Confirmed with Link: Kravtsov to Vancouver

[PuckLuck3043]

Too many posters in here thinking this trade reflects the player’s ability and talent level rather than the situation. He wouldn’t have been traded for a price like this if Kane wasn’t coming in, and he was only worth a price like this because of a much higher than normal chance he bolts back to Russia.

There were reports even before the Kane thing that nobody wanted him and his value was very low around the league.

 

[Cmox]

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[PuckLuck3043]

I'd bet a months pay that he outscores Kakko and Laffy next season.

Made that same bet with EdJo this season. I won.

 

[Rempe73]

What could be worse than trading Kravtsov? Getting a return like this.

Truly one of the saddest days ever.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Drury gets a lot of shit on this board but Gorton had 7th and 9th OA picks become Will Cuylee(who I like) and some guy I never heard of. Woof.

What could be worse than trading Kravtsov? Getting a return like this.

Truly one of the saddest days ever.

He had zero value. Nobody wanted him including Chicago. Between his lack of production and his flight risk to Russia his value was in the toilet around the league. When are people going to understand this?

 

[nyrage]

I know that many are disappointed about the return, but you're not factoring in the benefit of not having to accidentally read one of Jovo's nonsense Kratsov takes again. Priceless.

 

[Kords]

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Kinda vibing to track 1, lmao. Sounds like The Smiths with a cold war twist.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

Who in God's f***ing forsaken ass name is f***ing William Lockwood !!!?!?!?!?!

This trade is a f***ing joke.

 

[Cmox]

Kinda vibing to track 1, lmao. Sounds like The Smiths with a cold war twist.

A lot of these volumes are really good, haha.

 

[will1066]

Who in God's f***ing forsaken ass name is f***ing William Lockwood !!!?!?!?!?!

This trade is a f***ing joke.

William Lockwood was a legendary saloon owner and gunslinger in Billings, Montana, in 1845

 

[inranger94]

I blame all of this on Craig Mckegg.

 

[Daves a mess]

I’m confused is this a return for a former top-10 pick with untapped potential or a bust with fleeing back to Russia risk?

Exactly

 

[Rempe73]

He had zero value.

Not all on him

 

[Deleted member 23124]

Lmao goes to show how well Krav is viewed around the league. Might as well have been future considerations.

That would have been a better return than what we got.

 

[BBKers]

THIZ IZ PURE SHIT, BUT IT SI DUN

 

[Matt Rentfree]

That would have been a better return than what we got.

No love for diet Tyler Motte?

 

[JCProdigy]

Go on.

Just even looking at the Stanley Cup winning franchises.

Blackhawks before their 3 cups:
Kyle Beach (11OA). We know how that began and ended
Jack Skille (7 OA). Bust, traded for Hugh Jessiman!
Bonus! Cam Barker (3OA) although they traded him for Nick Leddy (who won a SC).

Bruins before their 2011 SC:
Zach Hamill (8OA), traded for Chris Bourque AKA nothing.
Bonus! Best team in the league now. Can we mention the three successive picks in the 2015 draft?
Jakub Zboril, Jake Debrusk, and Zach Senyshyn (13-15OA) with Matt Barzal and Kyle Connor chosen with the next two picks.

Kings before their 2 cups:
Derek Forbert (15OA), traded for 4th rd pick
Thomas Hickey (4OA), waived, got nothing for him.
Jonathan Berniers (11OA)
Lauri Tukonen (11OA)

Pens before their 2 cups:
Derrick Pouloit (8OA), traded for 4th rd pick

Caps before their Cup:
For the lulz. Made a good draft pick in Filip Forsberg at (11OA) and then traded him for Martin Erat so essentially gave him away. doh.

Lightning before their 2 Cups:
Brett Conolly (6OA), traded for two 2nd rounders that became nothing
Callan Foote (14OA), 3rd pairing D just hanging on.
Slater Koekkoek (10OA) traded for 7th rounder and Jan Rutta

Fact is, picks in that range fail all the time and sometimes bring back nothing to really help even the best run organization (not saying that includes NYR). For the Rangers, we'll see with 2nd round pick Cuylle with Andersson.

Big thing with almost all those teams above is they got multi top five picks that played big roles and/or hit on a couple later picks like the Rangers have with Chytil and Miller. As I've said before, again and again. It comes back to Laf and Kakko. Those guys need to have the effect of "1st line" players or this franchise isn't winning much of anything.

 

[orcatown]

Follow the Canuck farm team and seen lots of Lockwood. He is an exceptionally good skater. Said on other threads that he can negate as well as anyone a 2 on 1 against with his speed. He is a persistent forechecker and creates chances with it. Likes to hit and goes out of his way to complete checks. At one point was checking foreward on the US Junior National team and had a decent college career at Michigan. He deserved the call up he got this season and had a good game when he played the Rangers (maybe one reason Rangers liked him)

Problem is that his hitting often resulted in injury. Has a concussion history and you have to ask yourself why he seeks out so much contact. Also, it looks like he might score but just doesn't. Did better in that area this year on the farm team but nothing during his call up. Just couldn't seem to get to the net.

Might be the Rangers get a good game or two out of him if they have injuries and he gets into some playoff action. And maybe the Rangers can get something more out of him than the Canucks did. His skating ability has always be appealing. More likely he gets banged up and spends time on the injury list. However, he is not totally a write off and has some bottom line potential.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

THIZ IZ PURE SHIT, BUT IT SI DUN

I feel like this description applies to Kravtsov as well.

 

[JohnC]

It’s early, but Kravstov may go down as the most controversial 10 point player of the 2020s for the Rangers.

 

[LOFIN]

I'm expecting to see Vancouver as the third party in a Kane deal. Or at least, I wan't to see the full Kane trade before crying about this return, because I don't think this was just a cap dump. I don't think so.

Kravtsov wasn't probably treated the best by the organization. But he didn't do himself any favours either. Chytil, Kakko, Laf... All of those high picks have bit the lip and stuck around. Chytil went to the AHL as well.

 

[ArPanet]

According to Duguay’s girlfriend you can see Russia from Alaska. Vancouver is not far from Alaska.

"On a clear day, it is possible to see the Russian territory from the Alaskan island."

Sarah Palin Revives Comment She Can 'See Russia' From Alaska

"Alaska is strategically located on the globe," the former governor and GOP congressional hopeful said.

www.newsweek.com

 

[bl02]

We wanted Hoglander we got this

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Not all on him

Regardless of how much blame is on him and the team he had no value across the league. That was reported before the Kane situation also. It is what it is.

 

[Raspewtin]

add this horseshit embarrassment of a saga to the list of “good reasons Gorton and JD were canned “

this whole ordeal was an organizational failure from top to bottom

Andersson and Kravtsov as back to back top 10 picks lol, how f***ing pathetic