Confirmed with Link: Kyle Dubas named President of Hockey Operations

[IcedCapp]

Dubas: "This is tough on my family, I don't know if I can keep doing this to them, I may need some time off"

Leafs fans: "'WE'RE GONNA LET DUBAS GO AND HE'S GONNA JUST SIT AT HOME FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE REGRETTING THE DAY HE HAD HUMAN EMOTIONS! HE PINKY PROMISED!"

FSG: "Here's 40 million dollars (read in Chris Tucker's voice)"

Dubas: "suddenly, the fact that my kids and their kids, and their kids will be generationally wealthy seems to have relieved some of our stress"

Leafs fans: "SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE"

 

[SomeDude]

Dubas: "This is tough on my family, I don't know if I can keep doing this to them, I may need some time off"

Leafs fans: "'WE'RE GONNA LET DUBAS GO AND HE'S GONNA JUST SIT AT HOME FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE REGRETTING THE DAY HE HAD HUMAN EMOTIONS! HE PINKY PROMISED!"

FSG: "Here's 40 million dollars (red in Chris Tucker's voice)"

Dubas: "suddenly, the fact that my kids and their kids, and their kids will be generationally wealthy seems to have relieved some of our stress"

Leafs fans: "SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE"

That turned into Metal Gear Solid rather abruptly.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

Part of the illusion is the whole 'love of the game' fantasy.

They would do it for free.

That ceased being a thing a hundred years ago. Certainly since the sports made billions and salaries were in the millions.

It is a business.

But shattering the average yinzer's (from whatever city including Toronto) illusion is a red line too far.

Idiots.

Especially when the guy you are bitching about looks like an accountant. You should have had a clue.

 

[Sideline]

Dubas: "This is tough on my family, I don't know if I can keep doing this to them, I may need some time off"

Leafs fans: "'WE'RE GONNA LET DUBAS GO AND HE'S GONNA JUST SIT AT HOME FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE REGRETTING THE DAY HE HAD HUMAN EMOTIONS! HE PINKY PROMISED!"

FSG: "Here's 40 million dollars (read in Chris Tucker's voice)"

Dubas: "suddenly, the fact that my kids and their kids, and their kids will be generationally wealthy seems to have relieved some of our stress"

Leafs fans: "SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE"

But I would give up my 84k a year job as assistant regional manager for a chain of fast food franchises to watch hockey full time! Don't you understand that the only frame of reference that matters is mine?

 

[Josey Wales]

40 Million Neighborhood is quite nice I hear

 

[Turin]

Part of the illusion is the whole 'love of the game' fantasy.

They would do it for free.

That ceased being a thing a hundred years ago. Certainly since the sports made billions and salaries were in the millions.

It is a business.

But shattering the average yinzer's (from whatever city including Toronto) illusion is a red line too far.

Idiots.

Especially when the guy you are bitching about looks like an accountant. You should have had a clue.

Can you imagine wanting to spend half the season on the road, early practices, constant physical training and, the most important element, dealing with 22 other guys who barely have a high school education every day? Sounds like shit if you don’t get paid a lot - hockey ain’t that fun. Not to mention you’re spending your offseasons training so the next guy doesn’t take your job and at a moments notice you could be relocated to the other side of the continent. Obviously most of that doesn’t apply to Dubas - but it’s even more exaggerated in executives cases. Ya it’s a great job buy that’s because you are paid well for it. Now add in Toronto’s media environment where Sid Sexiero is calling you a fraud, Steve Simmons is insinuating you’re a bad person and Nick Kypreos is trying to convince your fans that your best players always wanna play in LA.

 

[hockeywiz542]

‘He’s that silent assassin’: Wes Clark is helping Kyle Dubas shape the Leafs

As the Leafs continue to forge a path as a forward-thinking organization, Clark’s influence will likely only continue to grow.

theathletic.com

July 8, 2020

As the 2018 NHL Draft inched closer, Jason Bukala and Wes Clark continued to argue.

Bukala, the Florida Panthers’ director of amateur scouting, and Clark, an amateur scout with the organization, couldn’t agree on whether to select Peterborough Petes forward Semyon Der-Arguchintsev. The forward was skilled but small.

If he was available beyond the second round, Clark believed they should take him. Bukala disagreed. With other undersized prospects in the system, Bukala didn’t want to add too many of the same body types to their pool.

The Panthers never got the opportunity as Der-Arguchintsev was selected in the third round, 76th overall, by the Maple Leafs.

It was a typical suggestion from Clark, who made a name for himself with the Panthers by looking beyond size and other typical hockey attributes.

“He’s a very deep thinker,” Bukala said. “He digs in on players but he also understands the vision of the organization and the leadership ahead of him and what they’re looking for in players.”

Clark has brought those attributes with him to Toronto, where he works as the Leafs’ assistant director of player personnel and, unofficially, Kyle Dubas’ right-hand advisor. He is unorthodox and influential. And although he was among Craig Custance’s list of the top 40 under 40 shaping the NHL’s future in 2018, he still operated largely behind the scenes. Many Leafs fans would be justified in not knowing his name. The Leafs declined to make Clark available for this story.

But those who know Clark say he is one of the more unique people in professional hockey. As the Leafs continue to forge a path as a progressive, forward-thinking organization, Clark’s influence will likely only continue to grow.

“He thinks so differently from so many people in the hockey world,” said Brandon DeFazio, a longtime friend and recent KHL player. “He appreciates so many different things that often aren’t valued at a high level.”

It was called the “Dungeon.”

Richard Clark’s homemade gym in the basement of his Oakville home didn’t have air conditioning and was stuffed with as much old gym equipment he could find.

“It was archaic,” said Richard Clark, Wes’ father. “But it worked.”

In the late ’90s and early 2000s, the “Dungeon” was where local athletes found the kind of intense workouts they couldn’t get elsewhere. Richard had tried working out with his son and his son’s friend Matt Moulson at a local YMCA. But Clark didn’t want to be seen around his father, whose workouts were considerably aggressive.

And so they gathered with other local teenage hockey players in the “Dungeon” to push each other.

 

[TheGoldenJet]

Good read for those not quite sold on Kyle as POHO yet:

Joe Starkey: Is it OK to be underwhelmed by Penguins' hire of Kyle Dubas?

PITTSBURGH — The Penguins' official website does not list an individual as owning the team. Under "Name" it reads "Fenway Sports Group," and under "Role" it says "Ownership."

kdhnews.com

 

[Malkinstheman]

I wonder if Dubas will atleast hire an AGM to help him out over the next month. Hockey Ops is an absolute ghost town right now other than Dubas. No GM, AGMs or director of Pro scouting. The only other person seams to be Erik Heasley who is the GM of WBS.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

Can you imagine wanting to spend half the season on the road, early practices, constant physical training and, the most important element, dealing with 22 other guys who barely have a high school education every day? Sounds like shit if you don’t get paid a lot - hockey ain’t that fun. Not to mention you’re spending your offseasons training so the next guy doesn’t take your job and at a moments notice you could be relocated to the other side of the continent. Obviously most of that doesn’t apply to Dubas - but it’s even more exaggerated in executives cases. Ya it’s a great job buy that’s because you are paid well for it. Now add in Toronto’s media environment where Sid Sexiero is calling you a fraud, Steve Simmons is insinuating you’re a bad person and Nick Kypreos is trying to convince your fans that your best players always wanna play in LA.

Not to mention that you likely will leave the game with CTE, a shortened lifespan, and without several of your original teeth. Without significant pay I am not interested.

Again, not Dubas' situation.

I would equate him to, if it works, Michael Eisner and Disney. Eisner got some serious bank. So serious that some complained about how greedy CEOs were. I bet the stockholders of his era did not mind a dime paid to him. Because he did things that succeeded wildly and made them a lot of money.

I often think of the story of Ben and Jerrys. The Ice Cream Guys. A couple of hippies out of New Hampshire who opened a store in a closed gas station and it grew from there. They were ready to retire. They had only paid themselves $50,000 a year salary because no one needs to be paid more than that. Never mind that they owned stock and made their money there.

So, they were going to retire and wanted a CEO. They would double the salary. $100,000 a year. No takers. They put together a contest. Write down why you would be our CEO in 500 words or less and submit it at our stores and we will pick the winner!

The stock price dropped in half over night.

Ben and Jerry, those old hippies, forked up the millions per year for a legit CEO.

That is the real world.

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[ThosePuckingPenguins]

I mean, it was public knowledge that FSG wanted Dubas bad. Wasn’t like it was some secret.

 

[Turin]

It's not tampering if some guy who knows people in Fenway tells some guy who tells Dubas what FSG feels about him. Not anymore than anything else done in sports. I mean they let Dubas manage a whole year without job security, obviously he's gonna want some intel should Toronto not give him a new deal.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Leafs drama is the dumbest f***ing drama.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

This all stems from an article that speculated that Dubas knew that the Pens had an opening and interest in him in the past so he knew that he had a likely fall back.

I have seen articles mentioning how the Sens were extremely interested as well. Did they tamper?

That is what writers do. Speculate.

I am not saying that there has never been collusion or cheating. New England Patriots I am looking at you. Basically for decades. But FSG is about as professionally run as you can get. The IBM white button down shirt types.

They did not tamper.

They did not have to.

The writing was on the wall and they just watched it happen.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

It's not tampering if some guy who knows people in Fenway tells some guy who tells Dubas what FSG feels about him. Not anymore than anything else done in sports. I mean they let Dubas manage a whole year without job security, obviously he's gonna want some intel should Toronto not give him a new deal.

There doesn't even need to be a conversation.

Dubas is a fairly intelligent guy. If he's sitting at home with his wife in late March, wondering about his future with MLSE, and sees the unrest in Pittsburgh, he can easily put two-and-two together.

"Gee, if FSG fires Hextall, there would be an opening and I'd bet they'd be interested in a guy like me."

Five minutes of research by anyone would have put Dubas at the top of FSG's wishlist.

 

[Shrimper]

Is funny how bitchy Leafs nation has been about it

 

[Lara Emily]

The news was talking about Dubas as a fairytale best case dream option while the Leafs were still in the playoffs iirc

Like everyone knew if he became available Pittsburgh would go for it... he was the biggest name by an infinite number

 

[td_ice]

Is CSI Ottawa still in business? We can get them on the case.

 

[Josey Wales]

Is CSI Ottawa still in business? We can get them on the case.

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[Turin]

Is funny how bitchy Leafs nation has been about it

There's an extremely vocal 40% of their board that's anti-KD and just farm likes in a circle jerk of insane posts like "DOOBLER is worse than Chiarelli and people don't even know!"

 

[Josey Wales]

There's an extremely vocal 40% of their board that's anti-KD and just farm likes in a circle jerk of insane posts like "DOOBLER is worse than Chiarelli and people don't even know!"

Like The Golden Jet

 

[Extra Texture]

Opinion | The boy wonders: Does Kyle Dubas know what he’s getting into with the Penguins?

Pittsburgh has an old, tired group and the cupboards are bare.

www.thestar.com

Good lord, I'm not exactly here to drink the Dubas kool aid, but that is an awful article.

-Spends most of the article tearing Dubas down, and then near the end "most would agree that Dubas did good work in Toronto"
-Intimates that Dubas ousted Babcock in a power struggle for control, like some Machievallian game. By all accounts, Babcock was a worthless dinosaur, living on past glories who took pleasure in gaslighting his players. If Dubas ousted him, he should be commended.
-Talks about the PGH media fawning over Dubas. As if the Toronto media wasnt calling him a genius for the better part of the last 5 years (or more)

All in all, reads like an "Actually, I'm better off" letter from a scored lover. Just because outside hockey media arent sycophants/lunatics like Yohe, Rossi or Madden, doesnt make these "legacy" mouthpieces like Cox, Simmonds, Garrioch, or Larry Brooks any better.

 

[Ulf5]

‘He’s that silent assassin’: Wes Clark is helping Kyle Dubas shape the Leafs

As the Leafs continue to forge a path as a forward-thinking organization, Clark’s influence will likely only continue to grow.

theathletic.com

July 8, 2020

As the 2018 NHL Draft inched closer, Jason Bukala and Wes Clark continued to argue.

Bukala, the Florida Panthers’ director of amateur scouting, and Clark, an amateur scout with the organization, couldn’t agree on whether to select Peterborough Petes forward Semyon Der-Arguchintsev. The forward was skilled but small.

If he was available beyond the second round, Clark believed they should take him. Bukala disagreed. With other undersized prospects in the system, Bukala didn’t want to add too many of the same body types to their pool.

The Panthers never got the opportunity as Der-Arguchintsev was selected in the third round, 76th overall, by the Maple Leafs.

It was a typical suggestion from Clark, who made a name for himself with the Panthers by looking beyond size and other typical hockey attributes.

“He’s a very deep thinker,” Bukala said. “He digs in on players but he also understands the vision of the organization and the leadership ahead of him and what they’re looking for in players.”

Clark has brought those attributes with him to Toronto, where he works as the Leafs’ assistant director of player personnel and, unofficially, Kyle Dubas’ right-hand advisor. He is unorthodox and influential. And although he was among Craig Custance’s list of the top 40 under 40 shaping the NHL’s future in 2018, he still operated largely behind the scenes. Many Leafs fans would be justified in not knowing his name. The Leafs declined to make Clark available for this story.

But those who know Clark say he is one of the more unique people in professional hockey. As the Leafs continue to forge a path as a progressive, forward-thinking organization, Clark’s influence will likely only continue to grow.

“He thinks so differently from so many people in the hockey world,” said Brandon DeFazio, a longtime friend and recent KHL player. “He appreciates so many different things that often aren’t valued at a high level.”

It was called the “Dungeon.”

Richard Clark’s homemade gym in the basement of his Oakville home didn’t have air conditioning and was stuffed with as much old gym equipment he could find.

“It was archaic,” said Richard Clark, Wes’ father. “But it worked.”

In the late ’90s and early 2000s, the “Dungeon” was where local athletes found the kind of intense workouts they couldn’t get elsewhere. Richard had tried working out with his son and his son’s friend Matt Moulson at a local YMCA. But Clark didn’t want to be seen around his father, whose workouts were considerably aggressive.

And so they gathered with other local teenage hockey players in the “Dungeon” to push each other.

OUR Matt Moulson?

 

[Josey Wales]

Good lord, I'm not exactly here to drink the Dubas kool aid, but that is an awful article.

-Spends most of the article tearing Dubas down, and then near the end "most would agree that Dubas did good work in Toronto"
-Intimates that Dubas ousted Babcock in a power struggle for control, like some Machievallian game. By all accounts, Babcock was a worthless dinosaur, living on past glories who took pleasure in gaslighting his players. If Dubas ousted him, he should be commended.
-Talks about the PGH media fawning over Dubas. As if the Toronto media wasnt calling him a genius for the better part of the last 5 years (or more)

All in all, reads like an "Actually, I'm better off" letter from a scored lover. Just because outside hockey media arent sycophants/lunatics like Yohe, Rossi or Madden, doesnt make these "legacy" mouthpieces like Cox, Simmonds, Garrioch, or Larry Brooks any better.

Oh Good Lord Damien COCKS hahaha