Confirmed with Link: Kravtsov requests trade

[AirGut]

Package him with Strome or something else and try and get a 2C upgrade or get creative and still go for Eichel

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Good opportunity to lead the league in Stromes

ALL YOUR STROMES ARE BELONG TO US.

 

[17futurecap]

Definitely a possibility. Not attending the bonding thing seemed strange. I wondered if there was more to it, but everything else I saw seemed to indicate they were still bullish on the kid and expecting him to be a part of things moving forward, so I kind of just let it go.

If you watch the highlights from the goals on Saturday, it’s pretty interesting watching them react to celebrate, the 4 goals the 5 guys get together fist bump, have a nice discussion, and then the Krav goal everyone barely gives him a fist bump on the ice.

It does seem strange that you wouldn’t make a team bonding trip if you had a minor injury, it’s not like the trainers and medical staff weren’t going to be on the trip with them practicing in Rhode Island.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

Glad we traded Pavel

 

[Blais to Win]

Surely you must admit there is something fishy about this happening with two players.

It was misjudgment by Gorton & Bobrov. They're both gone now. Seems like Bobrov was shooting the moon with his choices - Andersson and Kravtsov, to wit. Those types of picks are risky, with associated up and downside. One of their picks was Lundkvist, though, so the strategy wasn't all bad.

 

[JT Kreider]

Oliver Dobson checking in here to take his bow

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Yep definitely wondering that now. Definitely wondering if there was something going on behind the scenes that kept the Rangers from wanting to include him in that trip. It's weird.

I didnt understand it from the second they announced it.

Didn't smell right and none of beat writers had any insight into it (no surprise there), which to me was the story to be had that week

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

@Amazing Kreiderman can you talk to his dad or cousin twice removed or ex girlfriend and figure out what the hell is going on here?!?!

Kravtsov was never going to be a popular guy in the locker room, and has some social issues. He doesn't like fan interaction, he's pretty arrogant. But that was all fine as long as he could show what he has done on the ice.

This garbage situation was created by Drury, but Kravtsov f***ed it up to the point of no return. I can't even defend it if I wanted to. This wasn't a situation where team and player disagreed about medical treatment like with Lias. No, Kravtsov refusing to report to Hartford the day he is demoted is just bad.

 

[Thirty One]

I mean Chytil is the perfect example for guys like Andersson and Kravtsov. He played over a full season in the NHL and then was sent down out of camp. You think he liked it or thought it was fair? Of course not. But he took the assignment like a pro, played really well in Hartford, was back in a couple weeks, and hasn't looked back.

Why can't Kravtsov do that?

Hmm, that's an interesting thought. I guess playing well in the AHL is a good way to show you're too good for the AHL.

 

[Rangers in 7]

Kravtsov was never going to be a popular guy in the locker room, and has some social issues. He doesn't like fan interaction, he's pretty arrogant. But that was all fine as long as he could show what he has done on the ice.

This garbage situation was created by Drury, but Kravtsov f***ed it up to the point of no return. I can't even defend it if I wanted to. This wasn't a situation where team and player disagreed about medical treatment like with Lias. No, Kravtsov refusing to report to Hartford the day he is demoted is just bad.

sad part is i love the way he plays, but i agree its impossible to defend the situation

hopefully they can package him for a center

 

[Trxjw]

Not sure how you can really point the finger at overall scouting here. The Rangers opted for character/grit in 2017 over skill and it was the wrong choice. They did the opposite in 2018 and it's looking like the wrong choice. Things break a little differently and the "terrible scouting Rangers" take Nick Suzuki and Joel Farabee.

Where the team really seems to fall woefully short is asset management. They seem quite clueless about problem children in the org (Andersson, Kravtsov, DeAngel0) until the situation is untenable. They overplay their hand when it comes to trading (See: Georgiev, Alexandar; DeAngelo, Tony; Strome, Ryan). They prioritize mediocre assets like Hajek and Hunt. They're either overflowing with bottom-six options or they're scraping the bottom of the barrel. They gift chances to some kids and continually block others. They trade for players like Gauthier hoping they can mold them into something they aren't. None of it makes any sense.

Something is very, very wrong with that part of the process. At the very least, Kravstov throwing a fit about a Hartford assignment should've been known before even coming into the season. You dealt Buchnevich and gifted this kid his golden opportunity. You need a back-up plan if he doesn't seize it and you need to know what his reaction is going to be before you make the call. The Rangers made a misstep there and "we hoped he had matured beyond this" isn't an acceptable answer when you have so much invested in him. If you think there's even the slightest chance that he'd do something like this, you need to have trade options at the ready. Do I think this is going to drastically impact his trade value? Not really but it's a bad look for an organization who has now seen this happen twice with top-10 picks. Now Chris Drury is pinning his hopes on Sammy Blais and a prayer that he can make a good Kravtsov trade.

 

[Mike in Houston]

When a player gets an AHL assignment they can treat it like Buchnevich and Chytil or they can treat it like Andersson and Kravtsov.

 

[mas0764]

Entire scouting group needs to be evaluated and heads need to roll.

If nothing else, this.

Obviously Kravtsov needs to report and take a demotion like a man. There is still a big role for him in the org in the future if he would have accepted that.

But the organization has a problem too when it

a) allows itself to draft two players who have had the exact same issues in back to back years
b) does so by drafting over higher ranked consensus players (Mittlestadt in 2017, Wahlstrom/Farabee in 2018)
c) foolishly forgets its a rebuilding team and starts trying to shoehorn grit and toughness onto the roster instead of player development.

Changes need to happen and fast.

Let's not forget that while he seems to be passed it now, Kakko seems like he was blatantly misused and misdeveloped for two seasons as well.

 

[mas0764]

Honestly, at this point I'd rather try for futures. The next two drafts are supposed to be loaded. I'd try to get a late 1st or a 2nd and a B prospect for him rather than a prospect who looks to be fizzling out. If we got a 2nd for LA and a 2nd and a 6th for Sanguinetti, we should be able to get something like that or better for Kravtsov.

Alternatively, I like the idea of a Krav/Jones package for one of LA's center kids.

If you get a first in next year's draft or a center from LA or something I'll live with it.

But you know they are going to deal him for a late second like they did with Andersson or get some bottom 6 grinder again.

 

[DutchNYR]

When a player gets an AHL assignment they can treat it like Buchnevich and Chytil or you can treat it like Andersson and Kravtsov.

You're entirely right, but still f*ck this organisation for drafting two of those in the top 10. There's something structurally wrong.

 

[Dr. Ogrodnick]

Thank god we traded Buch to make room for Kravstov. Way to go Drury.

 

[DialUp]

A demotion that was unnecessary, because it only serves to keep Libor Hájek who isn't even AHL caliber, and Drury f***ed up trying to play the market.

Unless you have definitive insight, I am not sure that is the way it went down. Gallant sure made it seem like Kravtsov didn't make the team, he didn't even want him around. He would have been playing in Hartford based on whatever merit and metric the staff is using to evaluate the team, not so much to protect Hajek. Goat appears to have "earned" the right to be the 13f over VK.

 

[nyr2k2]

If nothing else, this.

Obviously Kravtsov needs to report and take a demotion like a man. There is still a big role for him in the org in the future if he would have accepted that.

But the organization has a problem too when it

a) allows itself to draft two players who have had the exact same issues in back to back years
b) does so by drafting over higher ranked consensus players (Mittlestadt in 2017, Wahlstrom/Farabee in 2018)
c) foolishly forgets its a rebuilding team and starts trying to shoehorn grit and toughness onto the roster instead of player development.

Changes need to happen and fast.

Let's not forget that while he seems to be passed it now, Kakko seems like he was blatantly misused and misdeveloped for two seasons as well.

Haven't a lot of the changes happened? There's been a fair bit of turnover underneath Drury.

 

[WojtekWolski86]

I didnt understand it from the second they announced it.

Didn't smell right and none of beat writers had any insight into it (no surprise there), which to me was the story to be had that week

My first impressions on Gallant in his mannerisms and body language during press conferences is he doesn't like interacting with the media/beat writers.

Seemed like every day he was getting questions on the preseason lineup and he seemed agitated answering to every detail and gave the "you'll see our lineup the last 2 preseason games" which didn't happen.

Then answering the questions regarding who will be Captain. "We will have a Captain starting night" which didn't happen.

Then he was able to put smoke over Kravtsov not with the team for the team building trip. Perhaps he made up his mind before that last preseason game.

 

[clmetsfan]

He is objectively better than several players who made it over him lol, I get people disagree with his attitude but I don’t think very many fans truly would’ve sent him down in favor of the guys we kept.

That's not what objectively means.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Kravtsov was never going to be a popular guy in the locker room, and has some social issues. He doesn't like fan interaction, he's pretty arrogant. But that was all fine as long as he could show what he has done on the ice.

This garbage situation was created by Drury, but Kravtsov f***ed it up to the point of no return. I can't even defend it if I wanted to. This wasn't a situation where team and player disagreed about medical treatment like with Lias. No, Kravtsov refusing to report to Hartford the day he is demoted is just bad.

How was it created by Drury?

Is finding out what kind of player you have by testing his meddle considered a bad thing?

This is the NHL. We are trying to build a winner here. Arrogant is the right word.

Agreed - his response is ridiculous - and more disturbingly - predictable.

Just my two cents.

 

[mas0764]

He's immature, but he's ridiculously talented. Terrible asset management by Drury. You trade this kid early or you play him on the big club. Losing a 1st line upside talent because you want to play Gauthier or Hunt on opening night is pathetic. Vitali earned it with his play last year and his play in preseason.

Agreed. Managing assets is more important to this franchise in the middle of a rebuild than squeezing out every win.

But here we go again with the "win now," mandate.

Winning now and overpaying to do so means winning a little now and missing out on winning big later.

 

[Blais to Win]

You're entirely right, but still f*ck this organisation for drafting two of those in the top 10. There's something structurally wrong.

Literally everyone involved has been fired already.

 

[bl02]

One would think the richest or second richest nhl organization would do their homework on the attitudes of some of these kids? I know they are only 17/18 year olds but the entitlement is crazy right now

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

My first impressions on Gallant in his mannerisms and body language during press conferences is he doesn't like interacting with the media/beat writers.

Seemed like every day he was getting questions on the preseason lineup and he seemed agitated answering to every detail and gave the "you'll see our lineup the last 2 preseason games" which didn't happen.

Then answering the questions regarding who will be Captain. "We will have a Captain starting night" which didn't happen.

Then he was able to put smoke over Kravtsov not with the team for the team building trip. Perhaps he made up his mind before that last preseason game.

I see your point but ultimately the group that goes up to RI for a TEAM bonding trip is not up to the coach.