

 

[TheTotalPackage]

Lest we forget that in a world without COVID his contracts that he signed the Core Four to would’ve aged far better than they did.

While I agree, the fact he gave our three best players 5/6-year deals while practically every other star of their calibre signed for 8 was a huge error on his part.

 

[thewave]

The team is at a very dangerous point in my opinion. They either get it right here and the team takes the next step by moving one of the "core 4". Or it goes wrong and its rebuild time again in 3 to 4 years.

This is why you don't sign 5 year deals with NMCs for star players when you don't have to. This is his initial decisions coming back to haunt us and now he is taking off and leaving the mess. I said basically exactly this same thing would happen when we hired him.

 

[ToneDog]

Dubas did not quit, he was let go. Whoever finally saw through the charade, thank you !!!

 

[geo25]

Off to cheer for whatever team he is now the GM of, like many of you predicted, nice knowing you all.

This is sarcasm

Honestly, it sucks.

I am really hoping we don't go too far the other way and bring in someone who is past their prime (Lou/Holland type) who butchers this team, and I am praying we don't bring in Treliving to trade one of the core players.

I think Dubas is a great GM and it sucks he is leaving, I trusted him to trade one of the core pieces, and can't think of too many GMs I trust that are available.

He most definitely is NOT a great gm...

 

[JSn0w93]

Treliving is a terrible hire in my opinion.

Tulsky or Pridham I'd be fine with.

I just am nervous the Leafs will go in the opposite direct of Dubas and get a terrible GM cause they won a cup in the early 2000's.

I am a Leafs fan regardless, I just thought Dubas was out best option, so this sucks because I think the team will start trending in the opposite direction.

I think Dubas was by far our best option as well.

 

[ShaneFalco]

well you might as well trade everyone... Matthews wont be happy lol

If he needs to have his special GM then maybe he should look elsewhere

 

[sxvnert]

Keefe is destroying a wheel right now.

Or the new GM won't use his firing coach card this early. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Keefe is now back next season. Leafs can then evaluate him with a new roster and without Dubas chirping in his ear 24/7.

 

[AvroArrow]

Marner probably has smoke coming out of his ears incredulous that team somehow didn’t clear this move through him.

He may be on his way out as well. I don't think Kyle would have moved Marner, a new GM will probably explore that option. I wasn't for getting rid of Dubas nor was I against it, I wanted change so i'm pretty happy there's something.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Don't hold your breath on that. If he goes to Pittsburgh they will flounder hard

As opposed to their current bright future with up and coming studs like..

 

[Leaf Rocket]

Whole program is being dismantled.

this was gonna happen regardless They were not doing well anyone who watched the marlies would tell you.

 

[binop7]

Sure... 7th in league in GAA... terrible. LOL

Looked great in the 2nd round didn't it.

 

[rumman]

If he takes any job this summer, he is a scumbag.

with fake crocodile tears............

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Not back as GM but any chances he stays in the organization ?

 

[ShaneFalco]

Big deal. This team needs a shakeup from the top down. The core 4 were very comfortable here with Dubas, too comfortable. Maybe bring in someone new with a fresh perspective. This is great.

Someone who isn't emotionally attached to Keefe and the core

 

[Mr Knies Guy]

I am sure Keefe is next.

I mean he’s the only one I really want gone badly (was ok with Dubas coming back but was worried he wouldn’t trade core players) but seriously, would they not already announce it along with this announcement?

 

[justashadowof]

I didn't say there was....but AA has gone on to win a World Series and is one of the top executives in the entire sport.

And what's to say he would've done that here. He literally inherited that entire Atlanta infield plus Ocuna Jr.. and most of their starting staff.

 

[keonsbitterness]

That's all I care about, we have a window and hopefully we get a holy grail.

"You're banging two coconuts together!"

 

[DarkKnight]

this is such minimum wage thinking.

You’re such a low rent contributor so…

 

[GoonieFace]

I didn't say there was....but AA has gone on to win a World Series and is one of the top executives in the entire sport.

Well AA walked into a pretty nice situation, but Dubas is no AA

 

[ShaneFalco]

Insanely frustrating this is how it unfolded.

Running a whole new GM search so close to a potentially pivotal offseason is probably the worst case scenario

The board should have made a firmer decision way earlier on this one way or the other. Potentially last offseason.

Indeed