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Confirmed with Link: Kravtsov to Vancouver

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Peltz said:
I agree. The Tarasenko trade could bite us in the ass if he doesn't play well. We gave up a ton for him.

But if you look at the average GM's tenure, it incentives them to shoot for the moon today rather than be patient for tomorrow. And this core is pretty much as good as it's going to get over the next few years. So they're shooting their shot until it becomes time to empty the cabinet again. It's a cyclical thing.

10 years from now, we'll be acquiring first round picks all over again.
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a late first and 2 ghosts are a ton?
 
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NickyFotiu said:
Going to be interesting to see Krav play for Tochet.
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LMAO. Somehow that hadn't occurred to me. I wish the kid well but man was he a head case. I feel like he got upset that Kakko and Laf passed him on the depth chart and felt like he was here first and that should have been his position. That said, I saw nothing about him that I liked. He's not strong. He seemed like always lost puck battles. Not good enough at what he supposedly brought to the table to overcome the things he didn't. I don't blame Gallant at all. The kid didn't deserve to knock anyone out of the lineup.
 
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SML2 said:
LMAO. Somehow that hadn't occurred to me. I wish the kid well but man was he a head case. I feel like he got upset that Kakko and Laf passed him on the depth chart and felt like he was here first and that should have been his position. That said, I saw nothing about him that I liked. He's not strong. He seemed like always lost puck battles. Not good enough at what he supposedly brought to the table to overcome the things he didn't. I don't blame Gallant at all. The kid didn't deserve to knock anyone out of the lineup.
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IMO, he was an entitled brat that wanted a top 6 spot handed to him. Maybe a change of scenery will wake him up to the realities of being a professional at the NHL level, maybe it won't. My money is on the latter, but stranger things have happened.
 
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I'll be curious to see if he gets a real shot in Vancouver and what he does with it if he gets it. Given all his dramatics, I can't really blame the team for moving on but we've been getting roasted over the past several years at this point giving away guys who no matter how good or bad they are here, improve elsewhere: JT Miller, Pionk, Zuccarello, Skjei, Buchnevich, Georgiev, Barron, Howden, Ryan Graves, even Marc Staal was better after he left... I guess it just happens, but damn, can somebody just leave here and continue sucking elsewhere for once?
 
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Is it possible that Vancouver will retain 25% of Kane's contract as part of this deal? In other words, they'll take on that cap hit for future considerations, having already gotten paid for it with this deal.
 
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NickyFotiu said:
Going to be interesting to see Krav play for Tochet.
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Talk about tough love.. better finish some checks or score a lot of goals..it will be the best thing for him.. 1st = now 7th wow..

Kupo said:
Who the f*** is William Lockwood….?
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The same could be said for Kravy.. I would be really careful if I were him.. or he will be trading in his hockey stick for a deadman’s AK47 from the 80s!!
 
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GAGLine said:
Is it possible that Vancouver will retain 25% of Kane's contract as part of this deal? In other words, they'll take on that cap hit for future considerations, having already gotten paid for it with this deal.
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That's what some have speculated
 
This is why Tarasenko was brought in sooner than the TDL.

I can only imagine this place if this happened in March instead of February.

Let the guy get acclimated.
 
Welp, time for this lurker to change his name.

My last name was about JT Miller :help::help: Who does everyone want the Rangers to trade for peanuts next?
 
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SML2 said:
LMAO. Somehow that hadn't occurred to me. I wish the kid well but man was he a head case. I feel like he got upset that Kakko and Laf passed him on the depth chart and felt like he was here first and that should have been his position. That said, I saw nothing about him that I liked. He's not strong. He seemed like always lost puck battles. Not good enough at what he supposedly brought to the table to overcome the things he didn't. I don't blame Gallant at all. The kid didn't deserve to knock anyone out of the lineup.
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I think he handled things poorly here. I wish he would have went down to the AHL. I wanted him to succeed here. If he went to the AHL he could have helped himself and our team. Oh well. Can;t win them all. I wonder how he will do under Tochet. GG is probably much nicer but maybe Krav will respond to a nastier coach.
 
TheDirtyH said:
I'll be curious to see if he gets a real shot in Vancouver and what he does with it if he gets it. Given all his dramatics, I can't really blame the team for moving on but we've been getting roasted over the past several years at this point giving away guys who no matter how good or bad they are here, improve elsewhere: JT Miller, Pionk, Zuccarello, Skjei, Buchnevich, Georgiev, Barron, Howden, Ryan Graves, even Marc Staal was better after he left... I guess it just happens, but damn, can somebody just leave here and continue sucking elsewhere for once?
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Skjei isn't really any better from when he left here, Barron is a dime a dozen decent bottom sixer, Howden nothing special, and Staal was never that bad to begin with, just not the same from almost a decade ago after injuries and the game got faster.
 
It's just a kick in the balls to the fan base that another first rounder wasted. There's no one to fire or demote because Clark, Gorton, Bobrov are all already gone. The only thing to do is be better in the future.

As the earlier poster said, Gorton and JD fired the more that comes out, there was a lot of instability and bad evaluation behind the scenes. Gorton had some really bad drafts from 2015-2017 and parts of 2018.

Othmann might be a little arrogant and crazy, but if he can handle NY and adversity, who cares.

It is essential this team gets a sports psychologist to help evaluate picks, NCAA UFAs, and potential trade or offseason UFA targets. Stromwall, Kovacs, Gropp, Zborovsky, Day, Andersson, Kravstov all headcases.
 
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TheDirtyH said:
I'll be curious to see if he gets a real shot in Vancouver and what he does with it if he gets it. Given all his dramatics, I can't really blame the team for moving on but we've been getting roasted over the past several years at this point giving away guys who no matter how good or bad they are here, improve elsewhere: JT Miller, Pionk, Zuccarello, Skjei, Buchnevich, Georgiev, Barron, Howden, Ryan Graves, even Marc Staal was better after he left... I guess it just happens, but damn, can somebody just leave here and continue sucking elsewhere for once?
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There are 4 guys on your list I never wanted to trade and would like back. Problem is to have all of them or any of them you have to be willing to give up comparable salaries on our team. And I'm not talking the messageboard nonsense that six $1 mill guys equals one $6 mill guy. I mean if we take on a $6 mill guy we have to make room by moving a $6 mill guy that we currently have.
 
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GAGLine said:
Is it possible that Vancouver will retain 25% of Kane's contract as part of this deal? In other words, they'll take on that cap hit for future considerations, having already gotten paid for it with this deal.
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Possible. For perspective in valuing the trade if that were to happen 25% retention on Kane at $165k cash for the retaining team would historically cost a 5th round pick going from the Rangers to Vancouver.
 
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Yikes, I just figured the draft pick was this for this year, not 3 years down the track.
Poor guy really did have 0 value.

Hopefully for his sake he gets a shot in Vamcouver but you have to imagine he's not sticking around unless everything goes very, very well
 
mouser said:
Possible. For perspective in valuing the trade if that were to happen 25% retention on Kane at $165k cash for the retaining team would historically cost a 5th round pick going from the Rangers to Vancouver.
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Which may explain why the Rangers only took a 7th & a scrub back for Kravtsov....Rangers might be paying the Canucks their future considerations in advance for the salary retention.
 
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TheDirtyH said:
I'll be curious to see if he gets a real shot in Vancouver and what he does with it if he gets it. Given all his dramatics, I can't really blame the team for moving on but we've been getting roasted over the past several years at this point giving away guys who no matter how good or bad they are here, improve elsewhere: JT Miller, Pionk, Zuccarello, Skjei, Buchnevich, Georgiev, Barron, Howden, Ryan Graves, even Marc Staal was better after he left... I guess it just happens, but damn, can somebody just leave here and continue sucking elsewhere for once?
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Or can somebody that comes here not suck for once...
 
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