Nah, Dubas split on 10s and ended up getting 3 and 4 while the dealer got 21 after hitting on 15, lol.
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Dubas says "hold my beer"
ToneDog
56 years and counting. #FireTheShanaClan!
Kyle winning his SC. Two weeks later he gets punted.
CabanaBoy5
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Fact of the matter, Shanahan banked on a young and up and coming GM who impressed him with the promise of analytics and a different approach in building teams. He insulated him with Lou in the early years, watching and learning. I thought it was the right move despite his relative inexperience at the NHL level. Dubas did learn on the job, and did an admirable job this season in getting the team the best possible pieces to succeed. Dubas at the TDL when the offer was made and negotiations were going on probably discussed that changes had to be made, to the coach or one of the core 4.
What Shanahan didn't expect was that lame attempt at garnering sympathy by Dubas at his presser. Based on what he saw was someone whose heart may not have been on continuing in the position. I know I got that message. Move to Friday, and we learn it was all a powerplay, either for money or more autonomy. How is Shanahan to blame for being blindsided by someone he hired, respected, and trusted? From what we know, Shanahan hires his people and then lets the GM manage the club. I didn't see alot of interference from the President in 5 years. This was Dubas' team.
That's why people are pissed off at Dubas and giving Shanahan a relative pass at this time.
PromisedLand
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I am still so giddy that we are finally free of the incompetence that was dubas. I had to update my Avatar!
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The Shanahan Presser | 32 Thoughts
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May 20, 2023 32 Thoughts
It was a late night and the Leafs make a major move! Jeff and Elliotte discuss Brendan Shanahan's press conference and recap the 4OT thriller. That and more on this full episode of 32 Thoughts!
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00:01 - Jeff and Elliotte discuss Brendan Shanahan's press conference as the Toronto Maple Leafs will not be bringing back Kyle Dubas as their GM
25:00 - They also recap the 4OT thriller between Florida-Carolina
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I listened to their pod today and those two guys were embarrassing themselves again.
Racer88
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Tavares at 11 when he was the last thing the team needed was the real killerYes that definitely dragged him down. I mean who would give Marner almost 11M
PromisedLand
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I am fully certain that Dubas and CJ had prior discussion that CJ ask him that question and dubas will do a mini-show for the media then strong arm MLSE into bend to dubas' will
I am just so freakin' GLAD that Dubas got ShanaCanned!
Quick Shifts: Why Treliving is in the mix to be Maple Leafs’ next GM
Stan Bowman and Brad Treliving should be in mix for Leafs GM job, Gerard Gallant wants back in, Coyotes must move and nine more NHL goodies in this edition of Luke Fox's Quick Shifts.
• We’re told the idea that Dubas would take over in Pittsburgh was more smoke than fire. One source: “I think Kyle’s waiting for Ottawa.”
ToneDog
56 years and counting. #FireTheShanaClan!
Wow Siegel is a Dubasite. Yeah, the Toronto media is so tough on this team.
imagine had dubas gotten that 5 yr extension, would have been brutal…it would have went about as well as his first 5 yrs.
ToneDog
56 years and counting. #FireTheShanaClan!
Dubas' camp leaking rumours to Pens to put pressure on Leafs to extend the clown.Quick Shifts: Why Treliving is in the mix to be Maple Leafs’ next GM
Stan Bowman and Brad Treliving should be in mix for Leafs GM job, Gerard Gallant wants back in, Coyotes must move and nine more NHL goodies in this edition of Luke Fox's Quick Shifts.www.sportsnet.ca
• We’re told the idea that Dubas would take over in Pittsburgh was more smoke than fire. One source: “I think Kyle’s waiting for Ottawa.”
PromisedLand
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Quick Shifts: Why Treliving is in the mix to be Maple Leafs’ next GM
Stan Bowman and Brad Treliving should be in mix for Leafs GM job, Gerard Gallant wants back in, Coyotes must move and nine more NHL goodies in this edition of Luke Fox's Quick Shifts.
• We’re told the idea that Dubas would take over in Pittsburgh was more smoke than fire. One source: “I think Kyle’s waiting for Ottawa.”
he grew up a sens fan so obviously he screwed the leafs big time and is waiting for ottawa
f*** the sens
PromisedLand
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Mirtle is trash. Mirtle built his new business "athletic" on bullshit/60 stats which were endorsed by dubas and sold the garbage to plenty of rookie fans who don't have math background or don't watch other hockey teams actually play hockey
Shanahan allowed dubsa to trade for murray man. what was that "big" trade taht shanahan apparently blocked? and as you rightly pointed out if the "big 4" sucked ass in the 2nd round there was 'nobody' that was going to come in and make up teh deficit.
do not listen to anything that mirtle, CJ, Seigel say. they are and will remain dubas' mouth pieces.
Former Leafs, Canucks GM Nonis understands how pressure affected Dubas' exit
Canucks Talk with Jamie Dodd and, today, Bik Nizzar spoke with former Canucks and Leafs General Manager Dave Nonis Friday to showcase what being in a pressure-filled front office role can look like and what the future may hold for Toronto.
Dave Nonis, centre, senior vice-president and GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs, watches the team practice with Brandon Pridham, left, assistant to the GM, and Kyle Dubas, assistant GM, following the firing of head coach Randy Carlyle in Toronto on Tuesday, January 6, 2015. Darren Calabrese/THE CANADIAN PRESS
Dubas spoke to the press Monday regarding his future with the club, how he needed to discuss the future with his family, and how the thought of taking a step back had crossed his mind.
Canucks Talk with Jamie Dodd and, today, Bik Nizzar spoke with former Canucks and Leafs General Manager Dave Nonis Friday to showcase what being in a pressure-filled front office role can look like and what the future may hold for Toronto.
“It can be a difficult situation, even when you're winning. There were times, even in Vancouver, I remember one morning taking my son to school and there was a TV crew in my driveway," Nonis said. "So, those things happen, and you have to be able to deal with them... It can be difficult on the family, it can be difficult on your wife, your kids, and you have to understand that and be able to deal with it.”
"Because in the Canadian market, whether it's Vancouver, Winnipeg, Edmonton, Calgary, you're going to have a fan base that is very interested and — in some cases — may cross the line to the point where you feel like you're being invaded,” he added.
Nonis spoke further on how some players and front office staff preferred avoiding the spotlight, admitting that the bright lights took their toll and that it would be understandable if they were part of why Dubas avoided committing to Toronto.
“At the end, it sounded like (Dubas) didn't want to do (continue with the Leafs). And, you know, there was a point there from the team where they felt that they had to move on because of the decisiveness or wishy-washy interest," Nonis explained on why he felt Dubas wouldn't return. "I believe that he wanted to come back, and there were family issues there that made the last week more difficult for him.”
Asked about the precarious position for an incoming GM, Nonis was succinct in describing the stakes for whoever was next in line to head the Maple Leafs ship.
“Incredibly risky,” Nonis responded.
“They may have to make a change. And in the makeup, maybe it's just a coach; maybe the coach stays, and they trade one of the players. Whoever comes in is going to have to make that determination. But usually, when you trade the best player in the trade, generally speaking, the team that gets the best player wins."
"They have some of the best players in the league on their roster. But time is also ticking, you've got Matthews with the one year left before his no-move kicks in, and then you're in between a rock and a hard place," Nonis added. "It'll be a very busy and interesting summer for whoever gets that job. And I would also expect that this is going to be a job for someone who's done it before, because the importance of making the right moves can impact the franchise for a decade.”
uncleben
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Franchise records, trophies, and breaking an absolutely embarrassing 20 year curse?
Haha, the Dubas haters in full force spinning their narratives. Funny bullshit.
Shanny doesn't have that much to do with the on ice product.
Additionally he's getting praise mostly because he didn't take Dubas's garbage
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Quick Shifts: Why Treliving is in the mix to be Maple Leafs’ next GM
Stan Bowman and Brad Treliving should be in mix for Leafs GM job, Gerard Gallant wants back in, Coyotes must move and nine more NHL goodies in this edition of Luke Fox's Quick Shifts.
• We’re told the idea that Dubas would take over in Pittsburgh was more smoke than fire. One source: “I think Kyle’s waiting for Ottawa.”
Gotta love that the dude is already trying to media leak his way into the sens job.
Dorion hasn't been terrible there. especially considering the constraints
I think part of the reason he tried the sympathy shit was the pens weren't interested
Petrus
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I am convinced that question was served up at Dubas’s request.
Huge miscalculation by Dubas’s and his agent.
I'm sorry what about trophies? We won 1 regular season covid Canadian division.
Other then that we won nothing
ToneDog
56 years and counting. #FireTheShanaClan!
It is shame there was no Justin Turdeau trophy for the winner of the Canadian divison.
It does sound like he had more to do with it than most probably originally thought.
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