Rumor: Kris Russell to Edmonton 1 year/3.1 million?

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

Blocking a lot of shots means you play in your own end too much.

simplistic thinking... same as hits means you dont have the puck

some guys simply play a more gritty game than others do... hit more... block shots more...

im not necessarily saying russell deserves praise, but your generalized argument is bunk. some of the greatest dmen in nhl history blocked shots

 

[McRpro]

Andrej Sekera has a NMC? Hahaha. Brilliant.

Stay gold, Chiarelli. Stay gold.

Why wouldn't he? Top UFA defenseman couple years ago, kinda standard stuff ya know.

 

[Cawz]

Some of these posts are ****ing ridiculous. Russell is a #4, good skating and outlet pass, puts his body on the line every night and is tough as nails. If there's a scrum and he's on the ice, guarentee he's involved, wears his heart on his sleeve and sticks up for his team mates.

He has his knocks and deficiencies, but if this is true, Edmonton gets better with this signing for sure.


And I'm a Flames fan.

Yup. HF Boards in a nutshell - mostly ****ing ridiculous posts.

Its a good signing, like you said. Good depth for the d, a bit much but its only 1 year.

 

[tmurfin]

Nope, he's a #6/#7. Nowhere close to a #4.

Nope, he's a #4

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

Wow.
So happy that the Habs don't have to pay 3.1M/Year for a guy like freaking Kris Russell.

You're right. You pay $1M more per year for Alexei Emelin, who is worse by every metric.

 

[Mentallydull]

Why wouldn't he? Top UFA defenseman couple years ago, kinda standard stuff ya know.

And our best d-man last year.

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

It really is going to be like this forever for the Oilers, isn't it?

Signing players who make them better, or getting hit with drive-by flames for signing players who make them better?

 

[Legend123]

You're right. You pay $1M more per year for Alexei Emelin, who is worse by every metric.

Emelin is by far the more effective player. In Metrics and playstyle, stats and whatever else.

 

[ATypicalCanadian]

I mean if it's not Calgary a area he's familiar with then Edmonton has gotta be the next best thing.

 

[Barness01]

Terms good.

But he's a #5 who'll be played like a #3 and will suffer for it

He'll be played behind Klefbom, Larsson, Sekera, and probably Davidson too

 

[KGL]

Nope, he's a #4

"#4 D man"

http://public.tableau.com/shared/WYSKPS9G5?:display_count=yes

His shot suppression is so low that it's not even on the chart.

Like I said, not even CLOSE to a #4, raise your standards.

 

[Blitzago*]

Some of these posts are ****ing ridiculous. Russell is a #4, good skating and outlet pass, puts his body on the line every night and is tough as nails. If there's a scrum and he's on the ice, guarentee he's involved, wears his heart on his sleeve and sticks up for his team mates.

He has his knocks and deficiencies, but if this is true, Edmonton gets better with this signing for sure.


And I'm a Flames fan.

Solid post, I prefer Russell more as a number 5 with the abliity to play 4, but I think this makes the oilers better, we might actually ice 6 NHL Dmen for the first time in a long time.

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

Emelin is by far the more effective player. In Metrics and playstyle, stats and whatever else.

That's why three different NHL teams have seen fit to play Russell more per game than Emelin, amirite?

 

[BigRangy]

Nope, he's a #6/#7. Nowhere close to a #4.

He gets the ice-time of a #4 wherever he goes. Coaches love him.

Is he good as a #4? I don't think so, but he can definitely play top 4 minutes unlike a lot of bottom pairing defensemen.

He improves the Oilers blueline and lets them stash their prospects away for another year.

3.1 mil doesn't make sense to me though.

 

[Mentallydull]

That's why three different NHL teams have seen fit to play Russell more per game than Emelin, amirite?

But... the stats! (except for GP, G, A, +/-, Blocks, and SOG)

 

[Seachd]

"#4 D man"

http://public.tableau.com/shared/WYSKPS9G5?:display_count=yes

His shot suppression is so low that it's not even on the chart.

Like I said, not even CLOSE to a #4, raise your standards.

That's great proof.

 

[Treb]

That's why three different NHL teams have seen fit to play Russell more per game than Emelin, amirite?

So Russell is better than Hedman, Muzzin and Klingberg, amirite?

 

[Mentallydull]

He gets the ice-time of a #4 wherever he goes. Coaches love him.

Is he good as a #4? I don't think so, but he can definitely play top 4 minutes unlike a lot of bottom pairing defensemen.

He improves the Oilers blueline and lets them stash their prospects away for another year.

3.1 mil doesn't make sense to me though.

If it were for longer than 1 year I'd agree but, at this point, the Oilers have a lot of d-men that could use more seasoning down in the AHL/ECHL or wherever.

Bringing in Russell to play on our bottom-pairing with a rookie could be a decent sheltering experience and we wouldn't be using the cap hit otherwise. Worst case scenario, he doesn't pan out and we have that cap space back next year.

In terms of moving Yak, I don't think it was just to pick up Russell, I think it was just time to move on combined with us having far too many RW's pushing for a spot on this team. Yak was looking at, BEST case scenario, some 3rd line minutes. Worst case scenario, he was going to be a healthy scratch or back down in the AHL.

Eberle
Draisaitl
Puljujarvi
Pitlick
Kassian
Pakarinen
Hendricks (after his return)
Versteeg (if signed)
Slepyshev

Yakupov

 

[Blitzago*]

"#4 D man"

http://public.tableau.com/shared/WYSKPS9G5?:display_count=yes

His shot suppression is so low that it's not even on the chart.

Like I said, not even CLOSE to a #4, raise your standards.

And Rielly's shot suppression isn't even top 6, how's that for a #1 D man supposedly.

And since Hero Charts are the only thing.

Klefbom is 10x the D man Rielly is.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

I think you'll find that Russell isn't exactly an "NHL dman".

making certain posts can indicate we arent exactly nhl fans... some of us should spend more time in the minor leagues before exposing our screwups on the big stage

but what you meant to say, is if a team is playing russell 20 mins a night in important game situations, the team will want an upgrade

russell was forced into a top4 role in calgary due to lack of depth... he exceeded expectations and became a fan favorite, but realistically he was in over his head.

in dallas he proved his limitations again

russell wanted to be paid like a 20 min established top 4 dman... but all 30 teams felt that was too much

eventually he was paid like a low level top 4 dman. most teams have a better 4th dman. edmonton will hope nurse develops into a better top 4 dman too

russell is signed to try to get into playoffs this year... hes an improvement over fayne. the team felt he will contribute more than yakupov

 

[kurtcobang]

What's so bad about Russell? Thought this guys was a Top 4 D just a few months ago?

Oilers right? Automatically make player x trash according to HFBoards

 

[KGL]

That's great proof.

Good comeback. Enjoy him, I'm sure he'll help Edmonton's stellar defence big time! He's terrible, you'll learn that eventually.

I'm just glad he didn't end up on my team.

 

[Seachd]

He has never played RD for anything more than spot minutes with injuries. In Junior, Schlemko played right side while he played left. In St. Louis he was partnered with Polak who plays RD. In Calgary he has been paired with wideman (RD}, Brodie (RD), and Hamilton (RD). In Dallas he was paired with Demers (RD).

He is factually, a Left Shot Left Side Defenseman.

Obviously not so much after junior, but he's certainly not new to it, and let's just say he's comfortable with the idea.

 

[perronist]

as a flames fan, i love everything about this. the only thing that worries me is the term... 1 year is the same term as wideman and engelland have left... i really hope bt stays away next summer

 

[Blitzago*]

Good comeback. Enjoy him, I'm sure he'll help Edmonton's stellar defence big time! He's terrible, you'll learn that eventually.

I'm just glad he didn't end up on my team.

Didn't you guys just get dominated by montreal?

Shouldn't you by trying to fix your Defense too?