Confirmed with Link: Kravtsov requests trade

[EdJovanovski]

"If he did so, he'd be back up quickly"

If this was truly explained to him, then I guess it IS all on him.

Very disappointing either way.

I highly doubt it

 

[bigdog16]

Okay. EdJo alternates making me laugh with intentional and unintentional comedy.
I found that pizza post pretty funny.
And then I picture you monitoring Krav’s heartrate after a shift by some arcane means. Haha. I mean come on, how do you know how elevated his pulse is after a shift. Hahaha.
It sounds like a totally reasonable ask to work on conditioning after an injury. And even if the underlying reason was to not have to waive someone while you seek a deal, that’s REASONABLE too. It’s a team sport and part of being an NHLer is being a good team player.

Haha Edjo pissed me off when I first started reading his shtick. But after a while it gets pretty funny. The pizza comment was a good one.

Go to the main board and watch posters lose their minds trying to argue with him though. Its comical

 

[Edge]

Kravtsov deserves all the blame he gets for his attitude and his behavior.

The Rangers deserve all the blame they get for poorly managing the situation and putting themselves in this situation, again...and again...and again.

The phrase "no one wins in this situation" should not be something we have to roll with every 9 months or so.

 

[Crease]

I highly doubt it

We know.

 

[Rangerboy030]

Kravtsov deserves all the blame he gets for his attitude and his behavior.

The Rangers deserve all the blame they get for poorly managing the situation and putting themselves in this situation, again...and again...and again.

The phrase "no one wins in this situation" should not be something we have to roll with every 9 months or so.

I really don't know how telling Kravtsov "you got injured, so we want you to spend a short conditioning stint in the AHL while you recover and we'll bring you back once you're good to go" can be construed as "poorly managing the situation".

 

[DanielBrassard]

More evidence that the kid has an entitlement issue. That's on him and nobody else.

The Rangers knowing he has an entitlement issue and not being prepared for him to throw a tantrum, that's on them.

Well this sums it up nicely.

 

[Richard Banger]

Lias said it in a Swedish interview(again this was months ago so if I’m remembering it incorrectly i’ll admit i’m wrong), so i tend to believe stuff like that from the players themselves more than a beat reporter who is known to BS for clicks. That’s all.

Players lie their asses off all the time. I never take a players word for shit.

 

[Richard Banger]

I highly doubt it

Of course you do because it doesn’t fit the narrative your pushing lol.

 

[TheBPA]

maybe they are trying to teach him a lesson? Especially if they cant find a good trade.

 

[Edge]

I really don't know how telling Kravtsov "you got injured, so we want you to spend a short conditioning stint in the AHL while you recover and we'll bring you back once you're good to go" can be construed as "poorly managing the situation".

Putting yourself in situations with volatile personalities, where this is a distinct possibility, is not good management.

Kravtsov's reaction is poor. But it is also predictable based on his past behavior.

Knowing the struggles you have to this point, you do one of two things.

You either move on, so that it's a non-factor.

Or you accept it for the combustible element it is and you proceed accordingly.

Waiting for the situation to fulfill its high-probability of combusting, after you've already already had explosions with this player (and two others), is not a prudent move.

Again, NONE of this is uncharted territory.

 

[Mandar]

Putting yourself in situations with volatile personalities, where this is a distinct possibility, is not good management.

Kravtsov's reaction is poor. But it is also predictable based on his past behavior.

Knowing the struggles you have to this point, you do one of two things.

You either move on, so that it's a non-factor.

Or you accept it for the combustible element it is and you proceed accordingly.

Waiting for the situation to fulfill its high-probability of combusting, after you've already already had explosions with this player (and two others), is not a prudent move.

Again, NONE of this is uncharted territory.

are you hearing any talk of a possible move?

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

Putting yourself in situations with volatile personalities, where this is a distinct possibility, is not good management.

Kravtsov's reaction is poor. But it is also predictable based on his past behavior.

Knowing the struggles you have to this point, you do one of two things.

You either move on, so that it's a non-factor.

Or you accept it for the combustible element it is and you proceed accordingly.

Waiting for the situation to fulfill its high-probability of combusting, after you've already already had explosions with this player (and two others), is not a prudent move.

Again, NONE of this is uncharted territory.

Outside of trading him this summer, I'm not sure what they were supposed to do when camp ended. Whether he was ready for top 6 minutes or not is debatable, but apparently Gallant and Drury felt he wasn't. Do you keep him around just to appease him? Do you play him against your better judgement? Would playing on the third line have been enough for him? I don't know, do you hope the kid matured a bit?

As an aside, these young players today are just a different breed. I was told a few years ago that when Laine was still with Winnipeg management was concerned about his video game habit (could be something else, not sure if I remember that part correctly) and they wanted to address it with him. But they could not talk to him directly, they had to go through his agent. The coach and GM were not allowed to speak to him. I have no idea if Kravtsov is like this or not, but it's a crazy new world these days.

 

[Edge]

are you hearing any talk of a possible move?

Only rumors of teams that have expressed interest in the past. All western teams at this point.

 

[Edge]

Outside of trading him this summer, I'm not sure what they were supposed to do when camp ended. Whether he was ready for top 6 minutes or not is debatable, but apparently Gallant and Drury felt he wasn't. Do you keep him around just to appease him? Do you play him against your better judgement? Would playing on the third line have been enough for him? I don't know, do you hope the kid matured a bit?

As an aside, these young players today are just a different breed. I was told a few years ago that when Laine was still with Winnipeg management was concerned about his video game habit (could be something else, not sure if I remember that part correctly) and they wanted to address it with him. But they could not talk to him directly, they had to go through his agent. The coach and GM were not allowed to speak to him. I have no idea if Kravtsov is like this or not, but it's a crazy new world these days.

Well the first line is a very real option when you have a player who already balked at playing in Hartford and had a tense meeting about his conditioning to end last season. Then you factor in that they weren't thrilled with the work he was putting in over the summer (because they were keeping tabs).

So at that point, you're really starting to play with fire if the expectation is for him to make the club or be happy/accepting or anything else. That's an easy problem to see coming.

So you make a judgement call, either you pursue the opportunities that existed to move the player, or you hang onto the player and accept all of the conditions that come with that gamble.

Once you accept the gamble, knowing all of the conditions we just described, you really can't just treat it as business as usual. And if that's how you plan to approach it, business as usual, you're probably asking for a pain in the ass situation.

Which is exactly what we now have on our hands.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Only rumors of teams that have expressed interest in the past. All western teams at this point.

Is there a possibility he ever plays for the Rangers/Hartford again? And is one of those Western teams Vancouver?

 

[Edge]

Is there a possibility he ever plays for the Rangers/Hartford again? And is one of those Western teams Vancouver?

I would be very surprised if he ever plays for them. And in the rare chance he does, he's toast here anyway. It would only be a short-term relationship.

But at this point we're probably well beyond three strikes and you're out for Kravtsov.

Yes, Vancouver is a team that is rumored to have interest.

 

[RangerBoy]

Putting yourself in situations with volatile personalities, where this is a distinct possibility, is not good management.

Kravtsov's reaction is poor. But it is also predictable based on his past behavior.

Knowing the struggles you have to this point, you do one of two things.

You either move on, so that it's a non-factor.

Or you accept it for the combustible element it is and you proceed accordingly.

Waiting for the situation to fulfill its high-probability of combusting, after you've already already had explosions with this player (and two others), is not a prudent move.

Again, NONE of this is uncharted territory.

The Rangers tried to move on. You said the Rangers talked to the Red Wings about Larkin. Kravtsov or Lundkvist and #1 pick for Larkin. I am sure Drury was more than willing to trade Kravtsov and the pick for Larkin.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Podkolzin for Kravstov E5

pls credit me when it happens

 

[Thirty One]

Podkolzin for Kravstov E5

pls credit me when it happens

Think Horvat makes more sense.

 

[New York RKY]

Think Horvat makes more sense.

Clearly a 1 for 1 swap with Quinn Hughes.

 

[eco's bones]

The Wings probably don’t want to move Larkin.

I really don’t see Kravtsov returning a useful roster player at this time. If the return is prospects or picks unless some team offers something commensurate right off to Vitali we have a lot of time to sort through offers and there is no rush. We do not owe him any favors as far as doing this quickly or sending him to a competitive team. It’s always best offer.

The bridge has been burned and he’s on the wrong side of it. I don’t see him ever playing another game for us.

 

[Trxjw]

i dont disagree.

im just trying to stay positive and hope for a bright side.

I think we'll be able to move him for a decent piece, which will be some consolation. The problem is that this is the 3rd time in a short period that the Rangers have had botched this sort of situation. Ranted a bit about it the other day, but this team has a real issue with player development and asset management.

 

[will1066]

Kravtsov deserves all the blame he gets for his attitude and his behavior.

The Rangers deserve all the blame they get for poorly managing the situation and putting themselves in this situation, again...and again...and again.

The phrase "no one wins in this situation" should not be something we have to roll with every 9 months or so.

Who's it going to be in 9 months, dare I ask?

 

[NYSPORTS]

Who's it going to be in 9 months, dare I ask?

Nils - not getting the ice time. Buried on the depth chart

 

[NYSPORTS]

Podkolzin for Kravstov E5

pls credit me when it happens

good luck