Confirmed with Link: Kravtsov requests trade
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Amazing Kreiderman
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The problem isn't him being sent down, but more that it's another in a long line of decisions that rubbed Kravtsov the wrong way. Right or wrong, we cannot deny that it's pretty disappointing that our current regime has put themselves in this situation and have not learned from the past.
haohmaru
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Your math is as bad as your reading comprehension.
"he needed to be one of the top 6 best wingers"
Gee, that would imply that he could've played on the 3rd line. Hrm.
He wasn't good enough in camp and doesn't have an NHL resume to rely on. He should've sucked it up, played in the AHL, and waited for an opportunity that would surely come.
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The Pens are known for getting the best out of their players. If he’s lackadaisical in his work habits as well as needing an attitude adjustment (something that’s very apparent) then I don’t see a good fit there. For whatever people think of someone like Crosby he is a serious professional who works his f***ing ass off game in and game out and in the off season the same. There’s no bullshit about that and the rest of his team look up to him as inspiration.
Hayton , Rousell for Kravtsov, Hajek
gotta get more grit lol
i do think Georgiev fits in AZ but Hutton is a meh back up
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It sucks. I get it.
In the bigger picture the Rangers killed it in all of the ‘18, ‘19 and ‘20 drafts so the cupboard is hardly empty and not all prospects are going to work out but a lot of guys from these drafts should be productive NHL players. We’re moving on here from one of the more high profile of them and it’s unfortunate and it’s not that the talent isn’t there but the entitled mindset of the player is not a good thing for our team to be moving forward with so good riddance in that regard. If that doesn’t change I don’t think Kravtsov is going to have a great career anyway.
Brendan Lemieux’s problem was that Brendan Lemieux f***ing sucked
I wouldn’t mind this move. I guess it depends if they see Hayton as an eventual player.
Yotes fans said he looked more focused and ready in camp/preseason before sustaining his injury.
If they do manage to get him, I’d expect at least 1/2 probably a full year in Hartford.
He’s currently wouldn’t unseat Zibby/Chytil/Barron in the top 3 spot.
Wouldn’t be the worst thing for him and Pajuneimi to get heavy 1st line minutes together in the A.
Both Hayton and Kravtsov have lowered their stock size draft day.
I would rather Poulin if he’s an option from Pitt. He can play all 3 fwd positions and has recently looked the best at Center. He’s another guy that’s at least a year away development wise though
It is easy to pin everything on a player. I'd be more comfortable with the narrative if the Rangers didn't go in a full damage control mode. Whatever happened, here is my take on it:
a) we could have used Krav in the lineup;
b) the organization could have managed this better.
You don't like the kid? It's ok. Showcase him, and trade him when he has value. He is talented, and frankly I am not buying the lazy narrative. He didn't look lazy last year. What did this debacle accomplish? Nothing.
a) we could have used Krav in the lineup;
b) the organization could have managed this better.
You don't like the kid? It's ok. Showcase him, and trade him when he has value. He is talented, and frankly I am not buying the lazy narrative. He didn't look lazy last year. What did this debacle accomplish? Nothing.
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I'd avoid trading Kravtsov to a divisional rival like the plague. Prima donna or not, he's still an extremely talented prospect, and I'd much rather not risk handing a first liner to a team we'll have to consistently beat if we're going to make runs at the cup over the next several years.
I was full of optimism last year, but looking at our current line-up - I don't expect any cup runs any time soon.
Synergy27
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If Kravtsov gets traded to the Penguins we will regret it for years. I don’t think Kravtsov is nearly as dynamic as Kovalev (my favorite player of all time) but this situation smells a whole lot like that one.
I am still holding out hope that this is a tough love wake up call and that they can reconcile things with the kid. That’s not sounding likely though, so a trade out west for a similar center prospect is for sure my preference.
I am still holding out hope that this is a tough love wake up call and that they can reconcile things with the kid. That’s not sounding likely though, so a trade out west for a similar center prospect is for sure my preference.
Yea believe me, watching highlights of Kovalev in a pens jersey still makes me sick.
Kravy is a good prospect, but don’t think he’s at that, or will be at that kovy level. It all depends on the return. They’d probably like to send him west, but if Poulin were dangled, he can make us better.
They run the same risk of getting burnt. But at least this way, they have a nhl ready player now instead of waiting a year or 2 for Poulin and Crosby/Malkin/Letang are that much older
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Miamipuck
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I have been watching hockey since 1978 and playing since the mid 80's. I have only seen a handful of players that can match or exceed Kovalev in talent, and Kravtsov ain't one of those. In fact, he isn't even close.
Trade him for the best return possible. Given how he handles adversity, I am not worried about the blowback.
Edit: I can't quote at the moment......
Trade him for the best return possible. Given how he handles adversity, I am not worried about the blowback.
Edit: I can't quote at the moment......
TheGortonConspiracy
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Kravtsov for Hayton is not going to happen. That's a downgrade for Arizona and Kravtsov is a more risky asset given this situation. Double no from Arizona.
If Kravtsov does get traded soon it will probably be for draft picks. He is too high risk to trade for anything but draft picks.
What a waste, this kid had so much hype, people were saying he was going to be better than Kakko a couple years ago.
If Kravtsov does get traded soon it will probably be for draft picks. He is too high risk to trade for anything but draft picks.
What a waste, this kid had so much hype, people were saying he was going to be better than Kakko a couple years ago.
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I was watching a high-end girls soccer game last night. Not the quality of the top national clubs that compete in the Winter, Spring and Summer, but a lot of club girls dominate the better high school games in the Fall. Anyway, I got to talking to the younger fathers from the other team and they honestly believe that the girls are tougher than the boys. I told them they were crazy. "Your daughter is tougher than most of the boys on our squad." Yikes.
Something's happening and I don't know what it is. But it's got something to do with this Ranger fiasco of Kravtsov/Andersson/DeAngelo immaturity. Apparently, according to fathers in their forties, it's some type of systemic dilemma attributed to a pandemic type deficiency of some kind. Yikes. I hope not.
Something's happening and I don't know what it is. But it's got something to do with this Ranger fiasco of Kravtsov/Andersson/DeAngelo immaturity. Apparently, according to fathers in their forties, it's some type of systemic dilemma attributed to a pandemic type deficiency of some kind. Yikes. I hope not.
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Not sure the relevance here but I'll bite. I've coached and reffed both girls and boys 8-13 (reffed up to 15). And still follow the club circuits closely because my son is there at age 15 and I have former players (mostly girls) who play at very high levels. I also think the girls are tougher.
They take a brutal collision and pop back up. The boys roll around for 10 minutes. Part of it is a "game culture" thing where the boys think they're expected to sell everything and treat a tiny elbow as if they were shot. I think the girls are also nastier. Ponytail pulling is something I had to card young girls for all the time. The boys push and shove but the girls can be really, really aggressive.It's all a generalization as there are plenty of guys who are absolutely tough and nails and plenty of girls who will lay and cry. As I said, I think it's more to do with the culture of the sports; you watch men and selling fouls is an art. I played my whole life and think that's some p***y shit. The women don't do it hardly at all. They bounce right back, or don't even go down. Accordingly, the boys and girls act like what they see top tier players modeling.
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I really don't get the hate for Hunt.
Over the first two games, he's near the top of the league in tilting the ice for his team. And as you can see above, that's no anomaly.
He's nasty af AND effective.
If we don't like Dryden Hunt, I think we've reached the point where the expectation for 4th liners just isn't realistic.
there is 100% an agenda against/targeting young boys in society. There’s plenty of facts and evidence to support it, but that’s a whole long different discussion.
Men, or men as we grew up knowing and watching them, are indeed becoming and endangered species.
Here’s to yesterday in that regard imo.
But as far as your convo, soccer isn’t exactly the sport that you find the manliest of men to begin with.
I’m not making fun or anything like that and I’m not talking up to 12 years old or so. Every kid plays everything to a point, but when high school roles around, the more aggressive physical sports are the ones that usually attract the rough and tumble kids.
It’s where you see a big shift in kids that play football, basketball, wrestling, hockey ( if parents can afford it. My mom couldn’t) etc as opposed to soccer, track, swimming and sports of that nature.
I would say, overall even in the physical sports that the boys are more tame the even in the early 2000s.”
The stuff like sports/movies/tv etc was far more edge and brutal in the 80s/90s/ early 2000s then what kids watch now
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TheGortonConspiracy
Wow its a nice GM
Is the situation workable? I was thinking he's done in NY but others have got me thinking maybe can play for NYR one day... when the spot is available
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