Confirmed with Link: Kyle Dubas Not Returning

[egd27]

We obviously don't have a plan B because we thought plan A was going to work. So, now we have a short window to make a decision on our coach and prepare for an important off-season. I feel we need to move swiftly now and that is not good when you don't have a plan?

I would be shocked if there wasn't a Plan B.

Why do folks think that the people that run these organizations are unable to think more than 2 days ahead?

 

[Apex Predator]

I would be shocked if there wasn't a Plan B.

Why do folks think that the people that run these organizations are unable to think more than 2 days ahead?

Plan B is Pridham in the intern role.

 

[notbias]

As dark as the Dubas years? That’s bleak

Much darker.

On a side note, I always thought your avatar matched your posts quiet well.

 

[PromisedLand]

Kinda funny his final downfall was negotiating a contract. He was never very good at that

LOL

 

[saffronleaf]

f*** Shanahan

 

[Gallagbi]

Plan B is Pridham in the intern role.

An interim role with 6 weeks to make major decisions on the roster is troubling

 

[justashadowof]

What are the moves he wanted to make and why do they think it would have helped? Need names!!

Mirtle won't be able to divulge that information. It's best to just use your imagination. Patrick Kane 75% retained for a 7th, Hampus Lindholm for the rights to Denis Malgin, etc.

 

[DarkKnight]

Look, the Lesfs have the most bloated organization in the NHL under Dubas, we are best suited to carry on during this intermediary time. This idea it will be chaos, give your head a shake, there are more suits around the Leafs than Tip Top Tailors.

 

[Apex Predator]

An interim role with 6 weeks to make major decisions on the roster is troubling

Never said plan B was a good plan lol

 

[Menzinger]

I would be shocked if there wasn't a Plan B.

Why do folks think that the people that run these organizations are unable to think more than 2 days ahead?

What about this process gives you the confidence that's the case?

Seems as if Shanny is leaning hard on Pridham to carry the load for a few weeks while he figures out what to do next

 

[egd27]

Much darker.

On a side note, I always thought your avatar matched your posts quiet well.

Always thought the opposite of yours.

 

[saffronleaf]

Bro you don't do such a huge turnover on the TDL. That was the dumbest thing that dubas did. Then you apply context and look at how Matthews' season had gone (which wasn't that great) and see that Tavares isn't in top 50 in even strength production; no sane GM makes big trade using that context let alone changing almost half the team on TDL.

Roster makeover should be offseason not TDL. At TDL you add help not change the outlook of the team.

One of many reasons why Dubas is a trash GM and why its the best thing that he isn't with the organization anymore

bro you make good points but dubas is not a trash gm.

 

[GoonieFace]

Much darker.

On a side note, I always thought your avatar matched your posts quiet well.

Well Sloth was usually right and got away from the Fratellis. Are you just bitter because the majority of us saw this coming years ago. The only time I gave Dubas credit was for this trade deadline, otherwise he was a complete fraud of a GM, and apparently a slimy person

 

[saffronleaf]

What about this process gives you the confidence that's the case?

Seems as if Shanny is leaning hard on Pridham to carry the load for a few weeks while he figures out what to do next

can't believe he staked the future of this team on a f***ing press conference dubas did where he wore his heart on his sleeve

 

[Martin Skoula]

I would be shocked if there wasn't a Plan B.

Why do folks think that the people that run these organizations are unable to think more than 2 days ahead?

Shanahan directly said he is going to start thinking about the GM search process after yesterdays press conference. Not “I’m going to finalize our list of candidates and start trimming it down” but “start the search process”.

Sure Treliving or whoever is trying to get the job by lobbying through the media, but I don’t see how that’s different than hiring promoting Keefe without interviewing anyone else which got rightfully panned.

 

[GoonieFace]

can't believe he staked the future of this team on a f***ing press conference dubas did where he wore his heart on his sleeve

Dubas was trying to garner sympathy, that was a load of BS, plain and simple

 

[Gallagbi]

can't believe he staked the future of this team on a f***ing press conference dubas did where he wore his heart on his sleeve

This is what doesnt quite add up to me. The only thing that seems to be "new" from that conference is Dubas potential to walk away. Shanny noted he was aware of the Family stuff

 

[Field of Dreams]

Dubas was at great finding undervalued talent on the cheap. He was also able to find value at the draft despite having little draft capital to work with. While he made both good and bad trades, his trading has been overall a positive as well. He is forward thinking and I get the sense staff and players enjoyed working under him.

My critisisms are as follows: for all his talk of using statistics and other tools to remove bias from decision making, he seemed to be particularly beholden to his own personal biases. I am skeptical about his ability to make hard decisions. He was unable to resign Matthews and Marner to fair contracts in line with their peers.

At the end of the day, Dubas was given the reigns of a team in the best possible scenario and while his process looks solid, it hasn't delivered results. He was way out of line playing games with Shanny after one series win in 9 years.

 

[Menzinger]

can't believe he staked the future of this team on a f***ing press conference dubas did where he wore his heart on his sleeve

Yep. The entire offseason plan - which was to double down on Dubas - went up in smoke in a few hours lol.

Shanny couldn't have been bothered to get a better read on Dubas weeks/months ago I guess.

 

[notbias]

I would be shocked if there wasn't a Plan B.

Why do folks think that the people that run these organizations are unable to think more than 2 days ahead?

Prepared to be shocked. Go watch the presser again and tell me you're confident he has a plan.

 

[egd27]

What about this process gives you the confidence that's the case?

Seems as if Shanny is leaning hard on Pridham to carry the load for a few weeks while he figures out what to do next

In the short term, probably.

It's not like a Plan B means they had somebody ready to trot out yesterday once they parted ways with Dubas.

 

[Ace]

I would be shocked if there wasn't a Plan B.

Why do folks think that the people that run these organizations are unable to think more than 2 days ahead?

They spent a year evaluating and then scrapped their conclusion after one press conference and a contract proposal

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

I don't know because shannahan didn't act like the shadow GM and Dubas tried to strong arm him for more money.

His literal mouth piece is saying he might have nixed "some" trades that may have made us better. While also being vague

That's far from being a shadow GM

A journalist is untrustworthy but you and a good number of people are only too eager to eat up the narrative provided by Shanahan and MLSE, who of course have no agenda in wanting to make Dubas look like a greedy dumb-dumb and themselves like the reasonable ones.

 

[notbias]

They spent a year evaluating and then scrapped their conclusion after one press conference and a contract proposal

That was part of the plan obviously.........

 

[saffronleaf]

Yep. The entire offseason plan - which was to double down on Dubas - went up in smoke in a few hours lol.

Shanny couldn't have been bothered to get a better read on Dubas weeks/months ago I guess.

clown franchise. hope shanahan is fired next.