Kyle Dubas - - Horrible Asset Mismanagement

[Its not your fault]

Saad or Mike Rielly next. Tbh.

 

[Apex Predator]

how accurate is WAR in baseball?

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

 

[SprDaVE]

Is that saying the changes today now makes them the top team in the division?

That losing Hyman as the only downgrade isn't a huge loss compared to what other teams lost? Also probably pretty high on Mrazek and Bunting.

But it was mostly a reply to people that use WAR for certain players and judge accordingly, while the same model is extremely optimistic for the Leafs in the same breath.

Can't take one facet and ignore the other, right?

 

[FraumBallard]

its not really. id rather have nothing than taking peanuts from edmonton to help them with their cap.

Okay.
Seems like a poor strategy but he is the Wonder Boy and has been very successful so far.
Let’s keep taking zero when we could get something.
Solid plan.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Comparing the Marner deal to aggregate Point deals makes my blood boil! Marner gets to go back for more too..fk off

 

[FraumBallard]

while I do agree in a sense but I let those side given the direction of our team. we basically used our own players as rentals trying to win, unfortunately we kept losing though.
Would have been nice to gain assets for our departing players but if we didn't view our selves as contenders and closer to a bubble team I think u would have seen atleast a couple of them moved for future assets

We are nowhere near contenders.
So easy to see.
Unless you drink the reinvent the wheel kool aid.

 

[The Masters]

eric lindros ?

 

[Wafflewhipper]

The biggest mistake was building a team from analytics only. Defensively this team improved last year. Hopefully thats not lost on anyone. Its the heart,will and determination thats missing

 

[The Masters]

If you fire Dubas, you have to fire Shanahan, since he's the one who made the call to move on from Lou/Hunter and put his faith in Dubas when the situation became untenable in the front office.

MLSE will force Shanny to can Dubas or him.

 

[ACC1224]

That losing Hyman as the only downgrade isn't a huge loss compared to what other teams lost? Also probably pretty high on Mrazek and Bunting.

But it was mostly a reply to people that use WAR for certain players and judge accordingly, while the same model is extremely optimistic for the Leafs in the same breath.

Can't take one facet and ignore the other, right?

Thanks for the explanation. I’d agree Hyman is a loss but not a huge one.

 

[hotpaws]

''protecting our cap space'' . very dramatic , lol

 

[All Mod Cons]

We're definitely better than Tampa.

 

[shortfuze]

Okay.
Seems like a poor strategy but he is the Wonder Boy and has been very successful so far.
Let’s keep taking zero when we could get something.
Solid plan.

Cap space is valuable. It’s like someone offering way below market value for your car. Well you might as well just sell it to them cause they’re going to get one anyways. It’s the same as trades. Why accept something if it below value. I can’t believe people don’t understand how this works.

 

[rocketman588]

I said next year, wait until after this group graduates. Read my first post before you knee jerk respond.

If Robertson can’t crack this lineup with the stiffs we signed, we’ll….He will, kids a keeper.

Yes but if he cracks the lineup Dubas can't brag about his prospect pool 4D chess bro

 

[PromisedLand]

eric lindros ?

Friedman is a machine. The dude has been on it since 7ish am and still going. I wonder if he even took a lunch break today

 

[sxvnert]

''protecting our cap space'' . very dramatic , lol

Protecting cap space for deadline acquisitions without any assets to trade.

 

[Dreakmur]

We're definitely better than Tampa.

We might have a better 3rd line. Other than that, they’re still better than bus everywhere.

 

[PromisedLand]

The biggest mistake was building a team from analytics only. Defensively this team improved last year. Hopefully thats not lost on anyone. Its the heart,will and determination thats missing

I wouldn't read too much into "defensive improvements" for this team yet. North division offensive rivals were probably only Jets and Oilers.

Now in the Atlantic you get Tampa, Florida, Boston, and freakin pain in the ass Sens;

and then you have to play metro teams quite often too; with only 2 games with the western conference teams.

 

[All Mod Cons]

We might have a better 3rd line. Other than that, they’re still better than bus everywhere.

Well I must've read the fancy graph wrong.

 

[PromisedLand]

Protecting cap space for deadline acquisitions without any assets to trade.

dont tempt him he will throw the 2024 and 2025 first rounders

 

[rocketman588]

eric lindros ?

So our new strategy is to use our 3.5 million of Cap space*. To hopefully beg other teams to give us a first line LW that they know we're desperate for?

I can't see us getting shredded in a trade at all using this philosophy when multiple other teams have boat loads of space

If this was the strategy we would have been better off just paying hyman.


* Which we only have if we run a roster of 20 and keep Robertson in the minors

Our bargaining position is literally bend over and take it.

That's why I'm so pissed about the dermott and kempf deals why do we need to over pay these dudes

 

[Coachcorner]

eric lindros ?

I think we might hit ritchie with a batch sire. He can score on the PP, hit some, check some, still fighting some. What! Then we would have some current thugs and newsome. We would be a better team. Lets see if dubas can get ritchie to canada. Some people don't want to play in this country right now.

 

[Racer88]

looking at the prices for rhd right now, he's a fricken steal.

He is only a steal if he can get the job done on a contending team that we aspire to be. If his strongest feature that he is on a cheap contract then I’m not sure he moves the team forward

 

[67leafs]

Marner and Tavares contracts have killed this team imo