Confirmed with Link: Kreider extended 7 years, AAV approximately $6.5MM

[eco's bones]

To be honest I'm pleased that Kreider stays. He's an important player on and off the ice for us. I'd rather have had it as a 5 year deal---would have been alright with 6 but 7 is pushing it. Still the ways things have gone 7 years from now the cap is somewhere between $12 and $20 million higher. This coming season is where the cap is an issue and after that not all that much. We've got the buyouts and retained salaries--we've got the Smith, Staal and Lundqvist deals in their last year. Most of our players are ELC and second contract guys. Of the RFA's DeAngelo and Strome will be for real money. We can play hardball with Lemieux and Georgiev and DiGiuseppe will take the minimum.

Ridiculous to say that the rebuild is over. We have tons of prospects and we're the youngest team in the league. If we're not still in rebuild--who is? Late 1st rounder is a good pick but is no guarantee--a younger 3rd line player is very good too but combined they don't quite equal to value enough for Kreider. I'm thinking the Rangers weren't looking at offers they think were commensurate with his value.

There is also the point where 'the future' becomes 'the now'--at least if you're willing to jump off the lottery pick carousel. There was going to come a point sooner or later when the team was going to stop trading all their younger vets approaching unrestricted free agency and at least sometimes decide to keep them. The Rangers whether or not they make the playoffs this year have really started to gel. This team should be back in the playoff picture next year. Signing Kreider makes that more realizable and that's particularly a good thing for kids like Shesterkin, Kakko, Fox and Lindgren.

 

[Luger]

anyone knows anything on the NTC or NMC, partial or limited?

 

[NYR Viper]

I don't mind the cap hit. Hate the term.

 

[yada]

Im glad that kreider is back. While the length sucks the rangers will have a chance to move it when it gets bad. Krieder offers a unique skill set that is hard to find around the league, speed and ability to tip shots in and create a screen on the PP.

 

[KOVALEV022473]

They’ll regret this one. You overpay elite players. That next tier almost always become albatross deals. I’ll feel better if they trade Buch for a nice package.

Lmao! You think this is overpayment.

 

[yada]

Double post

 

[darko]

Have fun with this contract.

 

[darko]

Lmao! You think this is overpayment.

7 years is too long.

 

[True Blue]

The thing that people are also overlooking is that the cap hit was already largely absorbed by the salary structure that is already in place. So for a relatively minimal increase, the Rangers locked up a first line wing to a below market level contract.

I do not like the 7th year, but when we were discussing this last week, I said that I would sign on for a 6x$6.5 and a full NTC. The extra year is not loved but there is not a full on NTC.

 

[KOVALEV022473]

Everyone said it, and even in the aftermath no one has changed from that story.

Typical circular reporting.

 

[KOVALEV022473]

7 years is too long.

Perhaps, but the amount is a discount. What do you think he would garner if he hit FA?

 

[ElLeetch]

Islanders give up assets and sign a 3C for $5m and HF mainboard loves it. Rangers sign their home-grown 1LW for $6.5M and its the worst contract in the world.

gotta love it.

 

[pld459666]

What’s that saying about history and being forced to repeat it?

Objectively horrible decision to extend a 29 year old whose game is predicated on speed to age 36 at that AAV.

Never change NYR.

I dont necessarily agree that his game is predicated on speed, more along the lines of being able to retain the puck along the walls and being a beast in front of the nets which doesn't require him to be a speed demon.

Dont get me wrong, when he gets a head of steam, hes difficult to stop, but if he loses a step, hes still an average skater when compared to the rest of the league meaning he will still be able to keep pace.

I'm not a fan of 7 years, but I think we have 5 good (average Kreider type production) years ahead.

 

[True Blue]

I'm not a fan of 7 years, but I think we have 5 good (average Kreider type production) years ahead.

Plus the intangible of his leadership and exactly what he means to the fabric of the locker room.

 

[Allan92]

This deal looks better after the Skjei trade

Couple of thoughts:

- I'm happy we kept Kreider. He has good years left although I fear he'll become more injury prone in his 30's, given his style of play

- More importantly, the team is happy we kept him. Playoffs being in reach is cool and all, but frankly, stockpiling prospects that become good nhl'ers and thus, becomes a good team only works in EA. No one seems to like hearing it but culture matters. Bottoming out didn't work for Buffalo, Edmonton, Arizona, Florida etc. It wouldn't fly here, in this market, with this pressure. Young players would crack without guys like Kreider to insulate them and lead them. Even Toronto traded all their vets. Anything can happen I know, but this time next year Toronto may not be any closer to a cup than they were this time last year. The kind of message trading Kreider sends is not the message any team should want

- The term is not ideal but even if we didn't give it, the next man up will be looking for the same thing. What are we gonna do, not give any guy over 27 more than 5 years? In this era, that isn't going to fly with good players. And it's only going to keep going that way as players look around other leagues and see player power

- Skjei trade was a good compromise and response to keeping Kreider. We still get that extra prospect, we clear cap (hopefully to sign DeAngelo) and we're almost guaranteed a lottery pick as both Carolina and the Rangers are unlikely to make the playoffs together. We may even get two if both teams miss

- Shesty out for a couple of weeks sucks. But Hank will be motivated now. We could be in for a goodbye tour to remember

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

The extra year is not loved but there is not a full on NTC.

Is this confirmed or do you know something we don't?

 

[True Blue]

Is this confirmed or do you know something we don't?

Just rumors that I am seeing. I have no concrete proof and am not an insider

 

[JC704]

The contract is fine. One year too much, but the salary cap hit is good.

Kreider is a part of the solution.

 

[kovazub94]

To be honest I'm pleased that Kreider stays. He's an important player on and off the ice for us. I'd rather have had it as a 5 year deal---would have been alright with 6 but 7 is pushing it. Still the ways things have gone 7 years from now the cap is somewhere between $12 and $20 million higher. This coming season is where the cap is an issue and after that not all that much. We've got the buyouts and retained salaries--we've got the Smith, Staal and Lundqvist deals in their last year. Most of our players are ELC and second contract guys. Of the RFA's DeAngelo and Strome will be for real money. We can play hardball with Lemieux and Georgiev and DiGiuseppe will take the minimum.

Ridiculous to say that the rebuild is over. We have tons of prospects and we're the youngest team in the league. If we're not still in rebuild--who is? Late 1st rounder is a good pick but is no guarantee--a younger 3rd line player is very good too but combined they don't quite equal to value enough for Kreider. I'm thinking the Rangers weren't looking at offers they think were commensurate with his value.

There is also the point where 'the future' becomes 'the now'--at least if you're willing to jump off the lottery pick carousel. There was going to come a point sooner or later when the team was going to stop trading all their younger vets approaching unrestricted free agency and at least sometimes decide to keep them. The Rangers whether or not they make the playoffs this year have really started to gel. This team should be back in the playoff picture next year. Signing Kreider makes that more realizable and that's particularly a good thing for kids like Shesterkin, Kakko, Fox and Lindgren.

Agree with everything and there’s no reason to dwell on the risks right now after the fact and before these risks are close to become a reality.

I also wanted to make a similar hope that around 4-5 years into the contract I’m hopeful that the cap is significantly higher and $6.5 is closer to the middle-6 forward price range than to the current of a first liner.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

So...I've been reading a ton of negativity regarding this deal..and I'm certainly against it as I've made clear, however the over the top vitriol towards kreider and the complete obfuscation of who he is as a player is sickening.

This is arguably the best power forward in the league. A top 5 net front presence in the league. A top 5 fastest skater in the league. A key driving force in one of the top 10 lines in hockey right now (arguably). A guy whose getting paid a bit more than half of the guy we just signed as an u. F. A.

Make no mistake he left a ton of money on the table. I can bet you anything someone would have offered him 8m a year for 7 years EASILY.

This is a terrific deal right now. This is a terrific deal the next 3 years. What this is is a very dangerous deal in years 6 and 7.

THAT is why I'm against it. Chris kreider is a great player. He's not some middling player people can wish into existence with the snap of a finger. He's a top line winger on at least half the teams out there.

This is really well said. I'm happy he's still on the team; I like the team better with him on it. And the AAV is actually quite good for what he brings in the current market. The issue is years 5, and especially 6 and 7. Those terrify me, and are the reason why I'm not pleased with the deal.

Let's see what the contract structure looks like. If it's easy to buy out in the out years, I still won't love it, but I'll feel a lot better.

 

[Rempe73]

Love this signing after hearing what JD said about it. Too many rebuilding teams trade nearly every vet, and it never works. You need guidance. This is rebuilding the right way. And we may be one of the first teams to do it.

 

[eco's bones]

So...I've been reading a ton of negativity regarding this deal..and I'm certainly against it as I've made clear, however the over the top vitriol towards kreider and the complete obfuscation of who he is as a player is sickening.

This is arguably the best power forward in the league. A top 5 net front presence in the league. A top 5 fastest skater in the league. A key driving force in one of the top 10 lines in hockey right now (arguably). A guy whose getting paid a bit more than half of the guy we just signed as an u. F. A.

Make no mistake he left a ton of money on the table. I can bet you anything someone would have offered him 8m a year for 7 years EASILY.

This is a terrific deal right now. This is a terrific deal the next 3 years. What this is is a very dangerous deal in years 6 and 7.

THAT is why I'm against it. Chris kreider is a great player. He's not some middling player people can wish into existence with the snap of a finger. He's a top line winger on at least half the teams out there.

He probably left several million to stay here because this is where he's always been and this is where he wants to be and even as inconsistent as he's been at times---he is a committed athlete and generally the vibe I have is he's an overall good person and I like that he knows 5 languages (that shows intellectual curiosity) and that he talks to the Russian players in their own language. I think that is f***ing neat as hell. I've heard something somewhere that he's kind of been mentoring Kakko. We need vets who are happy to work with and help the kids grow. So if people are angry at him for re-signing with us I think that's kind of f***ed up.

 

[shello]

7 may have been too long but idk I'm happy we kept him. He's a solid player but now I just hope he doesn't disappear. Was pretty funny when he resigned and left practice a lot thought he was traded

 

[Kakko]

All in all, I'm pretty happy that the veteran leadership for our new blood is in their late 20s, not mid 30s

 

[Leonardo87]