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Confirmed with Link: Kyle Dubas named President of Hockey Operations

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centipede2233 said:
I’ve followed dubas tenure with the leafs closely and I can’t imagine a better person than Kyle dubas to lead your team into the next tanking phase. his trade history is impeccable like top hits kadri for Barrie and kerfoot or his penchant love for small hockey players Marchment for malgin. But that’s not all. Expect 1st rders to be traded for injured nick foligno’s at the deadline or his best song catelogue “I love injury prone goalies and can’t play half a season”.

inherited a matthews, nylander and marner on ELC’s and a taveras landed on his lap and got an amazing 1 playoff round win in 5 years against a depleted blue Line in Tampa.

its a great hire, I promise! :)
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Your team's sucked for 60 years.
 
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centipede2233 said:
I’ve followed dubas tenure with the leafs closely and I can’t imagine a better person than Kyle dubas to lead your team into the next tanking phase. his trade history is impeccable like top hits kadri for Barrie and kerfoot or his penchant love for small hockey players Marchment for malgin. But that’s not all. Expect 1st rders to be traded for injured nick foligno’s at the deadline or his best song catelogue “I love injury prone goalies and can’t play half a season”.

inherited a matthews, nylander and marner on ELC’s and a taveras landed on his lap and got an amazing 1 playoff round win in 5 years against a depleted blue Line in Tampa.

its a great hire, I promise! :)
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The thing is Dubas won't be to blame when Matthews signs with the Coyotes.

Oh you haven't heard? He already bought the train ticket. His mama gonna be real happy! Shes probably is his ear already.
 
Sidney the Kidney said:
This goes back to my whole issue with Sullivan.

In a cap world, you're never going to have a perfect roster. Even the best teams will have 2 or 3 "less than ideal" players dressing regularly. It's up to the coach to mitigate that by playing them in a role and with ice time that hides the problem rather than makes it worse.

Last season was a microcosm of this. Was our bottom six good? Not really. Hextall dropped the ball. But it's also on the coach to NOT play Jeff Carter like he's prime Jordan Staal. So instead of minimizing the flaws in the roster, Sullivan exaggerated them.

This upcoming season, Dubas (or whoever is ultimately the GM) can make improvements to the roster. But with the salary cap, there's still going to be a couple of spots filled by meh players. It's up to Sullivan not to use those "meh" players as though they're important cogs in the machine, and I don't think he's shown an ability to do that.
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I guess we can only hope that he has spent time reflecting on the job he's done here the last half decade and ways in which he can introduce some flexibility into his thinking. Considering he spent most of his end of year presser bitching about how they were robbed by the hockey gods and their powerplay was actually super great and scored a bunch of goals that just didn't go in... I won't be holding my breath. It doesn't help that he gets ballwashed by literally everyone in the hockey world despite falling on his face for years straight, frankly.

Also speaking of ERod... he had his frustrations but I said way back when that he was a guy that should have been in a group that was evaluated for 3C at the end of the year. Then they went and shit themselves by locking down Carter midseason for the lols or whatever. I wish we were talking about ERod making like 500K too much right now to play 3C as opposed to sitting on the husk of Jeff Carter and hoping he doesn't get played too much next season.
 
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I'd actually really like Botteril coming in as GM at this point, he could give Dubas a lot more knowledge of the org, better than relying on just Sullivan, and handle the cap. But the other names all have their strengths as well.
 
AjaxTelamon said:
I'd actually really like Botteril coming in as GM at this point, he could give Dubas a lot more knowledge of the org, better than relying on just Sullivan, and handle the cap. But the other names all have their strengths as well.
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Botterill hasn't been in the Penguins organization since like 2017. What would he know about the organization at this point?

The only players under contract for next year that were on the team in 2017 were Crosby, Malkin, Letang, Guentzel, Rust and Ruhwedel (lol Ruhwedel). He was hired by Buffalo before the Penguins even won their 2017 cup.
 
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Yultron said:
Jim Rutherford wasn’t a big fish ??

You got 2 Stanley Cups and he was the perfect win now GM when he was hired
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He absolutely was not.

He had been coasting on 06 for 8 years when he was hired and was largely thought of as a washed up wtf hire

Him doing what he did was a surprise not an expectation
 
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BlindWillyMcHurt said:
D... didn't you guys all really LIKE the 2022 offseason? Kapanen aside?
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Yes.

And part of me thinks that maybe one day we'll think Hextall got done dirty... which if he did, is all on him, because he clearly can't communicate with his superiors to save his job.

That said, there's two things about the offseason that made me and others go "hmm" at the time

1) a soft bottom six - everyone was complaining about the quality levels there from the get go and while Heinen looked good in terms of quality, he didn't make it a hard to play against unit. Given their likely use it seemed weird, and him locking himself into the two riskiest parts of it was... a choice. That bit him.

2) I liked the move to make the D bigger, but it was absolutely a gamble to subtract so much puck moving from our defence in Marino and Matheson when the team lived and died by that, particularly when riding a gamble in Dumo bouncing back (which I supported for want of better options, but there needed to be ruthlessness when it wasn't working). He got unlucky with the injuries to Letang and Petry, but it was a gamble, and he never moved to fix it when going wrong.

But... yeah. Lots of good stuff. Good chance he still has a job if Jarry didn't have an injury season from hell, although maybe the owners would have swept him aside to get Dubas if available.

And while there was good stuff, you can see the bad and it biting him wasn't a huge surprise.
 
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Night Shift said:
The thing is Dubas won't be to blame when Matthews signs with the Coyotes.

Oh you haven't heard? He already bought the train ticket. His mama gonna be real happy! Shes probably is his ear already.
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Dubas is the one that gave matthews a 5 yr contract. How would he not to be blamed….
 
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Not surprisingly, I thought Dubas did very well with the press conference. From a presentation standpoint, he's clearly intelligent and engaging - addressing reporters by name, answering questions in detail without rambling, etc.

He also provided a glimpse into his plans without getting too specific, which allows him wiggle room. His answer on Jarry was perfect. He'll use the resources available to get a sense of his play and personality, evaluate the market, and see where Jarry slots in. If there are other options, they'll pursue them. But if Jarry is the best of what's available, you pursue that route.

His answer about the bottom six was also refreshing, because the Pens have not had that concept the last few years. The bottom six has not adequately supported the top six at all. They simply haven't been good enough.

Finally, I like his flexibility. He is not committed to any one structure in the front office or made pre-determinations that something has to happen. He's going to talk to people, evaluate the situation, and go from there.

I do think that some folks from Toronto may follow him. I would keep a close eye on his four previous assistant GMs. Perhaps they get a promotion in Toronto under Brad Treliving and stay, but I think that's why Dubas immediately mentioned the challenge of getting permission to talk to folks right now and that it would likely happen after the draft and bulk of free agency instead.
 
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Yultron said:
Jim Rutherford wasn’t a big fish ??

You got 2 Stanley Cups and he was the perfect win now GM when he was hired
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JR fell bass ackwards into those Cups. It was a miraculous like 18 months of moves with Kessel forcing his way to Pittsburgh and JR seemingly accidentally hitting homerun after homerun before the clock struck midnight, the blind luck ran out, and he turned back into the pumpkin he's been for the other 30ish years of his career.
 
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Peat said:
Healthy competent goaltending. That is the biggest one. The difference between then and now is the difference between gold and candy foil.

I would rather smear the walls with my own shit than have another long extended conversation about the differences in our rosters from year to year (which is probably a prelude to doing exactly that). Which, in any case, isn't a fantastic way to grade them because you've also got to consider the opposition. I think it's unquestionable that the general quality of the best teams in the east have skyrocketed since the Pens won cups.

But the goaltending thing has to be pointed out. The difference between breakout Murray and the corpse he became as the injuries rolled in, and the rollercoaster that has been Jarry and DeSmith (availability and form) is night and day. And the problem is finding goalies is hard as hell. Once your guy breaks down, good luck fixing that.
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Don't worry I won't drag all that out again.

I'll just say that I don't spend much time getting worked up or trying to figure out goaltending. It's a giant ball of chaos. Nobody saw Murray coming... and going... either.
 
Well, Dubas is a good hire. Excited about this.

Let's see what Sullivan can do with a better roster. No excuses for him this year. Dubas and whoever ends up being the gm are almost certainly going to build out a better roster than Hextall gave him, so if they suck again, that's on Sully. I don't foresee the Dubas regime making a lot of boneheaded moves.
 
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